Something I heard

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Far better in general ? No. You are assuming and when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.

This right here demonstrates why you create so many problems. Why wouldnt you just specify what you meant instead of provoking negative reactions?

You are either a trolling or dense enough to not realize when you are posting like a d-bag.

Fab... why do you hop from one person to the other? First it's me... than it's JNC... who's next lol? Make up your mind. If it's both of us, that is completely false due to the fact that you accused me yesterday more than him, and now your doing it to him.

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Look at what I said earlier. Both of you are pompous and do not know how to interact with people in a respectful manner. 90% of the threads where a problem starts, you guys are the cause of it.

Fab, if you didn't realize...

This summer I was in Italy. Guess what, there were still problems.
Last month, I took a break from the forums... and yet STILL PROBLEMS.

Explain to me how I'm creating them... if I'm not even on the forums?

In this past week, I will admit I've been in them... however that includes you, maybe more you than me as now your putting problems with other posters. Why are we both doing problems, well I speak for myself not for you. As for you I can come up with the assumption in which you just stated you want us to be 'more respectful', and you know my answer... I couldn't careless. You know how I am, you yourself said that you know people who are like me with the way they speak. like it or not(im not going to go further as I posted this yesterday). As for me going after you... is that fact that I don't fall for your BS. You out of all people actually supported Giu when he insulted Pino and in fact harrased him. But hey, if my assumption is right... you should refer to your friend before suggesting those things to me.

This summer, unbeknownst to me, the forum broke down and was wiped while I was at my cottage, which had limited internet access. Then when I was banned, the mess of pornography broke out. Where was I ?

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Fab, if you didn't realize...

This summer I was in Italy. Guess what, there were still problems.
Last month, I took a break from the forums... and yet STILL PROBLEMS.

Explain to me how I'm creating them... if I'm not even on the forums?

In this past week, I will admit I've been in them... however that includes you, maybe more you than me as now your putting problems with other posters. Why are we both doing problems, well I speak for myself not for you. As for you I can come up with the assumption in which you just stated you want us to be 'more respectful', and you know my answer... I couldn't careless. You know how I am, you yourself said that you know people who are like me with the way they speak. like it or not(im not going to go further as I posted this yesterday). As for me going after you... is that fact that I don't fall for your BS. You out of all people actually supported Giu when he insulted Pino and in fact harrased him. But hey, if my assumption is right... you should refer to your friend before suggesting those things to me.

Speaking of respect. Insulting others is not respectful bro... In which you did yesterday... did I insult you? No. Have I ever insutled anyone on this forum... Never did. So I think we should think before stating that we are disrespectful.

If JNC says 'fake fan'... it's his business. Not mine... I didn't say nothing.
If I say I got a problem with you... than it's my business and I will deal with it in a matter I feel it's right. As long as I don't break the rules... it's all fine and dandy.

Sciacca, what I say you say, and vice-versa. We are the same person, remember ?

JuvenelCuore wrote:Sciacca, what I say you say, and vice-versa. We are the same person, remember ?

It's ridiculous... I get accused for things I don't even say.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

Smidhofer wrote:South Americans are generaly much better than Italians....But I hope someday clubs will come to the point they will all just play with players, that they raised not bought....It`s becoming a supermarket - just buy the best players and win the CUP....

Generaly I aplause the move in this kind of world of football!

How so? Juventus have dominated historically with a dominance with Italians. That being said, we've won four world cups with a dominating Juventini squad in the Azzurri.

i just read the entire thread, and found that you responded for me. Not only is this a +1 antonio, but i appreciate that you said what you had to say without making it a point to prove everyone wrong. good form.

also, ppl laughing and saying "south americans > italians" just remember that you support an italian team that has been the best producer of italian talent, while supplying the national team (second only to brazil in terms of WC victories) witha plethora of international superstars. Furhtermore, it is a European national team, not a south american national team, that has the 3rd most WC victories. In addition, besides brazil, a south american team hasnt even won it in the last 25 years years... in addition to that, the last 6 world cups (1990-2010) have seen 4 European winners, to south americas 1 winner (twice). It is a myth that south americans are better. They might be better individuals, but the proof is in the pudding.

Thank you Aldo. Resoundingly accurate and well-voiced. Kudos.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Fab, if you didn't realize...

This summer I was in Italy. Guess what, there were still problems.
Last month, I took a break from the forums... and yet STILL PROBLEMS.

Explain to me how I'm creating them... if I'm not even on the forums?

In this past week, I will admit I've been in them... however that includes you, maybe more you than me as now your putting problems with other posters. Why are we both doing problems, well I speak for myself not for you. As for you I can come up with the assumption in which you just stated you want us to be 'more respectful', and you know my answer... I couldn't careless. You know how I am, you yourself said that you know people who are like me with the way they speak. like it or not(im not going to go further as I posted this yesterday). As for me going after you... is that fact that I don't fall for your BS. You out of all people actually supported Giu when he insulted Pino and in fact harrased him. But hey, if my assumption is right... you should refer to your friend before suggesting those things to me.

I dont care what happened to your pimpdaddy :lol!:

thanks man... IMO its not a "this nation > than that"... its about recognizing the fact that each nation produces top quality players and some of those nations utilize the group better than others... look at germany 2002-06...

Brazilians are the best footballers, probably with no doubt, but for every WC brazilian there are 100 average overhyped ones that dont cut it at the top level.

Also, call me a romanticist, but I would prefer Italians in the team, bc once upon a time, Italian, brazilia, french, whatever club teams were made up of PREDOMINANTLY (not only, soley, exclusively) players from that nation and supplemented with foreign talent. Im not an ultranationalist (italians only) nor am i an I dont give a crap who we sign (sign anyone, even at the expense of italian talent), but I believe going back to the old days is the best way to do it... interestingly enough, that is how Juventus has ALWAYS done it in the past. Lets not move to far away from what has made us successful in the past. With that being said, I feel Marotta has done a good job of bring in italians that are capable of, or presently doing a servicable if not better job (giaccherini, pepe, barzagli, bonucci, Matri, Quagliarella)

Thank you Aldo. Resoundingly accurate and well-voiced. Kudos.

JuvenelCuore wrote:Thank you Aldo. Resoundingly accurate and well-voiced. Kudos.

double post? or just double the kudos?

king_alex10 wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

Smidhofer wrote:South Americans are generaly much better than Italians....But I hope someday clubs will come to the point they will all just play with players, that they raised not bought....It`s becoming a supermarket - just buy the best players and win the CUP....

Generaly I aplause the move in this kind of world of football!

How so? Juventus have dominated historically with a dominance with Italians. That being said, we've won four world cups with a dominating Juventini squad in the Azzurri.

i just read the entire thread, and found that you responded for me. Not only is this a +1 antonio, but i appreciate that you said what you had to say without making it a point to prove everyone wrong. good form.

also, ppl laughing and saying "south americans > italians" just remember that you support an italian team that has been the best producer of italian talent, while supplying the national team (second only to brazil in terms of WC victories) witha plethora of international superstars. Furhtermore, it is a European national team, not a south american national team, that has the 3rd most WC victories. In addition, besides brazil, a south american team hasnt even won it in the last 25 years years... in addition to that, the last 6 world cups (1990-2010) have seen 4 European winners, to south americas 1 winner (twice). It is a myth that south americans are better. They might be better individuals, but the proof is in the pudding.

Grazie and agreed.

By the way Fab, once again... I don't contribute... My oh my... Another contribution.

The_ItalianFool wrote:

I dont care what happened to your pimpdaddy :lol!:

No surprise... you have no explanation to what I said when I proved you wrong with me being at the roots of the problems in this forum. Once again Fab condradicting himself. Nice response.. Very intellectual indeed.

'PimpDaddy' is the type of remark which supports Giu. Thanks for confirming it for me and that response just shows how niave you really are by the way.

king_alex10 wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:Thank you Aldo. Resoundingly accurate and well-voiced. Kudos.

double post? or just double the kudos?

The latter my friend.

The_ItalianFool wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Far better in general ? No. You are assuming and when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.

This right here demonstrates why you create so many problems. Why wouldnt you just specify what you meant instead of provoking negative reactions?

You are either a trolling or dense enough to not realize when you are posting like a d-bag.

Fab... why do you hop from one person to the other? First it's me... than it's JNC... who's next lol? Make up your mind. If it's both of us, that is completely false due to the fact that you accused me yesterday more than him, and now your doing it to him.

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Look at what I said earlier. Both of you are pompous and do not know how to interact with people in a respectful manner. 90% of the threads where a problem starts, you guys are the cause of it.

Amen brother!

Dawg it`s not a rasist thing...its biologicaly proven that black man have longer ancle muscle than white man....so its science - but this is not the thread...so pls stop

It is still racist, just in a positive way
Like, all Asians are good at math, that really isn't offensive but its still a stereotype and not a good way to judge a person, let alone an athlete.

I truly hope i did not insult anyone!!! This was not something to judge the person, but it was more like "precentage looking" in general. It was not my intention to put racial in it....

I could also say that: Spanish are more temperament than most of europe...

it is just a statistic (proven) way of looking on things

Your post was not meant for it to be insulting. Dont worry

Smidhofer wrote:I truly hope i did not insult anyone!!! This was not something to judge the person, but it was more like "precentage looking" in general. It was not my intention to put racial in it....

I could also say that: Spanish are more temperament than most of europe...

it is just a statistic (proven) way of looking on things

no its not insulting, I was just stating something else

Quit the racist talk and realize that Italy currently don't have the kind of fullback we need!!! Criscito seems out of reach after we dumped him and if we want to build for the future and do well for the coming years too we can't go get an older italian as fullback! Man big teams in the world (Inter, Milan, ManU, RealM, Barca, Arsenal etc) all have one thing in common; Brazilian defenders.. Bruno Cortes is a modern fullback at 24 years of age - they don't grown on the olive trees in Italy and that is why Marotta has booked a ticket for his right hand to go and see if Juve would benefit from this exciting guy!

In modern football you need the best players no matter their nationality - claiming we should never buy a brazilian in Juve again because we've had some bad experiences (Amauri etc) is just the most ridiculous thing i've seen here for a long, long time!!

Italy will never rise to former glory days if we don't accept the fact that this country currently aren't producing enough young quality players to fill out all the positions of the top teams!!!

ok about left back area that we have the problem and we have to find a solution in january few are good around the world and no top left back since Roberto Carlos erra.

our mistake was to sell Balzaretti and Criscito this are the best Italian left backs and we gave them away so now there is no other solution than to sign someone that is good enough no matter the nationality if Osama Bin Landen was a good left back i could bring him to Juve.we have a damn problem in that position and De Ceglie and Grosso are a joke

in general i prefer Italian players but no needed to have only Italians in our team.

also this guy Veratti looks really promising we better hurry and get him if we need a future Pirlo also with Pirlo in our team he can learn alot of things and become a future World Class player.