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Post by Red Alert Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:09 am

I've always wanted to make a thread in response to the Russian League.

It's Friday night here, and I'm about to go out, but what are your opinions on the Russian League?

I'll post mine tomorrow some time.

Before I do go, I'd just like to say that I do feel as if it's underrated by a lot of posters on this forum.
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Post by The Franchise Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:10 pm

I think people are quick to write it off and the players inside it.

For example, if we start talking about the best strikers in the world. Nobody mentions Etoo, simply for the reason he is now playing in Russia. However, just because he plays in that league doesnt mean he is somehow less of a player.

Anyway, I dont watch the league but the stronger teams we see in the CL seem pretty strong to me and always pose a tricky problem.

I think its only a matter of time before everyone has to take it at least partially serious because they continue to attract strong players to the league. Indeed, at the moment its based on money alone. However, players moved to City to start off with, for money alone. So lets wait and see.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:14 pm

It's really difficult to find Russian League games. They don't show it on any english channels, either UK or USA ( AFAIK) unless it comes on BeIn sports. The only place i did catch RPL was on Al jazeera and that was when i was waiting for a ligue 1 game.

Therefore i would like to watch it sometimes because there are some quality players over there. But it's difficult to watch it.

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Post by The Franchise Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:26 am

I think I will make an effort to watch Anzi vs Zenit, if only for Etoo and Hulk.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:55 am

same here, tell me when it is lol
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Post by The Franchise Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:11 am

I was relying on you to do that for me lol
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:23 am

Sunday 9th December. Time not confirmed as of yet. Zenit at home
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Post by The Franchise Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:02 am

OK we are watching RG, dont forgot.
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Post by Red Alert Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:44 am

That's fair enough RG. I can understand that.

My main point was the continuos attack from posters on the league as if it's a very weak league. It's far from that. It is a strong league and it's only going to get better.

The Russian Premier have the likes of Zenit, CSKA Moscow and Anzhi all contending for the league with Rubin and Spartak far from weak opposition. Terek sit fourth currently, but I'm yet to see them play. Like you, I find it hard to watch their games.

@The Franchise wrote:I think people are quick to write it off and the players inside it.

For example, if we start talking about the best strikers in the world. Nobody mentions Etoo, simply for the reason he is now playing in Russia. However, just because he plays in that league doesnt mean he is somehow less of a player.

Anyway, I dont watch the league but the stronger teams we see in the CL seem pretty strong to me and always pose a tricky problem.

Great points as usual Dani. They will be a massive threat to teams in the CL. They're definitely not going to bend over to teams.


I think its only a matter of time before everyone has to take it at least partially serious because they continue to attract strong players to the league. Indeed, at the moment its based on money alone. However, players moved to City to start off with, for money alone. So lets wait and see.

This is an interesting point. There is no doubt they do spend big, but there's a reason for it.

They genuinely want to become a better league. They need to attract better foreign players to join them hence the large offers. When the league starts to get better recognition, I can see the high spending to stop to be totally honest.

Also, I feel as if your last sentence is targeted towards Anzhi (correct me if I'm wrong). That's definitely not the case. They have a net spend of 103.5m from the last 3 seasons. That is definitely not too bad when you compare them to the likes of City, Chelsea, Madrid, Barca, hell Liverpool also. Getting in the CL next season will cover their losses. They have a young squad (bar Carlos and Eto'o) and look in good hands with Hiddink.

On Guus Hiddink, I feel he has made a very strong squad and if he does stay with them for a couple of more seasons I can see him challenging for the CL with Anzhi. That is no joke. I rate him as one of the best tactical coaches presently. He does have the resources to spend to make his own side if needed.
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Post by McAgger Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:24 am

Also take into consideration that the current league is very young, being founded in 2001. After Soviet Union broke in '91 the Russian Top Division had no stability. The teams that played in the Soviet league (Spartak Moskva, CSKA, Torpedo Moskva, Dynamo Moskva, Lokomotiv Moskva, and a 6th team I can't recall right now), had to create themselves their own league in Russia and finding competitive teams from lower division was next to impossible. But since the new RPL establishment in 2001 the league has been on the rise. I predict it to become a heaviweight league in the next 50 years, especially since there is money available in the country.
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Post by The Franchise Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:08 pm

ynwa wrote:That's fair enough RG. I can understand that.

My main point was the continuos attack from posters on the league as if it's a very weak league. It's far from that. It is a strong league and it's only going to get better.

The Russian Premier have the likes of Zenit, CSKA Moscow and Anzhi all contending for the league with Rubin and Spartak far from weak opposition. Terek sit fourth currently, but I'm yet to see them play. Like you, I find it hard to watch their games.

@The Franchise wrote:I think people are quick to write it off and the players inside it.

For example, if we start talking about the best strikers in the world. Nobody mentions Etoo, simply for the reason he is now playing in Russia. However, just because he plays in that league doesnt mean he is somehow less of a player.

Anyway, I dont watch the league but the stronger teams we see in the CL seem pretty strong to me and always pose a tricky problem.

Great points as usual Dani. They will be a massive threat to teams in the CL. They're definitely not going to bend over to teams.


I think its only a matter of time before everyone has to take it at least partially serious because they continue to attract strong players to the league. Indeed, at the moment its based on money alone. However, players moved to City to start off with, for money alone. So lets wait and see.

This is an interesting point. There is no doubt they do spend big, but there's a reason for it.

They genuinely want to become a better league. They need to attract better foreign players to join them hence the large offers. When the league starts to get better recognition, I can see the high spending to stop to be totally honest.

Also, I feel as if your last sentence is targeted towards Anzhi (correct me if I'm wrong). That's definitely not the case. They have a net spend of 103.5m from the last 3 seasons. That is definitely not too bad when you compare them to the likes of City, Chelsea, Madrid, Barca, hell Liverpool also. Getting in the CL next season will cover their losses. They have a young squad (bar Carlos and Eto'o) and look in good hands with Hiddink.

On Guus Hiddink, I feel he has made a very strong squad and if he does stay with them for a couple of more seasons I can see him challenging for the CL with Anzhi. That is no joke. I rate him as one of the best tactical coaches presently. He does have the resources to spend to make his own side if needed.

I wasnt thinking of Anzhi alone really. I was more thinking on a general term.

The players the league have, its similar to when City started. They went and got a level of player, way above what you would think.

I dont really rate Hiddink, so ill leave that out there.
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Post by Abramovich Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:54 pm

I hope Honda and Alan leave the Russian league soon.
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Post by Sina Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:29 am

Alert Razz
Zenit vs Anzhi
Tomorrow(Monday)
4PM
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Post by RealGunner Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:08 am

Sina you life saver lol

forgot about this
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Post by The Franchise Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:55 am

Sina :bow:

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:17 pm

Sina :bow:

Edit: Why are they playing in an empty stadium?
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Post by Onyx Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:46 pm

It's not just the Russian league that's underrated, it's every league that isn't one of the top 3 leagues.

For a player I'm sure winning one of the top 3 league means more than winning a league that isn't top 3.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:20 pm

Zenit-Anzhi 1-1

fair result though anzhi were clearly the better team in the first half an hour.Danny got sent off for showing his frustration at the referee.Bystrov came on in the second half and bolstered the Zenit attack. My dream of seeing Criscito and Danny link up hasn't happened yet. Sad

The one who benefitted from the match was actually CSKA.

cska 43
anzhi 41
zenit 38

Also Spartak picked up a win against Rubin in the earlier match. I could watch only the final 20 minutes of it, and it was all gung-ho.

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Post by Lupi Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:38 am

eco smile Money makes the world go around , Money is what makes Brazilians go to Russia and suffer the cold weather
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Post by McAgger Wed May 08, 2013 6:12 pm

Zenit v Anzhi on right now :bow: :bow: Very important match for CL spots. Zenit are still in the title race. Anzhi must win or they will be mathematically out of CL contention
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Post by McAgger Wed May 08, 2013 7:51 pm

Eto'o scores the WINNER. Anzhi win :bow: Zenit's chances of the title look slim. They are 3 points behind CSKA who has a match in hand. 2 games remaining. They can seal the title tomorrow.

Anzhi go within 4 points of Zenit for the last CL spot.
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Post by McAgger Thu May 09, 2013 2:12 am

Wait I take all of that back. It was the Russian Cup. Can't believe I sat there for 2 hours and watched the Russian Cup Sad
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