European and Russian Multiculturalism: Enough?

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Post by Grande_Milano Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:26 am

I have a feeling Breivik is not the last one..."One big global family" thing isnt working at all, instead of different cultures coexisting together, we get a clash between them. Maybe Huntington in his "Clash of Civilisations" was right?

In England I see very closed communities of immigrants who sometimes speak bad language of country they live in. There are also a lot of cases of immigrants behaving "unproperly". France riots years ago for instance.

Back at home I see a country that won war against separatists in Checnya, seeing same those Chechens who have a grudge against anything Russian, behaving like conquerors. And thats not a generalisation, coming from liberal person.

Now people gonna say "dont generalise", I say when Merkel, Sarkozy, Cameron and Putin officially express: "Multiculturalism failed. Immigrants are danger", you simply cant ignore elephant in a room.


And supposed most tolerant countries/nations in the world dont have this "multiculturalism":

USA: despite being immigrant country in the beginnnig, has one of the toughest immigration laws.

Japan and Israel define themselves as nationalist governments with strong national identity?


What do you think?
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:13 am

Europe can never have an identity except an ethnic one, the united states is different.

The reason why there are tighter immigration laws in the united states are not cultural but economical, unions feared that more immigration would result in lower wages. Its really a farce.
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Post by red&blacklegion Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:07 pm

look at US people are so divided,because they're all from different backgrounds!divide and conquer! if all these superpowers stopped plundering other countries and help them grow we wouldnt have these problems!
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Post by Senor Penguin Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:20 pm

Canada is doing fine.

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Post by fatman123 Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:54 pm

Australia is one of the most multi cultural countries in the world and we're doing fine, i cant say theres any real issue with multicultrualism, of course every now and again theres tensions between ethnicities and racialy evoke violence (eg Indian bashings in Melbourne) but honestly more then anything these people are just a group of tools looking at something to point there anger at, if it werent Indians itd be slavs or asians etc and if the whole country we filled with blond hair blue eyed australians then itd be short people or something.

anyway look at Ireland, theres very little multi-culturalise and the vast majoirty of people are Irish and still the North and South cant co-exist, really a war over catholicism vs prodestantism is just stupid theyr epretty much the same thing
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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:14 am

Multiculturalism in Europe: Immigrants not prepared to embrace the culture they live in.

Australia, Canada and USA is you can say an ideal. But, Europe and Asia is different. Unlike Anglosphere, Europe and Asia do take pride in their culture and national identities that have been the corner stone of their civilisations.

Again this is not issue of race, I can care less abut how people look, its issue of culture. When one/few cultures (speaking of islamisation) try to overtake another, instead of coexisting with it, then there is a clash



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