Is Newt Electable?

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/24/opinion/carville-begala-gingrich/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

I found this piece quite revealing

The guy who had an affair with his future 2nd wife while his 1st wife had cancer ...then asking her to divorce while she is having surgery...

Then having another affair with his current wife(3rd wife) who was 23 younger then him..asking his 2nd wife that they should have an "open marriage"

lol open marriage ? how's this guy a republican ?

zizzle wrote:lol open marriage ? how's this guy a republican ?

And he keeps showing off his Christian values like all Republicans
And then when asked how he can have affairs such as these, he says that he believes God has forgiven him :lol!:

On topic, no way is he electable. Obama will probably have a party if he finds out Newt is his opponent.

A man who cheated on two consecutive spouses while they had potentially terminal illnesses and asking one for an open marriage receives a massive showing of support from South Carolina, a dominantly Republican state. Republicans who oppose gay marriage as they believe in "protecting the sanctity of marriage."

+ The man's name is Newt ffs

MJGunner wrote:A man who cheated on two consecutive spouses while they had potentially terminal illnesses and asking one for an open marriage receives a massive showing of support from South Carolina, a dominantly Republican state. Republicans who oppose gay marriage as they believe in "protecting the sanctity of marriage."

+ The man's name is Newt ffs

This.

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looool. imo Republicans are throwing away their bid for a conservative president if he gets nominated. Ron Paul ftw.

MJGunner wrote:looool. imo Republicans are throwing away their bid for a conservative president if he gets nominated. Ron Paul ftw.

Ron Paul is one of the few candidates I like. I'm not sure on Newt but he's probably a better option than Romney. Mitt Romney sounds like a scumbag. Anyone who throws the family dog in a crate on top of their car for an 18 hour family vacation is a sicko.

Just by the way he talks, you can tell he's an absolute dick.

But his move in the CNN debate was pretty smart, and he's gaining momentum.

Ron Paul may seem like a good fellow but if you analyze his politics/history you'll learn just how batsh*t he is.

Senor Penguin wrote:Ron Paul may seem like a good fellow but if you analyze his politics/history you'll learn just how batsh*t he is.

As opposed to Mitt Romney? Or Newt? They're all crazy. RP seems less so than those 2.

Yeah, Ron Paul is easily the only Republican I'd like to see become prez. It's not gonna matter now though it's between Newt Romney and Santorum. All scumbags.

dmize wrote:

Senor Penguin wrote:Ron Paul may seem like a good fellow but if you analyze his politics/history you'll learn just how batsh*t he is.

As opposed to Mitt Romney? Or Newt? They're all crazy. RP seems less so than those 2.

It's hard to judge who's the craziest but one thing is for sure; the republican party is a train wreck.

MJGunner wrote:Yeah, Ron Paul is easily the only Republican I'd like to see become prez. It's not gonna matter now though it's between Newt Romney and Santorum. All scumbags.

I wouldn't like him to become president. He doesn't accept evolution, just like most of the crazy candidates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSW2-Ppfewk

This article highlights more of his nonsense:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/

If Ron Paul were to be elected as president I would be vehemently concerned.

Well I don't know how relevant that is to him becoming president but he's the least extreme of the Republicans when it comes to foreign policy but I still wouldn't want to see any one of them win. I want Obama to get re-elected, obviously presidents have more freedom in their second terms

What up with vote fixing scandal lately? They say Ron was robbed of vote and Romney/Santorum had paid people voting for them

MJGunner wrote:Well I don't know how relevant that is to him becoming president

Discrediting evolution is actually a positive to many voters, so you may just be right.

The educational system is already infiltrated by crazy Christians who vouch for the nonsense of creationism. I suppose with Ron Paul at the helm, the indoctrination at schools would only increase and the citizens of the U.S. would be in deeper sh*t than they already are. If successful, creationism would f*ck up many generations to come.

I agree on Paul, he is the only one that I actually like and makes a bit of sense.

Romney is one of the biggest flip floppers I've ever seen and is quite scummy imo.

Newt is a pig, simple as.

Santorom supporting colombia yesterday though still don't really like him too much though, I could see him being running partner with romney though.

Senor Penguin wrote:

MJGunner wrote:Well I don't know how relevant that is to him becoming president

Discrediting evolution is actually a positive to many voters, so you may just be right.

The educational system is already infiltrated by crazy Christians who vouch for the nonsense of creationism. I suppose with Ron Paul at the helm, the indoctrination at schools would only increase and the citizens of the U.S. would be in deeper sh*t than they already are. If successful, creationism would f*ck up many generations to come.

so how's this creationism bullshit gonna effect my math skills ?

Senor Penguin wrote:

MJGunner wrote:Yeah, Ron Paul is easily the only Republican I'd like to see become prez. It's not gonna matter now though it's between Newt Romney and Santorum. All scumbags.

I wouldn't like him to become president. He doesn't accept evolution, just like most of the crazy candidates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSW2-Ppfewk

This article highlights more of his nonsense:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/

If Ron Paul were to be elected as president I would be vehemently concerned.

Everything on that list sounds like prototypical Republican stuff, does it not? Not only that but it's poorly sourced. Half of the bottom bill links don't work and the ones that do, have nothing to do with the main bullet. And if that wasn't enough, most of it was proven false:

Code:


1. Ron Paul supports the Constitution which guarantees equal rights, and he supports the individual’s sovereignty over the State. Not only is the State the greatest violator of equal rights by far, but he’s opposed to that legislation precisely because it takes away liberties UNDER THE GUISE OF protecting minorities. Denying liberties is, in our system, the ultimate attack on minorities.
http://tinyurl.com/6ovr74d

2. Outright lie. What Ron Paul has said repeatedly is that the federal government has no authority in abortions whatsoever, and his voting record agrees. Ultimately I feel he thinks abortion is murder, but his message is that people should decide that locally.
http://tinyurl.com/6tr6deh

3. Very obviously reason why Ron Paul would be a savior for the working class. The minimum wage, for example, MANDATES UNEMPLOYMENT for precisely those who need it most by prohibiting you from working for less than the government allows. Social Security is a huge tax on the working class, an astronomically large future burden, and a Ponzi Scheme and a massive con and fleecing program. And so on. The author thinks socialism (mass government intervention) is good for the working class, Ron Paul (and economics) disagrees.
http://tinyurl.com/88fcqfs
http://tinyurl.com/7t638gb

4. He says Ron Paul’s tax plan is “unfair”, and proceeds to not say a single thing about Ron Paul’s tax plan. He says RP is opposed to certain tax credits, but doesn’t say WHY. Ron Paul is consistently opposed to legislation which is unconstitutional or which expands government. Ron Paul hopes to cut taxes by a trillion dollars in a single year. That’s more than the tax plans of all other candidates from both parties combined.
http://tinyurl.com/88j58p7

5. I don’t need to say anything about this. “Already strained”? By what?—that’s Ron Paul’s question. The author wrote very eloquently precisely how Ron Paul would like to remove the government’s stranglehold on our “already strained” economy.
http://tinyurl.com/6o2t2sl

6. The author believes the UN (a very strong move towards world government, and a thorough undermining of the Constitution) was a good thing. Socialists and communists alike have pushed this lie for a long time. Naturally, for sanity and liberty, Ron Paul strongly disagrees.
http://tinyurl.com/7pz9588

7. Again, Ron Paul supports rolling back government, this time in the area of marriage, and the socialist author can’t fathom why.
http://tinyurl.com/73lm9qo

8. “Ron Paul has an unnatural obsession with guns”. No, the US military and the Federal government have an unnatural obsession with guns. Naturally, the socialist author is scared of an armed, free populace, because armed, free people are scared of socialism.
http://tinyurl.com/87yzgff

9. Ron Paul would get the government out of the way of education, so that kids can actually learn and become valuable and grow mentally and socially instead of being indoctrinated and imprisoned during the most important years of their young life. This part is funny because nobody believes our governments indoctrination system (aka “education” system) is anything but a joke.
http://tinyurl.com/6lwfc9h
http://tinyurl.com/6tfjm5g

10. Another outright lie. In fact, it’s all the other candidates who use religious propaganda to get votes. Ron Paul votes the Constitution, and to shrink government or at least prevent its expansion, regardless of his religious views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTh3gxd19x0
http://tinyurl.com/7umqru2

World is watching you States, dont feck it up

dmize wrote:

Senor Penguin wrote:

MJGunner wrote:Yeah, Ron Paul is easily the only Republican I'd like to see become prez. It's not gonna matter now though it's between Newt Romney and Santorum. All scumbags.

I wouldn't like him to become president. He doesn't accept evolution, just like most of the crazy candidates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSW2-Ppfewk

This article highlights more of his nonsense:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/

If Ron Paul were to be elected as president I would be vehemently concerned.

Everything on that list sounds like prototypical Republican stuff, does it not? Not only that but it's poorly sourced. Half of the bottom bill links don't work and the ones that do, have nothing to do with the main bullet. And if that wasn't enough, most of it was proven false:

Code:


1. Ron Paul supports the Constitution which guarantees equal rights, and he supports the individual’s sovereignty over the State. Not only is the State the greatest violator of equal rights by far, but he’s opposed to that legislation precisely because it takes away liberties UNDER THE GUISE OF protecting minorities. Denying liberties is, in our system, the ultimate attack on minorities.
http://tinyurl.com/6ovr74d

2. Outright lie. What Ron Paul has said repeatedly is that the federal government has no authority in abortions whatsoever, and his voting record agrees. Ultimately I feel he thinks abortion is murder, but his message is that people should decide that locally.
http://tinyurl.com/6tr6deh

3. Very obviously reason why Ron Paul would be a savior for the working class. The minimum wage, for example, MANDATES UNEMPLOYMENT for precisely those who need it most by prohibiting you from working for less than the government allows. Social Security is a huge tax on the working class, an astronomically large future burden, and a Ponzi Scheme and a massive con and fleecing program. And so on. The author thinks socialism (mass government intervention) is good for the working class, Ron Paul (and economics) disagrees.
http://tinyurl.com/88fcqfs
http://tinyurl.com/7t638gb

4. He says Ron Paul’s tax plan is “unfair”, and proceeds to not say a single thing about Ron Paul’s tax plan. He says RP is opposed to certain tax credits, but doesn’t say WHY. Ron Paul is consistently opposed to legislation which is unconstitutional or which expands government. Ron Paul hopes to cut taxes by a trillion dollars in a single year. That’s more than the tax plans of all other candidates from both parties combined.
http://tinyurl.com/88j58p7

5. I don’t need to say anything about this. “Already strained”? By what?—that’s Ron Paul’s question. The author wrote very eloquently precisely how Ron Paul would like to remove the government’s stranglehold on our “already strained” economy.
http://tinyurl.com/6o2t2sl

6. The author believes the UN (a very strong move towards world government, and a thorough undermining of the Constitution) was a good thing. Socialists and communists alike have pushed this lie for a long time. Naturally, for sanity and liberty, Ron Paul strongly disagrees.
http://tinyurl.com/7pz9588

7. Again, Ron Paul supports rolling back government, this time in the area of marriage, and the socialist author can’t fathom why.
http://tinyurl.com/73lm9qo

8. “Ron Paul has an unnatural obsession with guns”. No, the US military and the Federal government have an unnatural obsession with guns. Naturally, the socialist author is scared of an armed, free populace, because armed, free people are scared of socialism.
http://tinyurl.com/87yzgff

9. Ron Paul would get the government out of the way of education, so that kids can actually learn and become valuable and grow mentally and socially instead of being indoctrinated and imprisoned during the most important years of their young life. This part is funny because nobody believes our governments indoctrination system (aka “education” system) is anything but a joke.
http://tinyurl.com/6lwfc9h
http://tinyurl.com/6tfjm5g

10. Another outright lie. In fact, it’s all the other candidates who use religious propaganda to get votes. Ron Paul votes the Constitution, and to shrink government or at least prevent its expansion, regardless of his religious views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTh3gxd19x0
http://tinyurl.com/7umqru2

Excuse me for taking the article at face value. I knew that it was biased but didn't know that it was as outdated and inaccurate as it appears to be.

zizzle wrote:so how's this creationism bullshit gonna effect my math skills ?

Creationism in itself doesn't really affect mathematical subjects in school. It "only" opposes the theory of evolution, which is regarded as fact by an overwhelming majority of scientists across the globe. Discrediting and denying this information to students of public schools would be disastrous. Anyone who cherishes the value of free and accurate information should oppose creationism heavily.

However, I can tell you that I've seen certain studies that suggest that math students at Catholic schools perform below-par compared to students of public schools.

Ron Paul stands for opposing social engineering of society through goverment Mr Penguin, this is why he said it is not a big deal and its a personal thing to him and not policy.

On Topic: Newt will not be elected, he is just trolling the GOP. Moon Colony? WTF now?

Romney will win nomination, Paul and Libertarians will get exposure and Obama will be re-elected. Yes, its that simple.

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
Romney will win nomination, Paul and Libertarians will get exposure and Obama will be re-elected. Yes, its that simple.

Yep, that's how I see it happening as well.