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Post by alexjanosik Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:24 pm

The Madrid One wrote:
jibers wrote:
buddytaller wrote:I saw the Busquets video and wasn't overly impressed, he kept his his passes very short and safe, nothing spectacular, and that's been my point exactly.

He's not the most technically gifted of players and he knows it, so he tries to keep the ball for as little time as possible and limits himself to the most obvious of passes, when faced with a pressing opponents in the video, he tried to make the most of challenges instead of dribbling his way out of trouble or looking for the not so obvious pass. Had he been in white and not blaugrana on that day, I doubt he would have made any difference.

And again that video is not a great advertisement of his passing abilities, compare his passing videos to that of Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Ozil, Alonso, Seedorf etc. and you'll notice the difference between world class passers and not so world class passers.

On the Toure issue, it was a clear case of favouritism on Pep's part, Busquets was favoured not because he was better than Yaya, but because he was Catalan and a Barcelona youth product. That was why Yaya and Henry who were both instrumental in winning the first and only treble in Spanish football history were shipped out in favour of Busquets and Pedro.

What? Busuets is one of the most technically gifted payers in Europe and your opinion is just covered in RM hate and bias. Ozil? Now I know you are kidding. In terms of short passing Busquets is superior to everyone on that list except Xavi and Iniesta. Busquets creates space better than Alonso. Busquts job is to distribute the ball from the back and not play hollywood balls. He is defensively better than xabi.

Yaya was shipped out because he wanted to take the pay rise. Pep wanted him to stay and this was made public. Busquets was cjhosen over yaya for various reasons. One he was defensively more secure and followed Peps instructions to the letter. Yaya was known to sometimes burst forward and leave a gap in Barceona s MF and in 09 season they got awya with it becasue most teams were new to them and they werent hiit on the counter as hard. As the strategy of Barcelona became more dependent on ball retention, Busquets was favoured. He keeps the ball better and is a better passer. The problem here is that people think that Toure is a DMF becasue he is big. The guy becae a defensie liability sometimes.

You mentioning Henry just sums up your point. Henry was playing poorly tha season and quite frakly, 09 was his only decent season at barcelona. Pedro offered the team the width it needed once Eto left and Messi moved central, and he played betetr than Henry. Bojan benched Ibra becasue Ibra wasn't performing as wel, ow he was shipped out becausehe wasn't performing. Shocking post all round.
Thumbs up :study: busquets does his job well, no reason to make excuses as to how hes not perfect because he cant dribble like iniesta or pass like alonso or xavi.

cant agree with red though.


We ae not talking about the Madrid midfield.
This is the Barca midfield,the toughest midfield in the history of the game to get into.
A midfield in which Cesc Fabregas rides the bench along with a certain youngster named Thiago.
And Busquets is an undisputed starter in that midfield.First he displaced Yaya and then he kpet out Masch from it.
He is technically better than any player at Madrid and an exceptional passer and ball retainer.One cant get into the current Barca midfield by being an average passer or technically poor.

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Post by Le Samourai Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:33 pm

alexjanosik wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:
jibers wrote:
buddytaller wrote:I saw the Busquets video and wasn't overly impressed, he kept his his passes very short and safe, nothing spectacular, and that's been my point exactly.

He's not the most technically gifted of players and he knows it, so he tries to keep the ball for as little time as possible and limits himself to the most obvious of passes, when faced with a pressing opponents in the video, he tried to make the most of challenges instead of dribbling his way out of trouble or looking for the not so obvious pass. Had he been in white and not blaugrana on that day, I doubt he would have made any difference.

And again that video is not a great advertisement of his passing abilities, compare his passing videos to that of Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Ozil, Alonso, Seedorf etc. and you'll notice the difference between world class passers and not so world class passers.

On the Toure issue, it was a clear case of favouritism on Pep's part, Busquets was favoured not because he was better than Yaya, but because he was Catalan and a Barcelona youth product. That was why Yaya and Henry who were both instrumental in winning the first and only treble in Spanish football history were shipped out in favour of Busquets and Pedro.

What? Busuets is one of the most technically gifted payers in Europe and your opinion is just covered in RM hate and bias. Ozil? Now I know you are kidding. In terms of short passing Busquets is superior to everyone on that list except Xavi and Iniesta. Busquets creates space better than Alonso. Busquts job is to distribute the ball from the back and not play hollywood balls. He is defensively better than xabi.

Yaya was shipped out because he wanted to take the pay rise. Pep wanted him to stay and this was made public. Busquets was cjhosen over yaya for various reasons. One he was defensively more secure and followed Peps instructions to the letter. Yaya was known to sometimes burst forward and leave a gap in Barceona s MF and in 09 season they got awya with it becasue most teams were new to them and they werent hiit on the counter as hard. As the strategy of Barcelona became more dependent on ball retention, Busquets was favoured. He keeps the ball better and is a better passer. The problem here is that people think that Toure is a DMF becasue he is big. The guy becae a defensie liability sometimes.

You mentioning Henry just sums up your point. Henry was playing poorly tha season and quite frakly, 09 was his only decent season at barcelona. Pedro offered the team the width it needed once Eto left and Messi moved central, and he played betetr than Henry. Bojan benched Ibra becasue Ibra wasn't performing as wel, ow he was shipped out becausehe wasn't performing. Shocking post all round.
Thumbs up :study: busquets does his job well, no reason to make excuses as to how hes not perfect because he cant dribble like iniesta or pass like alonso or xavi.

cant agree with red though.


We ae not talking about the Madrid midfield.
This is the Barca midfield,the toughest midfield in the history of the game to get into.
A midfield in which Cesc Fabregas rides the bench along with a certain youngster named Thiago.
And Busquets is an undisputed starter in that midfield.First he displaced Yaya and then he kpet out Masch from it.
He is technically better than any player at Madrid and an exceptional passer and ball retainer.One cant get into the current Barca midfield by being an average passer or technically poor.

No One WC player and one youngster on the bench dosen't constitute the toughest midfield in history to get into.

What do you mean by that? before I totally discredit it.......some people have different definitions for technical ability
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Post by alexjanosik Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:38 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:
jibers wrote:
buddytaller wrote:I saw the Busquets video and wasn't overly impressed, he kept his his passes very short and safe, nothing spectacular, and that's been my point exactly.

He's not the most technically gifted of players and he knows it, so he tries to keep the ball for as little time as possible and limits himself to the most obvious of passes, when faced with a pressing opponents in the video, he tried to make the most of challenges instead of dribbling his way out of trouble or looking for the not so obvious pass. Had he been in white and not blaugrana on that day, I doubt he would have made any difference.

And again that video is not a great advertisement of his passing abilities, compare his passing videos to that of Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Ozil, Alonso, Seedorf etc. and you'll notice the difference between world class passers and not so world class passers.

On the Toure issue, it was a clear case of favouritism on Pep's part, Busquets was favoured not because he was better than Yaya, but because he was Catalan and a Barcelona youth product. That was why Yaya and Henry who were both instrumental in winning the first and only treble in Spanish football history were shipped out in favour of Busquets and Pedro.

What? Busuets is one of the most technically gifted payers in Europe and your opinion is just covered in RM hate and bias. Ozil? Now I know you are kidding. In terms of short passing Busquets is superior to everyone on that list except Xavi and Iniesta. Busquets creates space better than Alonso. Busquts job is to distribute the ball from the back and not play hollywood balls. He is defensively better than xabi.

Yaya was shipped out because he wanted to take the pay rise. Pep wanted him to stay and this was made public. Busquets was cjhosen over yaya for various reasons. One he was defensively more secure and followed Peps instructions to the letter. Yaya was known to sometimes burst forward and leave a gap in Barceona s MF and in 09 season they got awya with it becasue most teams were new to them and they werent hiit on the counter as hard. As the strategy of Barcelona became more dependent on ball retention, Busquets was favoured. He keeps the ball better and is a better passer. The problem here is that people think that Toure is a DMF becasue he is big. The guy becae a defensie liability sometimes.

You mentioning Henry just sums up your point. Henry was playing poorly tha season and quite frakly, 09 was his only decent season at barcelona. Pedro offered the team the width it needed once Eto left and Messi moved central, and he played betetr than Henry. Bojan benched Ibra becasue Ibra wasn't performing as wel, ow he was shipped out becausehe wasn't performing. Shocking post all round.
Thumbs up :study: busquets does his job well, no reason to make excuses as to how hes not perfect because he cant dribble like iniesta or pass like alonso or xavi.

cant agree with red though.


We ae not talking about the Madrid midfield.
This is the Barca midfield,the toughest midfield in the history of the game to get into.
A midfield in which Cesc Fabregas rides the bench along with a certain youngster named Thiago.
And Busquets is an undisputed starter in that midfield.First he displaced Yaya and then he kpet out Masch from it.
He is technically better than any player at Madrid and an exceptional passer and ball retainer.One cant get into the current Barca midfield by being an average passer or technically poor.

No One WC player and one youngster on the bench dosen't constitute the toughest midfield in history to get into.

What do you mean by that? before I totally discredit it.......some people have different definitions for technical ability

Cesc Fabregas would walk into any other team on the planet.So would Mascherano (although arguable in his case).
And yet if we play our best team both remain on the bench.So does Thiago.
In my years of watching football I cant remember a time when 3 midfield players of the quality of Fabregas,Thiago and Masch ride the bench for a single team.
Feel free to correct me.

Second part,whats there to understand.Its self explanatory.

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Post by Jack Daniels Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:57 pm

@alex
We have a former Ballon D'or winner in our bench. Beat that! haha

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Post by Moffo Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:07 pm

Jack Daniels wrote:@alex
We have a former Ballon D'or winner in our bench. Beat that! haha

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Man united has a ballon d'or winner in their reserves!

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Post by jibers Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:23 pm

Moffo wrote:
Jack Daniels wrote:@alex
We have a former Ballon D'or winner in our bench. Beat that! haha

albino

Man united has a ballon d'or winner in their reserves!


looooooooooooooooooooo. That's a par JD, thats a par...!
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Post by Jack Daniels Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:23 pm

Moffo wrote:
Jack Daniels wrote:@alex
We have a former Ballon D'or winner in our bench. Beat that! haha

albino

Man united has a ballon d'or winner in their reserves!
How can i forget about Micheal freaking Owen!?

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