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Post by Warrior Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:20 am

When i hear it on radio this morning i was quite surprised... our first victory vs USA since 30 years can you *bleeping* believe :facepalm:

Very lucky to play in CONCACAF where all nations except Mexico have mediocre teams that are built only on strength and running. In the end Gold Cup and Nations League have no importance, exhibition games from european NTs are more interesting, what really matters are the 3½ spots for World Cup 2022. You will qualify and we won't.

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Post by McLewis Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:36 pm

@Clutch wrote:I honestly think that Americans just dont understand the sport. They treat it like basketball or football when it comes to evaluations or it's just super political and the good players slip through. I played at a very competitive level growing up and they're are some really good players I've came across, I dont know what happened to them though. Most of those players were foreign also tbf


Yup, there are stories like this all over. Had these kids lived in Europe, South America or even Mexico, they would've had a much better chance of getting discovered and that talent being nurtured to higher levels of the game. Would they have ultimately made it? Some would've, others wouldn't have. Either way, they would've had a much better chance than they do here.

And that's because, for some mystifying reason, soccer is still seen as a sport of the affluent and suburban where everywhere else, it's the sport of the poor. That's American capitalism for you though. We can monetize literally anything, even a sport that requires essentially nothing more than a ball at your feet. The lack of access or path to progress gated by significant costs in the youth game was a major topic in the run up to the USSF elections. Everyone knows there's a problem, there just isn't much will to change things to solve it. USSF are raking in far too much money with the current model and if they can keep polishing the turd that is our Men's program to gaslight people into thinking it's not as shitty as it actually is, they'll do that as long as they can get away with it.

Only way to change things is stop watching this awful team, both on TV and in person. I have 0 incentive to watch them as of now so this will be easy. I'll spend my money and TV time watching the Women's and youth teams instead.
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Post by McLewis Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:14 pm

Also, it should be noted that Tata Martino, Oscar Pareja and Julen Lopetegui all expressed interest in the USMNT job before Berhalter got the job.

The reason why Lopetegui and Martino didn't even get an interview? Their English wasn't good enough.

The absolute fucking state of this federation Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:31 pm

Martino was coaching a MLS team wasn't he? Kansas City? Atlanta? Dallas? (Remember it was something with lots of A's lol) Apparently the language barrier wasn't that big of a problem there.
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Post by McLewis Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:38 pm

Not only did he coach Atlanta, he won an MLS cup with them. Language was absolutely not a barrier then and Atlanta reaped the dividends. It paints the USSF in an even worse light.

And now he's coaching Mexico, who destroyed us in our last meeting.

Deserved karma imo.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:44 am

@McLewis wrote:Also, it should be noted that Tata Martino, Oscar Pareja and Julen Lopetegui all expressed interest in the USMNT job before Berhalter got the job.

The reason why Lopetegui and Martino didn't even get an interview? Their English wasn't good enough.

The absolute fucking state of this federation Laughing


Imagine rejecting a coach with Barcelona and Argentina in their CV Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post by McLewis Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:33 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@McLewis wrote:Also, it should be noted that Tata Martino, Oscar Pareja and Julen Lopetegui all expressed interest in the USMNT job before Berhalter got the job.

The reason why Lopetegui and Martino didn't even get an interview? Their English wasn't good enough.

The absolute fucking state of this federation Laughing


Imagine rejecting a coach with Barcelona and Argentina in their CV Laughing Laughing Laughing


I laugh at this delusion in order not to rage. The arrogance of the USSF knows absolutely no limits.
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Post by McLewis Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:26 am

CONCACAF Nations League Final is an instant classic in USA - Mexico lore.

It has had absolutely everything expected of rivalry of this magnitude.

I doubted this USA team and they've proved me wrong. Gutsy win against a very experienced Mexican side. Lost their starting keeper and his backup (Club Brugge's Ethan Horvath) has come in to make several big stops and save a penalty deep into extra time.

Weston McKennie has been absolute lion. Pulisic wore the armband, but this man is the captain. Heart and soul of this team.

Gio Reyna is as much a generational talent as Pulisic. Scored and assisted in the biggest game of his international career....at 18.....oh and he got hit in the dome by a missile from the Mexico fans....that's his proper introduction into this derby.
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Post by CBarca Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:33 pm

What is the point of VAR sometimes lol

They used VAR for both pens. The ref initially didn't call either pen, which was the correct call. Then he went over to the monitor and changed both of his decisions to a penalty, which was the wrong decision.

They canceled each other out, at least. Not to mention the use of VAR to get the Mexico goal ruled out for offside, which was the correct decision.

It's just weird to me how the ref managed to incorrectly change his calls twice upon further viewing Laughing

Anyway, the match was a classic and it's good to see the US go home with a win in a big cup final against Mexico.
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Post by McLewis Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:43 pm

Yeah that ref was a mess. The occasion was too big for him.

I still don't think Berhalter is the right coach and would've much preferred Tata with this group, but Gregg did make the right subs deep into the game. They were all pretty much game changers. I can't forgive him for taking off Dest and putting Ream at LB against such a speedy player like Lainez, who dutifully skinned him several times before Acosta got moved into that position.

This group has a lot of character though. I was not expecting that type of fight back.
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Post by Lord Awesome Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:30 pm

You could clearly see USA's lack of experience at the back. They are clearly dont have enough chemestry yet and it was the main problem to fix. As the game went on it got better but the transition from the defense to attack was just disorganized and would go awry. USA got through with grit alone at the back. The front was at least talented enough to breack through Alvarez Araujo and Moreno. All in all tho this game was the greastest Ive seen yet and USA finally after 14 manage to defeat Mex in a final
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