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Post by Ganso Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:06 pm

he will learn the anthem from his country by 2022...or not

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Post by billionmillion Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:10 pm

Ganso wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
Ganso wrote:myth?1 goal in 2 wcs 1 goal in 2 copa americas :facepalm:
5 assists in WC's and 5 in Copas, playmaker.
WC 8 apps 1 goal 2 assists
CA(11) 4 apps 0 goal 4 assists


Do you really want me to mention all the players who perform better for their NTs,because i can go all day long
mention...if that player performed as great as you think then there must be at least 1 video about that, post it and we can watch
3 minute video 2 minute contains replays in 1 minute we can see his goals which higuain's hat-trick was more impressive. i asked you put any compilation, because compilation shows us moments from many matches not 1 :facepalm:

and put a famous player's comilation not an avarage player's, because nobody marks an avarage player
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Post by la bestia negra Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:13 pm

jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:truth argentina will never win a major trophy in the next twenty years
How is it a truth when it hasn't even happened yet?

ill bump the thread after twenty years
I'll be bumping something else, hopefully.

what is it with you and bumping evreything around


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Post by Ganso Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:13 pm

I dont need to look for a yt video to say that other players perform better ffs
Messi is a NT flop and i think that most people who dont have messi inside their butt would agree with me,just deal with argentina/barca fans
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:15 pm

supra969 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:truth argentina will never win a major trophy in the next twenty years
How is it a truth when it hasn't even happened yet?

ill bump the thread after twenty years
I'll be bumping something else, hopefully.

what is it with you and bumping evreything around


Very Happy
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:17 pm

Ganso wrote:I dont need to look for a yt video to say that other players perform better ffs
Messi is a NT flop and i think that most people who dont have messi inside their butt would agree with me,just deal with argentina/barca fans
You're back from the dead? Did you get fine CPR? I predict great, and long life in this war with reasoning of your calibre.
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Post by la bestia negra Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:20 pm

jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:truth argentina will never win a major trophy in the next twenty years
How is it a truth when it hasn't even happened yet?

ill bump the thread after twenty years
I'll be bumping something else, hopefully.

what is it with you and bumping evreything around


Very Happy

truth to be told i was somehow somewhat biased


but argentina needs to stop depending on messi :coffee:
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:22 pm

supra969 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
supra969 wrote:truth argentina will never win a major trophy in the next twenty years
How is it a truth when it hasn't even happened yet?

ill bump the thread after twenty years
I'll be bumping something else, hopefully.

what is it with you and bumping evreything around


Very Happy

truth to be told i was somehow somewhat biased


but argentina needs to stop depending on messi :coffee:
Well that's true, no one man does the team.
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Post by billionmillion Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:23 pm

Ganso wrote:I dont need to look for a yt video to say that other players perform better ffs
just few minutes ago you posted a youtube video, how you dont need it?
its obvious to say "i dont need" when you can not find anything
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Post by michael1 Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:30 pm

Lol at the mtyh bit!!

Messies has flopped with argentina no 2 ways about it.

Will stay that way untill he can do what other greats have done and carry their national teams on there back and lead them to glory !!
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:31 pm

Dont you guys dare to mock Hunstman when he uses his youtube videos again
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:35 pm

michael1 wrote:
Will stay that way untill he can do what other greats have done and carry their national teams on there back and lead them to glory !!
Now that's a myth.
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Post by michael1 Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:47 pm

jiopsi wrote:
michael1 wrote:
Will stay that way untill he can do what other greats have done and carry their national teams on there back and lead them to glory !!
Now that's a myth.

Really ?

The so called greatest player of ALL time cant perform for his
Country let alone lead them to something.

For his country he is a flop, tell yourself watever u want but its true
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:49 pm

michael1 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
michael1 wrote:
Will stay that way untill he can do what other greats have done and carry their national teams on there back and lead them to glory !!
Now that's a myth.

Really ?

The so called greatest player of ALL time cant perform for his
Country let alone lead them to something.

For his country he is a flop, tell yourself watever u want but its true
Please tell me what average and unbalanced teams did Pele carry to the WC win? Or Cruyff? Or Di Stefano? Even Maradona's WC86 team wasn't as unbalanced as this Argentina.
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Post by Swanhends Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:03 pm

Its not that he cannot perform, its that he significantly and consistently underperforms

And thats fact, not myth :coffee:
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Post by michael1 Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:06 pm

jiopsi wrote:
michael1 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
michael1 wrote:
Will stay that way untill he can do what other greats have done and carry their national teams on there back and lead them to glory !!
Now that's a myth.

Really ?

The so called greatest player of ALL time cant perform for his
Country let alone lead them to something.

For his country he is a flop, tell yourself watever u want but its true
Please tell me what average and unbalanced teams did Pele carry to the WC win? Or Cruyff? Or Di Stefano? Even Maradona's WC86 team wasn't as unbalanced as this Argentina.

Ohh ok sorry and here i was thinking tht argentina has one of the strongest squads out there and messi still cant perform for argentina.

The point is those greats elevated those teams and came through for them when the team needed them hence them leading the team.

Has messi done that at all, no !!

Not sayin he wont ever do it but as it stands hes a national flop!!
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Post by Ganso Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:09 pm

i feel so bad for Messi having to perform with scrubs like aguero,higuain,di maria,zanetti,cambiasso,banega,mascherano etc.

lets blame his teammates and 100 coaches he had
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:15 pm

michael1 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
michael1 wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
michael1 wrote:
Will stay that way untill he can do what other greats have done and carry their national teams on there back and lead them to glory !!
Now that's a myth.

Really ?

The so called greatest player of ALL time cant perform for his
Country let alone lead them to something.

For his country he is a flop, tell yourself watever u want but its true
Please tell me what average and unbalanced teams did Pele carry to the WC win? Or Cruyff? Or Di Stefano? Even Maradona's WC86 team wasn't as unbalanced as this Argentina.

Ohh ok sorry and here i was thinking tht argentina has one of the strongest squads out there and messi still cant perform for argentina.

The point is those greats elevated those teams and came through for them when the team needed them hence them leading the team.

Has messi done that at all, no !!

Not sayin he wont ever do it but as it stands hes a national flop!!
Yes, they have great, probably best attack currently. But their defence is probably the worst. You can't win big games without adequate defence.

Argentina steamrolled the WC10 until against Germany, when you saw the quality difference with good and bad defences. I mean Demichelis, Burdisso and Heinze against Germany. That's probably the biggest mismatch since polish cavarly tried to run through German armored division in WW2.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:51 pm

I partly agree with jiopsi and billion million, he hasn't flopped but he actually has been preforming worse then barca. Even his dribbling/finishing is not as good. It's a mental thing
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Post by Babun Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:59 pm

I'll try to stay simple and logical. Who are the players he plays with?

Banega, Zanetti, Cambiasso, Pastore, Mascherano...
In attack, Aguero, Tevez, Milito, Di Maria, Higuain etc.

Not too shabby for a midfield or attack? eco smile England could only dream of such a lineup.

Assume Messi performs well for NT then he should be scoring a considerable amount of goals with those not so shabby guys but apparently, he doesn't eco smile

Assume, the coach sucks and doesn't know how to utilize him. Did he have only one coach over long periods of time? eco smile The answer is no!

Last but not least, if Argies' defence sucks and they can't win big tournaments it isn't Messi's fault but if they fail to score over and over again, he is at least partially a NT flop eco smile


Conclusion, Lionel Messi is still a NT flop ( may change in future) eco smile
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Post by daneq Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:34 pm

Meh, Messi needs Barca more than they need him. Massively overrated and it's exposed with his NT
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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:36 pm

I disagree dude, I don' think xavi and iniesta can gift you dribbling magically
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Post by TrezeGent Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:43 pm

Ganso wrote:I dont need to look for a yt video to say that other players perform better ffs
Messi is a NT flop and i think that most people who dont have messi inside their butt would agree with me,just deal with argentina/barca fans

That's one of the most stupid things you could say.

Dude, you're biased with Brasil as f uck.

You don't even make sense.
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Post by Die Borussen Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:12 pm

its not like something new ... messi depends on barcelona Twisted Evil

while playing for his national team i dont see much difference between him and ronaldo playing for portugal or sneider for Netherlands and etc.. (quality view )

while playing for barcelona he is the best by far cause barcelona makes the best out of him affraid


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Post by Albiceleste Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:14 pm

Messi best playmaker in NT football.

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Post by Catracho Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:20 pm

"Username: Lionel Messi" "Country: Argentinan Flag" "Makes comment: Messi best playmaker in NT Football."

my face when I try to take his post serious :lucas:

honestly though guise.. Messi is a flop. He has nothing to show for being the best player in the world on the International level.

Please respond
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