Re: ronaldo is a selfish Campeon

by jibers Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:36 am

Been saying this for a long time. He does his job regularly tbh, but as I have said and multiple ppl have said, when he doesn't score he does sod all

by Albiceleste Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:36 am

ragbirjosh wrote:
Quote: Originally Posted by ragbirjosh None of them. Maria relies on his speed a lot, 5 years maybe then he will be replaced ( we are talking about Madrid), but if we are sensible we will move him because he has excellent traditional winger skillset and a very good final ball. Benzema would always suffer with CR7 on the team. If CR7 wasn't here, he would last 7 years. Of course, Benz is a better player than Di Maria at the moment. So you assume as long as cr7 is here he will always be the focal point. i see it 2 ...

I wish I could recover the rest of this post it was from the old forums......for those of you who remember it from this thread it basically said that the team would be built around Benz, that Ronaldo was destroying Real madrid's team play.......and that if he was sold in a couple years we would vastly improve,and that I think a Di maria , benz , higuain attack is better.

http://boardreader.com/thread/Im_heartbroken_6i0wpXwpt.html?o=0

I got a bit of hate....not too much because the Real Madrid section is rational and they saw where I was coming from.

Now we've turned a 180.....apparently there are Bigger Benz fans than me out there and bigger Ronaldo haters.This I didn't think possible.

Overall Ragbirjosh = Prophet GTFO Muhammed ( just kidding people don't overreact. I defended you guys today in another thread)

Also Me> Xavi.

So what do you want? Recognition? An award?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:38 am

Khaled you serious? 8 CR7 goals from open play?

WTF maybe the Madrid fans are not completely nuts......

Thats very poor.

by Le Samourai Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:43 am

No I just want people to be fair to the guy and not like all of a sudden he's gone from being the most influential decisive player in the world to utter garbage.

His game has suffered just slightly but not enough to cause a total u turn in people's perception of him.....he was always the player that he is......at least since he came to Real Madrid.......it seems like all of a sudden we're expecting too much from someone who proved to be a very one dimesional player from day 1.

I have actually tweaked my opinion slightly in favor of Ronaldo since then.....I think with the right mentality he could be a huge asset to the team as a CF but if we continue to run the play through him we will always suffer for it.

He really hasn't gone far enough downhill for some of the stuff being posted.

@LM Haters Gonna Hate. banana

by Omniscient Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:44 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Khaled you serious? 8 CR7 goals from open play?

WTF maybe the Madrid fans are not completely nuts......

Thats very poor.

Ronaldo's goals are like 30% penalties, 30% sloppy set-piece defending, and 30% tap-ins. He scores 3-4 free kicks a season after 56968983 attempts.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:52 am

I use to think you needed Ronaldo's goals to bulldoze through the weaker teams because thats what he is "flat track bully"

But quite frankly i dont see why Benzema or Higuian cant do that if he has scored that small of a total from open play....

I used to think it was insane to even think about dropping him and you were just knee jerking after his poor Clasico display.

But now iam seeing why you want the side to be built around the likes of Benzema etc etc.

by Le Samourai Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:57 am

Just TO BE CLEAR......me wanting the side to be built around Benzema is not a knock on Ronaldo but a compliment to Benzema.

His overall qualities are those that a side would benifit from being built around.

Ronaldo though, I give many thanks to.......because he has absorbed alot of the pressure that Karim would be burdened with and has allowed him a natural development to the point where he seems ready to take on added responsibility.He wass really fragile at one point in time.

by Gil Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:58 am

So Ronaldo isn't actually any good now? Laughing

by baresi Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:59 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:I use to think you needed Ronaldo's goals to bulldoze through the weaker teams because thats what he is "flat track bully"

But quite frankly i dont see why Benzema or Higuian cant do that if he has scored that small of a total from open play....

I used to think it was insane to even think about dropping him and you were just knee jerking after his poor Clasico display.

But now iam seeing why you want the side to be built around the likes of Benzema etc etc.

I think u mis read the number its 18 goals from open play.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:05 am

Never said that Gil, just questioning whether Madrid really need him or not.....

Oh is it 18? i might have to take it back then Laughing

by Gil Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:07 am

Madrid were the ones who turned him into a poacher. They only have themselves to blame.

by ÖMARz Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:14 am

Gil wrote:Madrid were the ones who turned him into a poacher. They only have themselves to blame.

please elaborate.

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:15 am

Gil wrote:Madrid were the ones who turned him into a poacher. They only have themselves to blame.

please elaborate :brickwall:

by Le Samourai Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:15 am

When you give a person a free role you really can't take the blame for them changing their game.It's evident that Ronaldo himself changed his game because he wanted to score more goals don't put that on us.

by chad4401 Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:55 am

as i said ron needs to go back to the basics and rebuild instead of worrying about headlines

by Sushi Master Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:02 am

ragbirjosh wrote:When you give a person a free role you really can't take the blame for them changing their game.It's evident that Ronaldo himself changed his game because he wanted to score more goals don't put that on us.

The free role isn't "you have the liberty to do whatever you want", it's more like "you have the liberty to do whatever you want if it ultimately helps the team out".

I think Gil was talking about his ManU days when he was far, far more collective and if he were ever to try those impossible shots while having a team mate in open space, Ferguson would have ripped him a new one.

by kiranr Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:19 am

I agree Sushi. I think this is another case of Madrid ruining a perfectly good talent like many others before.

by ÖMARz Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:30 am

kiranr wrote:
I agree Sushi. I think this is another case of Madrid ruining a perfectly good talent like many others before.

who let you out of the mental hospital?

by Highburied Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:51 am

ÖMARz wrote:
kiranr wrote:
I agree Sushi. I think this is another case of Madrid ruining a perfectly good talent like many others before.

who let you out of the mental hospital?

Apparently, the hospital is full of madristas and they tranfered him to goallegacy where he can share one thing or two.

by FennecFox7 Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:42 am

kiranr wrote:
I agree Sushi. I think this is another case of Madrid ruining a perfectly good talent like many others before.

Just no.. no...

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:54 am

Real Madrid: where careers go to die Sad

In all seriousness he is by far the best player in Madrid and his piss poor attitude don't do enough damage to actually change that. He's a fantastic player any team in the world would be lucky to have

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:56 am

^^This season he hasnt been our best player dude

by _LMG_10_ Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:01 am

Nick who do you think is the 2nd best player in the world?

by windkick Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:29 am

Omniscient wrote:I can wholeheartedly say that Alonso, Casillas, Benzema, Di Maria, Ozil, and Marcelo are more important to Real Madrid than Ronaldo.

6 players more important to a team than 1? No shit, do the math

by Khaled Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:31 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Never said that Gil, just questioning whether Madrid really need him or not.....

Oh is it 18? i might have to take it back then

its 17 from open play, 8penalties & 1 freekick.

Vs 17goals for Benzema from openplay, but with less minutes played [1613 vs 2270 minutes].

Benzema vs Barca this season: 3 matches, 2 goals, 2 assists.
C.Ronaldo vs Barca this season: 3matches, 1goals [not sure if he had a touch on benzema's shot or was it ramos], 0 assists.

by ÖMARz Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:33 am

windkick wrote:
Omniscient wrote:I can wholeheartedly say that Alonso, Casillas, Benzema, Di Maria, Ozil, and Marcelo are more important to Real Madrid than Ronaldo.

6 players more important to a team than 1? No shit, do the math

He means individually you stupid shit.

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