ronaldo is a selfish Campeon

+ for op, exactly what I was thinking.

glad you people are finally seeing the light, took you long enough...

I think I swore at Ronaldo more than anyone in chat, but it was directed at his selfishness. No one should ever doubt what he is capable of. When he goes on an incredible run of goals I am sure everyone will jump on his bandwagon again lol.

hey hey take it easy

he cant do his usual tap ins because there is nobody to give him a through ball...wait till DiMaria gets back and Ronaldo will imporve

btw agree with Izzy...some people change their opinion faar too quickly ffs..

we havent played great since the sevilla game...and ill be a lill biased here and say that coincidentally DiMaria got injured after that game

get him back and we can play our usual football and not rely on Kaka :rolleyes: when we need to create

izzy26 wrote:Considering half the section wanted him gone and considered Kun better than him.

I actually still like Kun over Benzema but that's only because of personal preference and nothing to do with club football.

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

Gil wrote:Madrid were the ones who turned him into a poacher. They only have themselves to blame.

please elaborate

He averaged 4.5 dribbles p/g in England. He averages just over 1 at Madrid.

Gil wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

Gil wrote:Madrid were the ones who turned him into a poacher. They only have themselves to blame.

please elaborate

He averaged 4.5 dribbles p/g in England. He averages just over 1 at Madrid.

are you serious? we told him to stop dribbling? how about teams defend him better in 1v1 in la liga? or does that crush your conception that la liga teams cant defend?

Ronaldo has grown, physically he has changed, and his touch is just not that special. he needs to run past people to dribble them, and teams just own him repeatedly. He only has himself to blame.

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:di maria and silva would not score as much as you want, you need balance, you need a wide forward, or you turn into Arsenal who cant do anything without RVP. Even Bayern is playing with Mueller and Gomez. Hazard is not a scorer either.

and do take your FM talk elsewhere lol, getting off topic

NOW people understand why i wanted Reus, i secretly wanted him as a replacement to CR lol, .

The fact is, that i am always 10 steps ahead of everyone .

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

Gil wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

Gil wrote:Madrid were the ones who turned him into a poacher. They only have themselves to blame.

please elaborate

He averaged 4.5 dribbles p/g in England. He averages just over 1 at Madrid.

are you serious? we told him to stop dribbling? how about teams defend him better in 1v1 in la liga? or does that crush your conception that la liga teams cant defend?

Ronaldo has grown, physically he has changed, and his touch is just not that special. he needs to run past people to dribble them, and teams just own him repeatedly. He only has himself to blame.

If you look at the footage of Ronaldo during his first 4/5 months under Pellegrini and the CR since Mourinho joined you'll see there's a major difference.



He no longer plays with his trademark flair, he can't beat a man anymore ( I mean Alves ffs) and he looks depressed every time he's wearing the Madrid shirt.

EDIT: How can you seriously claim the reason he doesn't/can't dribble anymore is due to La Liga having great defenders?

It's not La Liga nick remember his 1st season

He was dribbling left to right, just having fun owning people

But his body is built the wrong way. it's not as agile as it just to be imo. he also declined abit.

His dribbling in england worked mainly because of the end to end game in England which utilizes his speed and stamina to maximum..

He stopped dribbling due to his high turnover rate which is unacceptable in laliga not the other way around.

It still has nothing to do with Real Madrid ruining him. No one forced him to bulk up. Also he doesn't have the space to run into like he used to. He always used speed to go past players.

He wasnt dribbling people left and right...

@Gil, im surprised you are making that kind of argument. He is failing because he is not able to handle the kind of challenges and pressure he is under. He puts it all on himself, and want to prove the world something. He forgets how to play simple, and he gets owned.

Maybe you are taking a piss, but Ronaldo has always been a uber athlete, not the greatest technician. He always relied on his athleticism to beat people, his close control is not impressive, Joaquin is better at that ffs. He has gotten older, has added weight, and he just doesnt have that same spring he used to have.

I think The Franchise had this discussion with us in the past, La liga defenders are getting better at handling Ronaldo in one on one. They dont jump in and rush the challenge like you do in EPL, they are more patient, and they try to double team him while holding their lines.

ronaldo stopped dribbling for us mid 08, we were always against a wall of 11 players so he never had space to dribble. la liga defenders arent handling him better due to simple math... hes scoring a goal per freaking game.
i used to joke about bad defending in la liga since forlan, kanoute, even ronaldo started owning them ( He only scored 22 odd in his last urd season, 1 season in his utd career he scored over 25) but since cesc went to barca and is scoring like van nistlerooy and van basten combined, i dont see how any la liga fan has the balls to put down epl defending over la ligas.
cr7 takes it all on his own because he gets so many chances in spain. he knows if he misses 1, another is right around the corner... its as simple as that.
he hasnt got rooney, tevez, scholes, giggs in their prime to pass it to. it was obvious he would evolve into what he is now, thats why 80m was spent. ronaldo balances out messi goals.. unless you replace him with darren bent or sturridge. epl = guaranted la liga goals

or maybe RM is such an attacking juggernaut that they create a lot of chances?

Ronaldo is not scoring all by himself u know? It doesnt matter how bad you try to portray la liga defenses, RM is a much more potent attacking team that Utd ever was with giggs and co.

attacking what? you play with 2 sitting midfielders most of the time lol. didnt he score close to 50 percent of your goals last year?
if you think alonso, di maria equals giggs or scholes then good luck to you... or benzema and ozil being near the partnership of rooney and tevez...
if you think madrids are better... and i fear for your mental health if you do... then fine. but there'd be .01% in it

its ok throwing soundbites around but dont cry when they dont hold up.

dont cry when they dont hold up,in europa league

He scored that much because we set him in conditions to do so.

i never said we were a better team, i said we are offensively more potent, and im not going to argue about it.

Neither did i say that our players are better, but if you ignore individual qualities of each player because it makes it easy for you to argue, it's on you.

Ozil and Benzema dont have to be better than Rooney or Tevez to set him up, the way they and combine with each other make it so that they can get the best out of Ronaldo in a general sense. And no offense, but None of your former utd players had the eye for the assist Ozil had in his form last year. Does that make Ozil better in general? not necessarily. Same with Di Maria, say what you want about him, but the kid can play a final pass, the kid can assist. Again, doesnt mean that he is a better player than Giggs, but he is definitely up there when it comes to assisting people.

It's all about context, chemistry and skills of each players.

And for your information, only Alonso is sitting.

you mean 34 year old Giggs and Scholes are/were(then) better than 23 year Ozil and DiMaria

Higuain>>>>>Tevez....he cant even get into the NT ffs

how about when Henry came to Barca....quickly became a cancer to them

its not our fault that youre stupid enough not to now that Cesc grew up with 95% of those Barca

Silva is the best player in tha league ffs...says it all

heck yaya is one of the most attacking players...freakin yaya

gimme a break

trollolololol, why is the forum full of mediocre posters?

Gladiator wrote:trollolololol, why is the forum full of mediocre posters?

Damn man. No need for that.

Just put them on your ignore list.

cyberman wrote:ronaldo stopped dribbling for us mid 08, we were always against a wall of 11 players so he never had space to dribble. la liga defenders arent handling him better due to simple math... hes scoring a goal per freaking game.
i used to joke about bad defending in la liga since forlan, kanoute, even ronaldo started owning them ( He only scored 22 odd in his last urd season, 1 season in his utd career he scored over 25) but since cesc went to barca and is scoring like van nistlerooy and van basten combined, i dont see how any la liga fan has the balls to put down epl defending over la ligas.
cr7 takes it all on his own because he gets so many chances in spain. he knows if he misses 1, another is right around the corner... its as simple as that.
he hasnt got rooney, tevez, scholes, giggs in their prime to pass it to. it was obvious he would evolve into what he is now, thats why 80m was spent. ronaldo balances out messi goals.. unless you replace him with darren bent or sturridge. epl = guaranted la liga goals

Gladiator wrote:trollolololol, why is the forum full of mediocre posters?

And yourself aren't mediocre ?

Henry was a cancer to Barca........what..

El Pipita wrote:

Gladiator wrote:trollolololol, why is the forum full of mediocre posters?

And yourself aren't mediocre ?

No mate no. Put your avatar back to what it was.