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Post by jibers Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:55 am

Ferdidnand could definately replace pique. Ferdinand was more composed, again it's down to Guardiolas coaching. Hargreaves could have replaced busquets.

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Post by BeautifulGame Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:08 am

As a Liverpool fan i dont think Gerrard would get into this Barca team even in his prime because they play totally different way . He would be try to play through ball every time he gets it which wont work with Barca .

Similarly even Xavi in his Prime wouldnt have got into the Liverpool team 2 years ago ( Alonso - Masch - Gerrard ) simply because we play a totally different way .

Just because u are a great player doesnt mean u will walk into any team .
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Post by joksa Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:11 am

jibers wrote:youre here joksa! Very Happy

Yeah, I've been pretty busy lately, haven't had that much time to post. I'll try to catch up occasionally though Smile Good to see you too
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:13 pm

lol@ some posts here

Rooney could edge Pedro. Well, the Rooney of 2 years ago could. This Rooney is so inconsistent that, while on his better day is better than Pedro, he would not start.

Ferdinand a cut above Pique? He would not dominate the technical play nearly as much as Pique.

Lampard starting over Xaviesta because he scores goals? Ridiculous. At Barca, a midfielder's most important tasks is distribution, not scoring. In fact, you very rarely see Barca midfielders try to shoot at all.
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Post by cyberman Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:22 pm

Rooney and Rio would

Rio at 31 is probably faster than Pique is now, while Rooney can play wide coming in as good as anyone.
Unlike Villa, Rooney has a better engine and working hard, tracking back and pressing wouldnt affect him form wise.
Plus Xavi said last year that hes 1 of a few players whod genuinely improve this Barca side.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:27 pm

He's just getting one back over Thiago.

and Pique is so under-rated here.....

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Post by RedDevilForLife Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:29 pm

I don't think Rodwell meant those players could fit in Barca's system, he meant more there were Barca quality.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:29 pm

Rooney and Ferdinand would only. Frankie and Gerrard don't fit in.
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Post by Vibe Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:31 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Lampard starting over Xaviesta because he scores goals? Ridiculous. At Barca, a midfielder's most important tasks is distribution, not scoring. In fact, you very rarely see Barca midfielders try to shoot at all.

Nice,taking a dig at me...But it doesn't matter cause you proved my point.I never said they should start ahead of them,but that they are different players and that Xavi or Iniesta are not miles ahead of Gerrard or Lampard.

Similar calibre of players IMO.

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Post by cyberman Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:32 pm

Rooney inconsistent?
He had personal and professional problems with a chronic ankle injury for the first half of the season.
With everythin sorted hes had an amazing 2nd half of the season. I honestly dont understand that statement.
Rio is one of the most technical defenders there is. Hes all about reading runs and interceptions, the proof is h has 3 fouls in 3 years or something ridiculous.
There is no way that anyone can judge how good Pique is atm, hes protected by the midfield so much. Want proof? Freaking Mascherano looks as good as Beckenbaur back there for them.

Ive seen both of them first hand at Utd. and nobody say Pique has improved cause as soon as he stepped off that plane from Manchester hes basicly been playing like this.


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Post by Onyx Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:33 pm

I think only Rooney would maybe make it into their team. :coffee:

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Post by The Franchise Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:42 pm

Yeah cyber, not this again.

Players can improve...Pique now isnt Pique at Man Utd.

Dont agree we cant see how Pique really is, he has been challenged individually by players before (Cristiano a main one) and comes out on top.

edit: Mascherano only looked good against a team that plays ground balls and cant expose his main weakness, size (Arsenal), looked good against a team that didnt try and attack (Madrid) and finally against Man Utd where indeed he wasnt ever tested because Barca completely controlled the game.

Pique wins so many balls in the air, always contests them superbly. If Mascherano played in those games (Bilbao, Malaga, Espanyol as 3 examples) you would see the obvious difference.


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Post by Gil Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:45 pm

Put Lampard beside Xavi, behind Messi and in front of Busquets and I'm sure he'll cope just fine.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:46 pm

The Franchise wrote:Yeah cyber, not this again.

Players can improve...Pique now isnt Pique at Man Utd.

Dont agree we cant see how Pique really is, he has been challenged individually by players before (Cristiano a main one) and comes out on top.


Not really he destroyed Pique in the Portugal vs Spain Friendly and he never really comes in a one on one with Ronaldo in classicos.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:47 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Yeah cyber, not this again.

Players can improve...Pique now isnt Pique at Man Utd.

Dont agree we cant see how Pique really is, he has been challenged individually by players before (Cristiano a main one) and comes out on top.


Not really he destroyed Pique in the Portugal vs Spain Friendly and he never really comes in a one on one with Ronaldo in classicos.

Im sorry, I didnt know we was only counting this season.

Pique is well known to shut Cristiano down when they have faced 1 v 1.
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Post by B-Mac Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:56 pm

anyone who is saying Rooney is Inconsistent.....maybe you should of watched a United game this year and take your focus off the goal scoring lmao he is the heart of United attack, creates, scores, tracks back...LMAO inconsistent that's the funniest thing i've heard in here

Ronaldo is more inconsistent then Rooney...if he isn't scoring he does nothing to help and starts whining and frustrated and has the worst body language. Rooney becomes a playmaker if he isn't getting the chances or scoring and drops deeper to track back and collect the ball

Please actually watch him before you talk out of your ass
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Post by Ali Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:14 pm

Gerrard at prime is one of the best midfielders iv ever seen wtf ? Lampard it's debateable but Gerrard on form is the perfect midfielder.
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Post by Rafinha Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:09 pm

Simply Gerrard and Frank doesn't suit with Barca's play. They would have struggled with passing the ball along the ground for such a long period. Its simply their way and not the way of English football. They are good in what EPL requires and infact they are imo one of the greatest. Barca though would have benefited on free-kick.
Rio and Pique on par atm in my opinion...but I hope(guess) Pique will eventually prove better at the end of his career.He is still too young.
Rooney? Yeah a controlled temper of him would be useful at Nou Camp. Still he has chance though and we might see him in Nou camp in next season:)
Rodwell better avoid this type of comparison comment for his good. It opens doors for controversy.
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Post by Rafinha Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:16 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:anyone who is saying Rooney is Inconsistent.....maybe you should of watched a United game this year and take your focus off the goal scoring lmao he is the heart of United attack, creates, scores, tracks back...LMAO inconsistent that's the funniest thing i've heard in here

Ronaldo is more inconsistent then Rooney...if he isn't scoring he does nothing to help and starts whining and frustrated and has the worst body language. Rooney becomes a playmaker if he isn't getting the chances or scoring and drops deeper to track back and collect the ball

Please actually watch him before you talk out of your ass

Rooney got his form in last part of the season and he played like one of best in that part. But he was not good in first part and I think thats why people calling him inconsistent.
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Post by B-Mac Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:39 pm

he was injured an unfit, thats why we sent him to the USA...but i guess people don't pay attention much
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:19 pm

The Franchise wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Yeah cyber, not this again.

Players can improve...Pique now isnt Pique at Man Utd.

Dont agree we cant see how Pique really is, he has been challenged individually by players before (Cristiano a main one) and comes out on top.


Not really he destroyed Pique in the Portugal vs Spain Friendly and he never really comes in a one on one with Ronaldo in classicos.

Im sorry, I didnt know we was only counting this season.

Pique is well known to shut Cristiano down when they have faced 1 v 1.

I know you don't rate Cristiano that highly Razz . Surely, then you wouldn't use him as a measuring stick.
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Post by xabi Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:24 pm

rooney would go in. no doubt in my mind when hes playing the way he has . specially against chelsea. Immense, absoulte world class longpasses that he sprays. always moving, helps defense and finishes it off in the box. top 3 player in the world on form! and yes I think he has improved his play since last season. My Opinion.

EDIT: maybe top 5 after all since there is xavi and iniesta


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Post by Busby Babe Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:26 pm

xabi wrote:rooney would go in. no doubt in my mind when hes playing the way he has . specially against chelsea. Immense, absoulte worldclass longpasses that he sprays. always moving, helps defense and finishes it off in the box. top 3 player in the world on form! and yes I think he has improved his play since last season. My Opinion.

Agreed. This season he has been better than the last.
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Post by free_cat Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:48 pm

Rooney at top form will most probably start for Barça, for Villa, not for Pedro.

Others... I don't think so. Perhaps Terry or Ferdinand over Puyol now that he is very often injured.
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Post by free_cat Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:54 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Yeah cyber, not this again.

Players can improve...Pique now isnt Pique at Man Utd.

Dont agree we cant see how Pique really is, he has been challenged individually by players before (Cristiano a main one) and comes out on top.


Not really he destroyed Pique in the Portugal vs Spain Friendly and he never really comes in a one on one with Ronaldo in classicos.

You guys are just hilarious.



And there were more clashes in other games, and Pique went on top.

Ah, and to Cyberman, Pique improved dramatically the first year at Barça. In the begining of the season, many called him "Culogordo" (Big ass, because he was slow and easily beaten). By the end of the same season he was knicknamed Piquenbauer.
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Post by Magricos Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:17 pm

lmao I hope Rodwell was misquoted no wonder they drew today.

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