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Most completely decorated player/manager?
So who has exelled most completely as player and manager?
6 different club competitions
National
National Leagues
National Cups, playoff
National "Supercups", 1-2 games
Continental/World
European Cup/ Uefa Champions League/ Copa Libertadores
Uefa Super Cup/ European Super Cup/ Recopa Sudamericana
Fifa Club World Cup/ Intercontinental Cup
4 different national competitions
FIFA Confederations Cup
Olympics
European Football Championship/ Copa America
World Cup
So the max would be all 20, 10 as both player and manager. Who comes closest to this?
EDIT: only highest level competitions, no European League etc. And one competition only counts once, no matter how many times you have won it.
EDIT2:
Player/Manager Guardiola 13/20, Ancelotti 12/20
Player Henry/Cafu/Carlos/others 9/10
Manager Del Bosque 7/10
6 different club competitions
National
National Leagues
National Cups, playoff
National "Supercups", 1-2 games
Continental/World
European Cup/ Uefa Champions League/ Copa Libertadores
Uefa Super Cup/ European Super Cup/ Recopa Sudamericana
Fifa Club World Cup/ Intercontinental Cup
4 different national competitions
FIFA Confederations Cup
Olympics
European Football Championship/ Copa America
World Cup
So the max would be all 20, 10 as both player and manager. Who comes closest to this?
EDIT: only highest level competitions, no European League etc. And one competition only counts once, no matter how many times you have won it.
EDIT2:
Player/Manager Guardiola 13/20, Ancelotti 12/20
Player Henry/Cafu/Carlos/others 9/10
Manager Del Bosque 7/10
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Guardiola has 7 as player, and 6 as manager, so that's 13.
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Mourinho probs.
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Maldini has 24 but I'm confsed as to wether he counts or not.
Is it player and/or manager?
Is it player and/or manager?
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Le Samourai wrote:Maldini has 24 but I'm confsed as to wether he counts or not.
Is it player and/or manager?
It's both. Don't think Mou won anything as a player but he played and now he's a manager.
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Bob Paisley's
Competitions won as player:
First Division Champions: 1946–47(Highest divison BTW)
Competitions won as manager:
1974/75 Charity Shield : First prize of his managerial career
1975/76 League Championship (Division 1) : First major trophy of his managerial career
1975/76 UEFA Cup : His first European trophy and Liverpool's second
1976/77 Charity Shield : His second Charity Shield
1976/77 League Championship (Division 1) : His second league title
1976/77 European Cup : Liverpool's first European Cup - club would have ended season as treble winners had it not been for an FA Cup final defeat to Manchester United
1977/78 Charity Shield Shared : Shared with Manchester United, who beat them in the previous season's cup final
1977/78 European Super Cup : Liverpool's first Super Cup
1977/78 European Cup : Retained European Cup from the previous year
1978/79 League Championship (Division 1) : Third title in four years
1979/80 Charity Shield : His fourth charity shield
1979/80 League Championship (Division 1) : Fourth title in five years
1980/81 League Cup : Liverpool's first ever League Cup
1980/81 European Cup : European Cup number 3
1981/82 League Cup : Retained League Cup
1981/82 League Championship (Division 1) : Fifth title in seven years
1982/83 Charity Shield : Charity shield number 5
1982/83 League Cup : Third successive League Cup
1982/83 League Championship (Division 1) : 19th and final managerial prize
Competitions won as player:
First Division Champions: 1946–47(Highest divison BTW)
Competitions won as manager:
1974/75 Charity Shield : First prize of his managerial career
1975/76 League Championship (Division 1) : First major trophy of his managerial career
1975/76 UEFA Cup : His first European trophy and Liverpool's second
1976/77 Charity Shield : His second Charity Shield
1976/77 League Championship (Division 1) : His second league title
1976/77 European Cup : Liverpool's first European Cup - club would have ended season as treble winners had it not been for an FA Cup final defeat to Manchester United
1977/78 Charity Shield Shared : Shared with Manchester United, who beat them in the previous season's cup final
1977/78 European Super Cup : Liverpool's first Super Cup
1977/78 European Cup : Retained European Cup from the previous year
1978/79 League Championship (Division 1) : Third title in four years
1979/80 Charity Shield : His fourth charity shield
1979/80 League Championship (Division 1) : Fourth title in five years
1980/81 League Cup : Liverpool's first ever League Cup
1980/81 European Cup : European Cup number 3
1981/82 League Cup : Retained League Cup
1981/82 League Championship (Division 1) : Fifth title in seven years
1982/83 Charity Shield : Charity shield number 5
1982/83 League Cup : Third successive League Cup
1982/83 League Championship (Division 1) : 19th and final managerial prize
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Lord Hispano wrote:Le Samourai wrote:Maldini has 24 but I'm confsed as to wether he counts or not.
Is it player and/or manager?
It's both. Don't think Mou won anything as a player but he played and now he's a manager.
Mou was never really a pro,he can actually be considered a amateur;
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Yeah meant that one different competition counts only once, no matter how many times you have won it. So there is about 6 different same level competitions in club level, and 4 in national level.
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Maldini only has 6, 6 as player, 0 as manager.
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
Fergie only ever won the 2nd division as a player
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Paisley 7, 2 as player, 5 as manager.
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Paisley 7, 2 as player, 5 as manager.
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Le Samourai wrote:Fergie only ever won the 2nd division as a player
But as a manager?
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Yeah only highest level competitions, no European League etc.
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Player honours
Milan
Italian League (2): 1961–62, 1967–68
Italian Cup (1): 1966–67
European Cup (2): 1963, 1969
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1967–68
Intercontinental Cup (1): 1969
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Managerial honours
Juventus
Italian League (6): 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1983–84, 1985–86
Italian Cup (2): 1978–79, 1982–83
European Cup (1): 1984–85
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1984
UEFA Cup (2): 1977, 1993
European Super Cup (1): 1984
Intercontinental Cup (1): 1985
Internazionale
Italian League (1): 1988–89
UEFA Cup (1): 1991
Bayern Munich
German League (1): 1996–97
German Cup (1): 1997–98
German League Cup (1): 1996–97
Benfica
Portuguese League (1): 2004–05
Red Bull Salzburg
Austrian League (1): 2006–07
Ireland
Nations Cup (1): 2011
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Player honours
Milan
Italian League (2): 1961–62, 1967–68
Italian Cup (1): 1966–67
European Cup (2): 1963, 1969
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1967–68
Intercontinental Cup (1): 1969
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Managerial honours
Juventus
Italian League (6): 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1983–84, 1985–86
Italian Cup (2): 1978–79, 1982–83
European Cup (1): 1984–85
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1984
UEFA Cup (2): 1977, 1993
European Super Cup (1): 1984
Intercontinental Cup (1): 1985
Internazionale
Italian League (1): 1988–89
UEFA Cup (1): 1991
Bayern Munich
German League (1): 1996–97
German Cup (1): 1997–98
German League Cup (1): 1996–97
Benfica
Portuguese League (1): 2004–05
Red Bull Salzburg
Austrian League (1): 2006–07
Ireland
Nations Cup (1): 2011
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Re: Most completely decorated player/manager?
I think he has like 29 as a manager but I doubt that it's spread across more than 10 competitions.
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jiopsi wrote:no European League etc.
I'm out then.
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Cruyff 11, 5 as player, 6 as manager.
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Trapattoni 11, 5 as player, 6 as manager.
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Capello 7, 2 as player, 5 as manager.
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Henry has 9/10 as a player, only misses Olympics, so he has chance to come pretty decorated if he takes managing after his playing career.
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raul? zidane or casillas?
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