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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:34 pm

Good ol' Carlo made an entire Article out of a "my right back"-thread.
Read it 'ere: http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/11/29/2776856/the-greatest-european-championship-xi-of-all-time-featuring

Actually a pretty decent lineup. Wouldn't really disagree, which is surprising, because, you know, Carlo.

But it's interesting enough and there's a huge time to wait for the next international matches and I'm bored, so let's discuss it. Afro
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:36 pm

Gunter Netzer :bow:

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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:01 pm

Crimson wrote:Gunter Netzer :bow:

Greatest European XI of all times? AF72ABC75C7CC7F118E59416A942C3

Hail to the mothereffing king, baby! :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:03 pm

Turtles :bow:
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:09 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Crimson wrote:Gunter Netzer :bow:

Greatest European XI of all times? AF72ABC75C7CC7F118E59416A942C3

Hail to the mothereffing king, baby! :bow:

I absolutely love him as a player, I have a whole shelf of footage of his playing days Very Happy haha legend nuff said

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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:11 pm

He was also the greatest German football pundit ever, simply because he could never be pleased and almost never said anything nice about anyone ever. It was awesome.

I really miss him insulting his co-commentator.
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:15 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:He was also the greatest German football pundit ever, simply because he could never be pleased and almost never said anything nice about anyone ever. It was awesome.

I really miss him insulting his co-commentator.


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Post by Swanhends Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:17 pm

He picked two sweepers to play in a back 3 lol?
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:21 pm

"And those linesmen, pityful creatures that they are..." I love Netzer...
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:21 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:"And those linesmen, pityful creatures that they are..." I love Netzer...

lmfao such an awesome personality

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Post by ImAbackBone Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:24 pm

Crimson wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:
Crimson wrote:Gunter Netzer :bow:

Greatest European XI of all times? AF72ABC75C7CC7F118E59416A942C3

Hail to the mothereffing king, baby! :bow:

I absolutely love him as a player, I have a whole shelf of footage of his playing days Very Happy haha legend nuff said

Netzer back then, Reus now! Football-world is in deep debt to Borussia M.Gladbach. eco smile

:bow: Netzer :bow: Reus :bow:

Also my special buddy Beckenm├╝ller in this lineup... did not expect anything else!

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Post by rwo power Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:41 pm

Even though I would have loved to see Sepp Maier there, one can't find fault with Dino Zoff either. Another legendary keeper!
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Post by Sushi Master Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:49 pm

It's weird that Carlo included so many Germans.

Actually a very decent lineup, although Goal.com does much better with legends of old rather than current affairs.
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:49 pm

Also, let's talk about Netzer some more and how he could've played together with Overrat in today's systems.

4-1-4-1 I say! With Netzer and Overrat as a double CAM.
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:51 pm

Sushi Master wrote:It's weird that Carlo included so many Germans.

Actually a very decent lineup, although Goal.com does much better with legends of old rather than current affairs.

I found that weird as well, especially since Carlo has often been quite quick to disregard any or most achievements of ze Germans.

BTW I think they do better with legends of old, because they're actually knowledgable about football, and there's just less bias involved if there's a couple years in between, while with current legends in the making, national and club bias plays a bigger role.
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Post by Sushi Master Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:59 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:It's weird that Carlo included so many Germans.

Actually a very decent lineup, although Goal.com does much better with legends of old rather than current affairs.

I found that weird as well, especially since Carlo has often been quite quick to disregard any or most achievements of ze Germans.

BTW I think they do better with legends of old, because they're actually knowledgable about football, and there's just less bias involved if there's a couple years in between, while with current legends in the making, national and club bias plays a bigger role.
Yeah, I agree. They'd fit right at home in GL with the incredible knee jerk articles they make after some results.
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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:05 pm

Carlo only disregards achievements of the Bundesliga, he has long been fan of German NT and players.

I myself find the Cruyff to be more deserving of a spot over Zidane.

Also, a Van Baste, Muller front two would obliterate anything.

Would have appreciated if Carlo added a bench.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:14 pm

Did Carlo just pick more Germans than Italians in his piece? Suspect
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Post by Ganso Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:16 pm

i have to disagree with zidane here,i think there were better options
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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:16 pm

Yes, since this piece is entirely influenced by the Euro which Germany has been the most successful at.

You would have seen more parity and no Van Basten or Zidane if it have been the WC and Euro or the WC alone.

Regardless, Carlo's real bias is against English players whom he never rated.
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Post by juventus101 Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:30 pm

--Kahn--
--Gentile-- --Scirea-- --Beckenbauer-- --Maldini--
--Matthaus-- --Zidane--
--Platini-- --Baggio-- --Cruyff--
--Muller--
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Post by aunshi Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:44 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:Yes, since this piece is entirely influenced by the Euro which Germany has been the most successful at.

You would have seen more parity and no Van Basten or Zidane if it have been the WC and Euro or the WC alone.

Regardless, Carlo's real bias is against English players whom he never rated.

Saying that would any English players be close to featuring in this?

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Post by Zealous Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:44 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:Carlo only disregards achievements of the Bundesliga, he has long been fan of German NT and players.

I myself find the Cruyff to be more deserving of a spot over Zidane.

Also, a Van Baste, Muller front two would obliterate anything.

Would have appreciated if Carlo added a bench.

For all of Cruyff's talent he didn't really achieve much at the Euro's. In fact as far as International careers go Germany '74 was his only real great tournament.

As for the rest of the team it very good and hard to disagree with considering the criteria.

I would have liked to see Panenka for the lulz though. Also Amancio deserves a shout.

Here's the team

-----------------Zoff-----------------
------Kaiser----Sammer-----Maldini---
Van Moer-----Netzer--Zidane-- Dzajic
---------------Platini----------------
--------Van Basteb---Muller---------
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Post by ImAbackBone Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:51 pm

^^^^ this!

sad but true... a great player who shone only at one big tournament.

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Post by M99 Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:27 pm

That is actually a great list. Good to see Dzajic there. Very, very underrated player. One of the best wingers in history. Didi and Dzajic are arguably the best CM and best LW of all time, but no one puts them up with Maradona, Pele, Di Stefano, Cruyff, Beckenbauer etc. It's a shame.
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