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Johan Cruyff racially abused Edgar Davids
Ajax supervisory board member Steven ten Have has confirmed that club icon Johan Cruyff has racially abused fellow commissioner Edgar Davids.
Davids revealed on Sunday afternoon that he had been the victim of racist comments during board meetings, but refused to mention any names.
"Sometimes people cross the line within the supervisory board. There have even been racist comments. I don't want to go into details, but it's not easy to hold this position," he explained.
Nevertheless, Studio Voetbal stressed later on Sunday that Cruyff was the one who insulted Davids.
"You are only on the supervisory board because you're black," Cruyff allegedly said, a statement that was later claimed to be true by Ten Have.
"Unfortunately, that statement is true. Edgar has been insulted and has received shocking treatment," Ten Have revealed.
Cruyff has had a troublesome relationship with the other four members of the supervisory board right from the start, but things spiralled out of control last week with the appointment of Louis van Gaal as the club's new CEO behind the legendary No.14's back.
CRUYFF RESPONDS
Johan Cruyff has strongly denied being a racist after allegations that he had made a discriminatory remark against Edgar Davids. Cruyff was accused of a racist remark against the former Holland midfielder at a meeting of Ajax's supervisory board, on which they both sit.
"My foundation now has some 120 football pitches laid out for children, a lot of them immigrants," Cruyff said of his work on behalf of disabled and underprivileged youngsters. "We live in a multicultural society. They discredit themselves with this. I have a broad back … It is really too much to respond."
Cruyff was speaking after Davids gave an interview on the Dutch television show Studio Voetbal on Sunday afternoon. He made claims of racism towards him but did not mention Cruyff.
Davids said: "Sometimes people cross the line within the supervisory board. There have even been racist comments. I don't want to go into details."
Subsequently, another Ajax supervisory board member, Steven ten Have, conducted a live interview with Studio Voetbal in which he pointed the finger at Cruyff. Ten Have said Cruyff's direct comment to Davids was: "You are only on the supervisory board because you're black." Ten Have added: "Edgar has been insulted and has received shocking treatment."
In a later interview Davids stressed he believed that Cruyff is not racist.
Ten Have did not specify at what meeting the alleged comment was made but claimed that every time the supervisory board convenes proceedings are recorded.
Ajax declined to comment on the affair. Cruyff, a former Barcelona manager, was expected to expand on the issue on Tuesday in his weekly column in the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf. That routinely appears on Monday but a weather delay which impeded Cruyff's return to his home in Catalonia on Sunday evening meant that his column this week was postponed for 24 hours.
Cruyff's position on the Ajax committee has been subject to scrutiny in any case, with speculation in Amsterdam suggesting that he could leave his post at a meeting next Monday. The appointment of Louis van Gaal as Ajax's chief executive, reportedly without Cruyff's knowledge, is thought to have caused a split.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/21/johan-cruyff-edgar-davids-race
Davids revealed on Sunday afternoon that he had been the victim of racist comments during board meetings, but refused to mention any names.
"Sometimes people cross the line within the supervisory board. There have even been racist comments. I don't want to go into details, but it's not easy to hold this position," he explained.
Nevertheless, Studio Voetbal stressed later on Sunday that Cruyff was the one who insulted Davids.
"You are only on the supervisory board because you're black," Cruyff allegedly said, a statement that was later claimed to be true by Ten Have.
"Unfortunately, that statement is true. Edgar has been insulted and has received shocking treatment," Ten Have revealed.
Cruyff has had a troublesome relationship with the other four members of the supervisory board right from the start, but things spiralled out of control last week with the appointment of Louis van Gaal as the club's new CEO behind the legendary No.14's back.
CRUYFF RESPONDS
Johan Cruyff has strongly denied being a racist after allegations that he had made a discriminatory remark against Edgar Davids. Cruyff was accused of a racist remark against the former Holland midfielder at a meeting of Ajax's supervisory board, on which they both sit.
"My foundation now has some 120 football pitches laid out for children, a lot of them immigrants," Cruyff said of his work on behalf of disabled and underprivileged youngsters. "We live in a multicultural society. They discredit themselves with this. I have a broad back … It is really too much to respond."
Cruyff was speaking after Davids gave an interview on the Dutch television show Studio Voetbal on Sunday afternoon. He made claims of racism towards him but did not mention Cruyff.
Davids said: "Sometimes people cross the line within the supervisory board. There have even been racist comments. I don't want to go into details."
Subsequently, another Ajax supervisory board member, Steven ten Have, conducted a live interview with Studio Voetbal in which he pointed the finger at Cruyff. Ten Have said Cruyff's direct comment to Davids was: "You are only on the supervisory board because you're black." Ten Have added: "Edgar has been insulted and has received shocking treatment."
In a later interview Davids stressed he believed that Cruyff is not racist.
Ten Have did not specify at what meeting the alleged comment was made but claimed that every time the supervisory board convenes proceedings are recorded.
Ajax declined to comment on the affair. Cruyff, a former Barcelona manager, was expected to expand on the issue on Tuesday in his weekly column in the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf. That routinely appears on Monday but a weather delay which impeded Cruyff's return to his home in Catalonia on Sunday evening meant that his column this week was postponed for 24 hours.
Cruyff's position on the Ajax committee has been subject to scrutiny in any case, with speculation in Amsterdam suggesting that he could leave his post at a meeting next Monday. The appointment of Louis van Gaal as Ajax's chief executive, reportedly without Cruyff's knowledge, is thought to have caused a split.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/21/johan-cruyff-edgar-davids-race
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That's pretty damning. Shame on Cruyff, he should know better.
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Racism is the new black....
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What a disgusting traitor disease.
Hope he gtfo from Ajax!
Hope he gtfo from Ajax!
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Technically Cruyff was accusing the Ajax board of reverse racism.
It's still a dumb thing to say. Old man Johan really needs to learn how to shut that big mouth of his.
It's still a dumb thing to say. Old man Johan really needs to learn how to shut that big mouth of his.
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Oh snap :dance:
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Davids
Could've run snitching to the press but he is humble and respectful
Could've run snitching to the press but he is humble and respectful
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Inb4 Barca DNA
Shameful, really for a such "wise" man like himself should know better.
Shameful, really for a such "wise" man like himself should know better.
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Just a side note to madrid fans: Try not to seem so excited next time
Spread your comments out over a period of hours or days....you'll be spent within 20 minutes at this pace
Spread your comments out over a period of hours or days....you'll be spent within 20 minutes at this pace
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Why not? I mean he got trashed 4-0 from Milan years ago..Any normal manager in the charge wouldnt let that thing to happen. But he did, so clearly not only is he wise but unique as well. lolZealous wrote:Cruyff is many things, wise is not one of them
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Madrid fans gloating off a racist remark
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Ugh... I mean, it is stupid what he said, and I condemn it...
But like, it is really not that big a deal intention wise by Cruyff.
It isn't really racist (indeed more about reverse racism) and Cruyff is one of the old generation....
Still, this whole Ajax freak show is starting to really bother me more and more.
I WANT MY CLUB BACK And I want Cruyff to stay!
But like, it is really not that big a deal intention wise by Cruyff.
It isn't really racist (indeed more about reverse racism) and Cruyff is one of the old generation....
Still, this whole Ajax freak show is starting to really bother me more and more.
I WANT MY CLUB BACK And I want Cruyff to stay!
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I'm black and I don't think he's racist. He might have a point. Cruyff has never been know for being politically correct. I don't think this is racism at all tbh.
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Tbf David's has Barca DNA aswell.........
Anyway......
Anyway......
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I hate him. he really needs to talk less.
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Guiltybystander wrote:Ugh... I mean, it is stupid what he said, and I condemn it...
But like, it is really not that big a deal intention wise by Cruyff.
It isn't really racist (indeed more about reverse racism) and Cruyff is one of the old generation....
Still, this whole Ajax freak show is starting to really bother me more and more.
I WANT MY CLUB BACK And I want Cruyff to stay!
Football has gone race crazy, hasn't it? Eboue, Suarez, Terry, Cruyff, Blatter...we have a "manita" of race scandals
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Anyone else feeling that racism-trigger is being pulled a little too easily nowadays?
"You're only in because you're black", I don't see the racism in that.
That's not saying that Davids is inferior somehow, that's saying he has been favoured because of a feature he has got (that is unrelated to the job).
"You're only in because you're black", I don't see the racism in that.
That's not saying that Davids is inferior somehow, that's saying he has been favoured because of a feature he has got (that is unrelated to the job).
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Exactly, he's accusing the Ajax board of reverse racism.
It's still a dumb thing to say because it implies that Davids didn't earn his place or isn't good at his job.
It's still a dumb thing to say because it implies that Davids didn't earn his place or isn't good at his job.
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Art Morte wrote:Anyone else feeling that racism-trigger is being pulled a little too easily nowadays?
"You're only in because you're black", I don't see the racism in that.
That's not saying that Davids is inferior somehow, that's saying he has been favoured because of a feature he has got (that is unrelated to the job).
Exactly. I'm fed up of this crap bh. Word is that it has been intentionally made public because Davids wants to get rid of Cruyff!
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Not racist at all. People need to stop claiming racism with everything, because when it actually happens its going to get ignored even further.
Anyway, I cant really condemn Cruyff. First of all, we dont if he said this or not.
Second, even if he did, that doesnt make him incorrect. We simply dont know.
Anyway, I cant really condemn Cruyff. First of all, we dont if he said this or not.
Second, even if he did, that doesnt make him incorrect. We simply dont know.
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Cruyff Fanboy..The Franchise wrote:Not racist at all. People need to stop claiming racism with everything, because when it actually happens its going to get ignored even further.
Anyway, I cant really condemn Cruyff. First of all, we dont if he said this or not.
Second, even if he did, that doesnt make him incorrect. We simply dont know.
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Yes lol
But not in this case. I was black before I was a Barca fan. Wont ever stand up for a Barca connection just because im a fan when we talking racism.
But not in this case. I was black before I was a Barca fan. Wont ever stand up for a Barca connection just because im a fan when we talking racism.
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