SS Lazio vs. AC Milan pre/post match discussion

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Post by Ganso Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:58 am

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btw mr silvio is trying to postpone the napoli match banana
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Post by Dante Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:59 pm

This is a vital game for the team. But with the winning mentality that we have and Ibra in great form , we can do this.
Lazio is at full strength and they will go for it , but we can take it.

Also , Robinhotomissasitterforthe14thtimethisseason Laughing
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Post by TonyDaBeast Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:26 pm

hahahahahahha im really hoping for a Milan win, kickstart the month of February on the right foot, but i heard the temperatures are atrocious in Rome :S lets hope the same!
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Post by shamr9pato Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:28 pm

muntari to score a hattrick of hattricks :coffee:
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Post by TonyDaBeast Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:32 pm

hes in the African Cup of Nations man Razz hope Ghana keeps winning like that he doesnt come right away lolllll
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Post by Ganso Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:19 pm

i have a bad feeling about this game,ibracadabra to pull the strings.I say 3-2 or 2-1 for us.
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Post by Patrick Bateman Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:34 pm

Destroy them !!
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Post by Forza Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:53 am

Nes-T33 wrote:i have a bad feeling about this game,ibracadabra to pull the strings.I say 3-2 or 2-1 for us.

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Post by TonyDaBeast Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:44 pm

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Post by Arquitecto Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:08 am

There comes a time for every team where you dominate possession, defend with balance and somehow have nothing to show for it. It is not unheard of and usually boils down to the opponent neutralizing the right areas of the pitch and limiting forward progress where they can. Lazio deserves all the credit in the World for this. Instead of using the back three from last week, that Milan shredded, they went with a more traditional back four and filled in the space between the midfield and defense where Milan’s attackers like to sit. This created extensive traffic and made it very difficult for Milan to combine short passes in and around the defenders. Well played by Reja, but more importantly well executed by Lazio. It wasn’t that Milan couldn’t create chances, as they did, but it was often overly complex with passes being longer than they needed to be or lower percentage then they should be. Why play a ball wide and over the top when a one two combination was present? Van Bommel and Ambro were guilty of this often, as was Mesbah, but even the strikers seemed to make smart runs but couldn’t find each other to feet to make that incisive break.

a backup formation is only a good idea in theory as it takes significant time to learn the existing formation and players get comfortable and become successful, shifting formations is not as simple as sending an extra man into attack, there are roles and responsibilities to be considered, and who does what. Milan employs zonal marking at the back, that is even more of a headache if you take a man out of zone who does a double zone, does everyone's zone expand? Lots to consider, it isn't simply a quick fix...

More alarming for me was the return of the lack of patience that we saw rear its ugly head often last season. Instead of waiting and possessing with the score level at zero, they rushed things, and that never works. This is a talented football who last night seemed completely incapable of reading what was presented to them and adapting. So while Allegri tried to adjust that his player’s didn’t respond. The turning point in this match was the substitutions, throwing on more attack minded players in Urby, Seedorf, and Lopez seemed to upset the balance but most importantly create space for Lazio through the middle and unlike Milan they didn’t dissapoint. The Hernanes goal was one thing, but the Rocchi goal was the nail in the coffin. Questionable subs and questionable performances means Milan got just what they deserved in this one, nothing.

At the end of the day you shouldn’t blame the ref, he doesn’t have the benefit of slow motion replay that we do. You shouldn’t blame Abbiati, Allegri, or the management for transfer deals that did or didn’t happen; all of this is foolish. In the end you blame the team, a team that is capable of scoring three goals and then just as easily they are foiled by a well-organized defense. The tried and true old adage of keeping it simple was lost on Milan in this match, instead they beat themselves. They didn’t adapt, they didn’t play the space presented, and they didn’t show their talent. For now Juve has both hands firmly on the wheel and in the driver’s seat for the Title, is the race over? No, despite what many of you say or believe, it is only just beginning. But if you want abandon ship, by all means, no one is stopping you.


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Post by Dante Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:02 pm

Arquitecto wrote:There comes a time for every team where you dominate possession, defend with balance and somehow have nothing to show for it. It is not unheard of and usually boils down to the opponent neutralizing the right areas of the pitch and limiting forward progress where they can. Lazio deserves all the credit in the World for this. Instead of using the back three from last week, that Milan shredded, they went with a more traditional back four and filled in the space between the midfield and defense where Milan’s attackers like to sit. This created extensive traffic and made it very difficult for Milan to combine short passes in and around the defenders. Well played by Reja, but more importantly well executed by Lazio. It wasn’t that Milan couldn’t create chances, as they did, but it was often overly complex with passes being longer than they needed to be or lower percentage then they should be. Why play a ball wide and over the top when a one two combination was present? Van Bommel and Ambro were guilty of this often, as was Mesbah, but even the strikers seemed to make smart runs but couldn’t find each other to feet to make that incisive break.

a backup formation is only a good idea in theory as it takes significant time to learn the existing formation and players get comfortable and become successful, shifting formations is not as simple as sending an extra man into attack, there are roles and responsibilities to be considered, and who does what. Milan employs zonal marking at the back, that is even more of a headache if you take a man out of zone who does a double zone, does everyone's zone expand? Lots to consider, it isn't simply a quick fix...

More alarming for me was the return of the lack of patience that we saw rear its ugly head often last season. Instead of waiting and possessing with the score level at zero, they rushed things, and that never works. This is a talented football who last night seemed completely incapable of reading what was presented to them and adapting. So while Allegri tried to adjust that his player’s didn’t respond. The turning point in this match was the substitutions, throwing on more attack minded players in Urby, Seedorf, and Lopez seemed to upset the balance but most importantly create space for Lazio through the middle and unlike Milan they didn’t dissapoint. The Hernanes goal was one thing, but the Rocchi goal was the nail in the coffin. Questionable subs and questionable performances means Milan got just what they deserved in this one, nothing.

At the end of the day you shouldn’t blame the ref, he doesn’t have the benefit of slow motion replay that we do. You shouldn’t blame Abbiati, Allegri, or the management for transfer deals that did or didn’t happen; all of this is foolish. In the end you blame the team, a team that is capable of scoring three goals and then just as easily they are foiled by a well-organized defense. The tried and true old adage of keeping it simple was lost on Milan in this match, instead they beat themselves. They didn’t adapt, they didn’t play the space presented, and they didn’t show their talent. For now Juve has both hands firmly on the wheel and in the driver’s seat for the Title, is the race over? No, despite what many of you say or believe, it is only just beginning. But if you want abandon ship, by all means, no one is stopping you.



Great post Arquitecto . Looking forward to your post on our defeat tomorrow

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no seriously , very well said.
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Post by TonyDaBeast Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:40 pm

great post man!!!! Smile
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