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Post by baresi Sun 20 Nov 2011, 19:25

So Chelsea had 5-6 good seasons in their history after spending millions and all of a sudden their fans get upset when they lose to the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U.

Can a discrete run of 6 successfull seasons do sooo much to their mentality. :coffee:
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Post by Sushi Master Sun 20 Nov 2011, 19:26

When you blow like half a billion, reach CL finals, win PLs for fun and that sort of stuff... yeah.

Just look at ManC's expectations, and they have absolutely ZERO fuzz apart from good form.
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Post by lenear1030 Sun 20 Nov 2011, 19:28

But in the midst of all their current troubles (losing to qpr, arsenal, etc.) this loss really exposed their defensive weaknesses. It will be a tough 1-2 get over for chelsea fans....


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Post by Lex Sun 20 Nov 2011, 19:30

lenear1030 wrote:But in the midst of all their current troubles (losing to qpr, arsenal, etc.) this loss really exposed their defensive weaknesses. It will be a tough 1-2 get over for chelsea fans....


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Post by chaval Sun 20 Nov 2011, 19:32

Well, much is expected out of a team like Chelsea
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Post by baresi Sun 20 Nov 2011, 19:39

chaval wrote:Well, much is expected out of a team like Chelsea
WHY?
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Post by Sushi Master Sun 20 Nov 2011, 19:48

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chaval wrote:Well, much is expected out of a team like Chelsea
WHY?
They actually have had a decent run of results, so it's only natural. They have titles and decent consistency to back it up. Most people only remember 1 or 2 years in the past, anyways.

If Arsenal comes out and wins this year's title, next year we're expected to at least challenge it, if not win it.

Ask the same question on Barca 10 years ago. Who the hell were Barca back then? Very Happy
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Post by milanfan7 Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:29

Sushi Master wrote:When you blow like half a billion, reach CL finals, win PLs for fun and that sort of stuff... yeah.

They neither won pls for fun nor reached cl finalS. They reached one final and won a couple of pls in what? 6 years?
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Post by Sushi Master Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:36

Milanfan7 wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:When you blow like half a billion, reach CL finals, win PLs for fun and that sort of stuff... yeah.

They neither won pls for fun nor reached cl finalS. They reached one final and won a couple of pls in what? 6 years?
3 PLs, regularly reached 2nd place and the 07-08 CL runner ups doesn't count? Apart from them being eliminated by Refcelona the next year?

3 FA cups?

Do your homework.
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Post by baresi Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:52

But thats all they have, in a very short period, what did they have pre Mourinho?

My point is Chelsea fans have to understand they are not a big club anymore as a matter of fact they have never been, they are nothing more than Leeds United lets say. So when they lose against the top clubs they should'nt be that upset.
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Post by Guest Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:54

"'Our responsibilities are to win trophies. At the moment we are in four of them" ~AVB

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Post by Sushi Master Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:54

What? Like they can't rebuild their team or they're out of money? Laughing Because they have a completely shit squad that probably only needs a few players to be solid? Because they've adapted a completely new philosophy that will take time to implement?

History wise they're not a big club, but history is not taken into account nowadays with billions flowing around as if they were nothing.

Just look at the hype ManC is getting and they are as historically insignificant as you can get.

Chelsea are considered nowadays to be a big club, like it or not.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:55

Newcastle > Chelsea

We have won more league titles in our history :coffee:
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Post by milanfan7 Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:58

Sushi Master wrote:
Milanfan7 wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:When you blow like half a billion, reach CL finals, win PLs for fun and that sort of stuff... yeah.

They neither won pls for fun nor reached cl finalS. They reached one final and won a couple of pls in what? 6 years?
3 PLs, regularly reached 2nd place and the 07-08 CL runner ups doesn't count? Apart from them being eliminated by Refcelona the next year?

3 FA cups?

Do your homework.

Fa cups? are you joking? Who actually cares about those?

I made a mistake,it's three pls and not two,but that doesn't change the fact that they didn't win a shitload of trophies. They did win trophies but not as many as you believe they did.

Cant believe that i didn't bash arsenal about the trophy thing btw banana
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Post by Gil Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:58

When's the last time Newcastle won a major trophy Mole? Laughing

Crappy troll thread btw. Try harder


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Post by Sushi Master Sun 20 Nov 2011, 20:58

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Newcastle > Chelsea

We have won more league titles in our history :coffee:
Sheffield Wednesday > Newcastle and Chelsea :coffee:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun 20 Nov 2011, 21:01

Sushi Master wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Newcastle > Chelsea

We have won more league titles in our history :coffee:
Sheffield Wednesday > Newcastle and Chelsea :coffee:

Technically its.......

Newcastle = Sheffield Wednesday > Chelsea :coffee:

@ Gil

1969 :coffee:

Just think were would we be if we continued winning things :coffee:

Rich mans Real Madrid indeed :coffee:
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Post by Sushi Master Sun 20 Nov 2011, 21:02

Milanfan7 wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:
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Sushi Master wrote:When you blow like half a billion, reach CL finals, win PLs for fun and that sort of stuff... yeah.

They neither won pls for fun nor reached cl finalS. They reached one final and won a couple of pls in what? 6 years?
3 PLs, regularly reached 2nd place and the 07-08 CL runner ups doesn't count? Apart from them being eliminated by Refcelona the next year?

3 FA cups?

Do your homework.

Fa cups? are you joking? Who actually cares about those?

I made a mistake,it's three pls and not two,but that doesn't change the fact that they didn't win a shitload of trophies. They did win trophies but not as many as you believe they did.

Cant believe that i didn't bash arsenal about the trophy thing btw banana
FA Cups are a big deal in England. Hardest league cup to win in all of Europe, by far.

They have still won a decent ammount of trophies. They are rich, attract big star players, challenge for trophies regularly and even win some... What else do you want? I guess we can write off Milan because they haven't challenged the CL since 07.
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Post by lenear1030 Sun 20 Nov 2011, 21:04

Sushi Master wrote:
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chaval wrote:Well, much is expected out of a team like Chelsea
WHY?
They actually have had a decent run of results, so it's only natural. They have titles and decent consistency to back it up. Most people only remember 1-2 years in the past, anyways.

If Arsenal comes out and wins this year's title, next year we're expected to at least challenge it, if not win it.

Ask the same question on Barca 10 years ago. Who the hell were Barca back then? Very Happy


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Post by baresi Sun 20 Nov 2011, 21:06

Sushi Master wrote:
Milanfan7 wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:
Milanfan7 wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:When you blow like half a billion, reach CL finals, win PLs for fun and that sort of stuff... yeah.

They neither won pls for fun nor reached cl finalS. They reached one final and won a couple of pls in what? 6 years?
3 PLs, regularly reached 2nd place and the 07-08 CL runner ups doesn't count? Apart from them being eliminated by Refcelona the next year?

3 FA cups?

Do your homework.

Fa cups? are you joking? Who actually cares about those?

I made a mistake,it's three pls and not two,but that doesn't change the fact that they didn't win a shitload of trophies. They did win trophies but not as many as you believe they did.

Cant believe that i didn't bash arsenal about the trophy thing btw banana
FA Cups are a big deal in England. Hardest league cup to win in all of Europe, by far.

They have still won a decent ammount of trophies. They are rich, attract big star players, challenge for trophies regularly and even win some... What else do you want? I guess we can write off Milan because they haven't challenged the CL since 07.
You are not getting it.

Milan has been and still are winning trophies, Chelsea had a few good seasons and are now concidered a big club??

I would say an ambitious club, a club that is trying to built a name, etc....
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Post by Sushi Master Sun 20 Nov 2011, 21:11

Lots of people think Arsenal are a small club due to lack of trophies, yet we're still rich, known worldwide and can attract decent talents.

If we factor in history we're only behind Liverpool and Manchester.

No one gives a shit about history nowadays, is the point I'm trying to make Very Happy They only care about results which is why we always have an army of bandwaggoneers following any half decent club.

Barcelona 5 years ago were pretty meh when it came to trophies and results. Look what a few years can do to your reputation.

And lenear Very Happy That was awesome and I don't know how I missed it. Further proves my point people only remember short term results.
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Post by baresi Sun 20 Nov 2011, 21:21

Fine, then this thread should be a reminder to all those who have fish like memories
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Post by Sushi Master Sun 20 Nov 2011, 21:29

Yeah, it really depends on what you consider a big club to be.

1. Historically mighty, prestigious clubs often found in CL positions and top half of the table. Can attract good talent by sheer force of influence. Often rich.

2. Strong, very well built club which in player quality alone can challenge titles. Often rich. Attracts top talent not just by influence, but by ambition or simply economic reasons.

I think most people see it as #2 nowadays. Give it a few years and Málaga, ManC and PSG might all be considered big clubs where any player would love to go.

The only thing alike in those two is always money. Guess what that means Wink
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