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Post by Forza Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:38 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
AttacanteBG wrote:Pace is important in this case, Pato use it to devasting effect.

Cite some big games Pato has scored in v. games Mario Balotelli has not.

Barcelona, Real Madrid.

Scoring in two games makes you automatically better ? Mario Balotelli has done nothing, right ? Did not score [off the top of my head] v. Manchester United twice ? I think twice...either way, once at the very least. :coffee:

^ The question was asked, and and a good answer was given.

I can't believe I didn't kill the finishing debate off with the stats on page 3 of this thread.

Also, this Milanista bias thing is rubbish, Balotelli is a Milan supporter too. eco smile

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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:12 am

Ah yes your the other Milanista who I answered too. So Attancante, refer to that post, and stop saying none sense.
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Post by Lord Hades Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:03 am

all the posters i see supporting pato in this thread are all milan fans.. wonder why hmm
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Post by JuvenelCuore Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:07 am

diptiman wrote:all the posters i see supporting pato in this thread are all milan fans.. wonder why hmm

Coincidence ? :coffee:
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Post by The_ItalianFool Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:09 am

I would much rather Pato on my team over Balotelli


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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:11 am

diptiman wrote:all the posters i see supporting pato in this thread are all milan fans.. wonder why hmm

yes I wonder why. Only one non Milan fan is supporting Pato, and he's the guy who said it on top of me. :coffee:
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Post by Lord Hades Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:29 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
diptiman wrote:all the posters i see supporting pato in this thread are all milan fans.. wonder why hmm

yes I wonder why. Only one non Milan fan is supporting Pato, and he's the guy who said it on top of me. :coffee:

and his forum name ends with the word 'fool' Razz
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Post by The_ItalianFool Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:31 am

diptiman wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
diptiman wrote:all the posters i see supporting pato in this thread are all milan fans.. wonder why hmm

yes I wonder why. Only one non Milan fan is supporting Pato, and he's the guy who said it on top of me. :coffee:

and his forum name ends with the word 'fool' Razz


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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:31 am

:lol!:
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Post by Lord Hades Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:58 am

The_ItalianFool wrote:
diptiman wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
diptiman wrote:all the posters i see supporting pato in this thread are all milan fans.. wonder why hmm

yes I wonder why. Only one non Milan fan is supporting Pato, and he's the guy who said it on top of me. :coffee:

and his forum name ends with the word 'fool' Razz


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kidding man :bom:
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:03 am

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:26 am

I would have Pato over Balo.

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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:42 am

english_jewel wrote:I would have Pato over Balo.

It's not about who you would have, it's about who is more of the complete striker with more potential in the future. It's not about your hatrad or admiration towards players.
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Post by The_ItalianFool Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:13 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
english_jewel wrote:I would have Pato over Balo.

It's not about who you would have, it's about who is more of the complete striker with more potential in the future. It's not about your hatrad or admiration towards players.

Still Pato.
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Post by lszanto Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:14 am

The_ItalianFool wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
english_jewel wrote:I would have Pato over Balo.

It's not about who you would have, it's about who is more of the complete striker with more potential in the future. It's not about your hatrad or admiration towards players.

Still Pato.

How is he more complete?
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Post by The_ItalianFool Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:17 am

lszanto wrote:
The_ItalianFool wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
english_jewel wrote:I would have Pato over Balo.

It's not about who you would have, it's about who is more of the complete striker with more potential in the future. It's not about your hatrad or admiration towards players.

Still Pato.

How is he more complete?

I think he can do just about anything Balo is capable of. The only thing Balo really has over him is physique and less injury prone, but Pato has the mentality and attitude of a champion.
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Post by lszanto Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:28 am

The_ItalianFool wrote:
lszanto wrote:
The_ItalianFool wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
english_jewel wrote:I would have Pato over Balo.

It's not about who you would have, it's about who is more of the complete striker with more potential in the future. It's not about your hatrad or admiration towards players.

Still Pato.

How is he more complete?

I think he can do just about anything Balo is capable of. The only thing Balo really has over him is physique and less injury prone, but Pato has the mentality and attitude of a champion.

Balotelli: 632 minutes played, 8 goals so a goal every 79 minutes.

Pato: 244 minutes played, 1 goal so a goal every 244 minutes.

Balotelli is better at passing, long shots and free kicks.
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Post by The_ItalianFool Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:40 am

lszanto wrote:
The_ItalianFool wrote:
lszanto wrote:
The_ItalianFool wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
english_jewel wrote:I would have Pato over Balo.

It's not about who you would have, it's about who is more of the complete striker with more potential in the future. It's not about your hatrad or admiration towards players.

Still Pato.

How is he more complete?

I think he can do just about anything Balo is capable of. The only thing Balo really has over him is physique and less injury prone, but Pato has the mentality and attitude of a champion.

Balotelli: 632 minutes played, 8 goals so a goal every 79 minutes.

Pato: 244 minutes played, 1 goal so a goal every 244 minutes.

Balotelli is better at passing, long shots and free kicks.

Pato has better finishing and positioning.
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Post by The_ItalianFool Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:41 am

Obviously so far this season the stats favor Balo, but this is very short term to base your rating of a player on.
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Post by dostoevsky Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:58 am

lszanto wrote:Balotelli: 632 minutes played, 8 goals so a goal every 79 minutes.

Pato: 244 minutes played, 1 goal so a goal every 244 minutes.

Balotelli is better at passing, long shots and free kicks.

Yeah, let's ignore everything Pato has done and focus on a few games at the beginning of the season when he had no service because our team was unfit and struggling.

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This thread is repeating so I'll say once more:

Balotelli's talent is more complete so as I said earlier, he has a higher ceiling, however Pato's talent is very well concentrated to what he needs to do on the pitch for the team. His build-up play isn't a burden on us, he's simply inconsistent and average as far as Brazilian strikers in this area and once he defeats his injuries this will improve greatly. As far as finishing goes, both are cold as ice, the dispute is over inches at best.

Pato has had a better career up until this point, however it doesn't affect which one is better at the moment - in terms of class not form - it simply means they've had different trajectories. Pato's reputation has been earnt over years though, Balotelli needs more than two months of form to be said to be realising his true potential.

If this was between two other players, everyone would be complaining about how everyone only rates Player X because he's in the Premier League. Because it suits however, Goal Legacy is suddenly the home of the objective fan.

"To put it into perspective" on the very first page RealGunner and Mole said they were equal, so let's cut the Milanista bias nonsense.They're close enough that you can justify either view.
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Post by zarola Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:13 pm

Balotelli is epl proven :coffee:

Nah but seriously Pato doesn't have anything but speed over Balotelli

Balotelli has always had more potential but Pato was the better player every year except this one because he was getting more chances.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:55 pm

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Pato has better finishing and positioning.

Finishing by 0.2?
Positioning? I would beg to differ.

Balotelli can play either as a Prima or Seconda Punta.
Can play on either wings and wide forward positions.
Can also play in a 4-4-2(as in those winger roles)

Pato can't even do those positions.
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Post by AttacanteBG Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:32 pm

Can also play in a 4-4-2(as in those winger roles)

So he could play Nedved position?
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Post by julias Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:48 pm

Balotelli 132 apps (club/country) 47 goals

Pato 167 apps 75 goals

Pato is averaging nearly 1 in 2 Balo just below 1 in 3 so I dont see how Balo i by far the better finisher as one guy is claiming

Pato is far quicker end of anyone who argues this is just stupid

however I do think Balo is more mature in his game, more complete at this stage of his development, Pato is explosive but also a little less refined but with his injuries its hard to develop consistently

for me now its Balo but things change quickly in football at the start of the season Balo couldn't even get a game
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:53 pm

AttacanteBG wrote:
Can also play in a 4-4-2(as in those winger roles)

So he could play Nedved position?

Read what I said, he can play on the wings.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:53 pm

julias wrote:Balotelli 132 apps (club/country) 47 goals

Pato 167 apps 75 goals

Pato is averaging nearly 1 in 2 Balo just below 1 in 3 so I dont see how Balo i by far the better finisher as one guy is claiming

Pato is far quicker end of anyone who argues this is just stupid

however I do think Balo is more mature in his game, more complete at this stage of his development, Pato is explosive but also a little less refined but with his injuries its hard to develop consistently

for me now its Balo but things change quickly in football at the start of the season Balo couldn't even get a game

Pretty much what I'm saying, the finishing is pratically equal. :coffee:
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