If R9, MVB, Di Stefano were injury-free?

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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:13 pm

If that happened:

MVB, R9>Muller, Pele???

Di Stefano>Maradona???
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Post by Mamad Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:05 pm


If R9, MVB, Di Stefano were injury-free? Alfredo-300x222
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:10 pm

Whats MVB?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:19 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Whats MVB?

Mark Van Bommel i assume mighty fine player imo who yes would be better without injuries. :coffee:
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Post by PedroBR Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:19 pm

R9 would be the best ever
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Post by Busby Babe Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:27 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Whats MVB?

If R9, MVB, Di Stefano were injury-free? Marco+van+Basten
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Post by Sushi Master Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:29 pm

They'd be Him.


If R9, MVB, Di Stefano were injury-free? Face_podolski

Better question would be, what if Robben were injury free.
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:30 pm

ronaldo__9 wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:Whats MVB?

If R9, MVB, Di Stefano were injury-free? Marco+van+Basten

I didnt know he played for milan when he was young, thats nice of him to retun and finish off his career. 🐰
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Post by Busby Babe Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:32 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:

I didnt know he played for milan when he was young, thats nice of him to retun and finish off his career. 🐰

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Post by Yuri Yukuv Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:34 pm

Anyways I always thought van basten was overrated by some fans, along with bergkamp
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:41 pm

Sushi Master wrote:They'd be Him.


If R9, MVB, Di Stefano were injury-free? Face_podolski

Better question would be, what if Robben were injury free.

Nah mate the better question is what of Gascoigne if he was injury free :coffee:
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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:43 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Anyways I always thought van basten was overrated by some fans, along with bergkamp

Trolling or you really dont know?

Best striker of 80s. 3 Balon D Or's. Look at his stats at Ajax and Milan.


Here is my personal take at R9, MVB, Di Stefano:

The only reason Alfredo is underrated by fans is that he got injured during WCs. This is why Garrincha, Pele, Maradona rated higher.

MVB could ve gone on and on, winning more CLs under Capello.

R9 in 1997-1999 was phenomenal. Even Messi right now doesnt impress that much. R9 was God in a mediocore team, Messi is best among partners that are as good as him
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:47 pm

Hes cool, but never pele or maradona material by any stretch of imagination.

For di stefano it was more complicated, WWII, changing nationalities, coming from a rogue league as well as injury. its more like if di stefano was born 5 years later kind of question.

R9 I agree.
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Post by Kick Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:27 am

If Ronaldo kept fit until the day he retired (bit like Drogba) he would have overtaken Pele nad Maradonna.
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:31 am

It's easy to throw around ifs, but in the end fruitless

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Post by M99 Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:35 am

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Anyways I always thought van basten was overrated by some fans, along with bergkamp

This guy was top scorer in the Dutch League 4 times, was top scorer of the Serie A twice, won Balon D Or thrice won 2 European Cups on which he was the hero in and also was the hero of Euro 88 which Holland won. God knows how far would he go if he wasn't plagued by injuries. Only after Cruyff, he is Holland's greatest ever.
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Post by MacPhisto/MirrorBallMan Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:43 am

Add Del Piero to that list.

In 1997-98 he scored 32 goals for Juventus. He was going to be come one of the world's best players, already forcing Baggio out of the club. The next season, this happened...

Brings tears to my eyes, horrendous and serious knee injury. Look I'll be honest here, Del Piero has never fully recovered from this injury, and therefore never quite fulfilled the potential he had shown at a very young age. He lost most of his pace and a bit of his trickery. He never was the same player, and it's scary to ponder what could have been.
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Post by aford92 Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:45 pm

PedroBR wrote:R9 would be the best ever

IMO he still is the best ever and if he didn't get the injuries he would have been worshiped as our god, he would be world leader and there would be a giant gold staute of him in every city in the world!
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Post by pdolson Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:16 pm

ronaldo's done enough to be called the greatest striker ever

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Post by aford92 Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:39 pm

pdolson wrote:ronaldo's done enough to be called the greatest striker ever

THIS ^^
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Post by hrealmadrid Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:42 pm

Ronaldo in my opinion is the third greatest player of all time behind Maradona and Pele. However, had he not suffered through injury, there is no doubt in my mind he would have easily surpassed both of them.
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Post by billionmillion Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:00 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:R9 was God in a mediocore team
his national team which had rivaldo, ronaldinho, r.carlos, cafu, denilson, emerson
or his club that had zidane, beckham, r.carlos, raul, figo? which medicore team you mean? and what he won in medicore team and in the great team?

if R9 was injury free he would be same. he would get slow by time (as he was in r.madrid) and lose his speed. Injury only stopped him playing more games (maybe he would win some titles if he was injury free). if you think he lost his skills after injury then you are wrong. he lost his main weapon - speed - by time. he was fastest player, and after no speed=no ronaldo. and you know that when you get older you lose your speed right? of course 18 years old ronaldo is 2 times faster than 25 years old ronaldo, its nothing to do with injury
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Post by guest7 Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:15 pm

billionmillion wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:R9 was God in a mediocore team
his national team which had rivaldo, ronaldinho, r.carlos, cafu, denilson, emerson
or his club that had zidane, beckham, r.carlos, raul, figo? which medicore team you mean? and what he won in medicore team and in the great team?

if R9 was injury free he would be same. he would get slow by time (as he was in r.madrid) and lose his speed. Injury only stopped him playing more games (maybe he would win some titles if he was injury free). if you think he lost his skills after injury then you are wrong. he lost his main weapon - speed - by time. he was fastest player, and after no speed=no ronaldo. and you know that when you get older you lose your speed right? of course 18 years old ronaldo is 2 times faster than 25 years old ronaldo, its nothing to do with injury

R.M wasnt the best time of R9 career. He was best when he was playing for Inter and Barca, he never fully recovered when he went to R.M but even then managed to be the worlds best. It would be stupid to say that the injury didn't affect him becouse it did, like it does to every player once a big injury comes.
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