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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:45 am

Let me guess, my fault ? :coffee:

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Post by Il Pinguino Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:49 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:I can, just do not have the will. I already showed I am not the cancer of this forum, and I have solidified myself as an educated fan who is immersed in Juventus's culture. If this forum is not gratified at having me here as an asset, not much I can do, now is there ?
HAHAHAHA so now we have to be gratified to have you? Like your some kind of king? This is what you come back with. It's like you like burying yourself in a hole. I don't know whether i'm talking to a Juventus fan or just a full-fledged idiot. Your arrogance is unbelievable. Your no asset believe me. I'm an accountant. Your ass is a liability here. You do nothing positive to contribute here. Your posts are mainly insults. Your an obvious racist. And you can't back anything you say up without insulting the other person. So tell me again....what do you do here exactly to make us oh soooo lucky to have you?

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Post by Il Pinguino Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:50 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:Let me guess, my fault ? :coffee:
Absolutely!!!!! You are learning Laughing
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:11 am

I hate to be redundant, but I am an asset to this forum whether you like it or not because my views represent the majority's v. the minority's and I take offence to being called a 'racist.'

But hey, you are the humble one here my friend. :coffee:
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Post by Il Pinguino Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:36 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:I hate to be redundant, but I am an asset to this forum whether you like it or not because my views represent the majority's v. the minority's and I take offence to being called a 'racist.'

But hey, you are the humble one here my friend. :coffee:
Your views are shit because your disrespectful. Plain and simple.

And congrats you take offense to being called something that is true of you. Why don't you apologize to all those you have been racist to before going on about how you feel about the matter at hand. The Ignorance on your part......
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:51 am

When have I been racist ?

Oh, tell me something non-existant why do you not ? :coffee:
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Post by Luca Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:58 am

Being biased towards Italians/saying things like Esti should go back where he came from can be interpreted as racist. I know this isn't your intention Nick so don't take this the wrong way but I can see how they can get to that conclusion.

We all have our biases, some show more than others.

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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:00 am

Luca wrote:Being biased towards Italians/saying things like Esti should go back where he came from can be interpreted as racist. I know this isn't your intention Nick so don't take this the wrong way but I can see how they can get to that conclusion.

We all have our biases, some show more than others.

That was not intended to be racist... I would say it to Amauri to. None of you have heard that term being used ? I have heard it here even if someone is bugging you, you would reply, "Go back to wherever the hell you came from."

My bad, though. That was not the intention. I have nothing against the guy; he is very humble and respectful towards Juventus.
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Post by Il Pinguino Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:01 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:When have I been racist ?

Oh, tell me something non-existant why do you not ? :coffee:
HA there is such a thing as indirect racism you know :coffee:

You practically round around the forums going "ITALIANS ARE THE BEST"
You have said multiple times in the past that only Italian fans are the true fans of Juve.
The list can keep going. Only and ignorant like you does not see this. The majority of the board would agree. Don't believe me throw up a poll. Although I feel if you did people either wouldn't respond or ignore it to avoid an argument. That's how dead this forum is because of you.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:01 am

Speaking about the squad and not the fan base, what Nick is saying is true. Juventus is known for being ItalJuve, a majority with Italians. Something for many Italians to be proud about, it's called pride. So having a majoirty of them playing now is not a big deal and Conte is not a Rascit like someone pointed out in an idiotic topic.
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Post by Il Pinguino Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:07 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Speaking about the squads and not the fan base, what Nick is saying is true. Juventus is known for being ItalJuve, a majority with Italians. So having a majoirty of them playing now is not a big deal and Conte is not a Rascit like someone pointed out in an idiotic topic.
It is true. But that doesn't mean it has to be like that always. Juve is Juve Italian or non Italian. All I care about is having a strong promising squad. Juve have a chance this season. People here need to appreciate that a bit more.
A forum is not about who is right or who is wrong. Rather a place to share and appreciate others thoughts and ideas. You do not have to agree with everything everybody says. However this place has become nothing but ongoing arguments.
Just to give an example...only here would you see a thread about Del Piero and his retirement turn into a Lichsteiner is the worst player and Marotta does not know shit thread. Just to give an idea of what this forum has become.

And I agree I do not believe Conte is a racist. I have full faith in him
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:10 am

Look, I'd rather see Elia and Krasic over Pepe and Giaccherini for all I care. I can't stand those them. Even with Elia and Krasic play, At the end of the day, a majority of Italians are still playing... so nothing has to change. The whole point of the Italian colors in the stadium is what represents Juve historically. So I completely disagree about it having to change. This is Juventus for a reason and I want Juventus to be the same way.
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Post by Il Pinguino Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:16 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Look, I'd rather see Elia and Krasic over Pepe and Giaccherini for all I care. I can't stand those them. Even with Elia and Krasic play, At the end of the day, a majority of Italians are still playing... so nothing has to change. The whole point of the Italian colors in the stadium is what represents Juve historically. So I completely disagree about it having to change. This is Juventus for a reason and I want Juventus to be the same way.
I like having italians too. However the priority should be winning whether it is with italians or not. The majority ethnicity of the team does not matter to me as long as we win.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:45 am

Yes, winning, and we've been winning historically and presently with a majority of Italians. As it stands,we are unbeaten... which at this moment means a lot. That being said, most of the Italians playing play for the national team, which make them winners.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:47 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Yes, winning, and we've been winning historically and presently with a majority of Italians. As it stands,we are unbeaten... which at this moment means a lot. That being said, most of the Italians playing play for the national team, which make them winners.

All that has to be said here. :coffee:
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Post by zarola Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:50 am

Devi is not a real fan because he's not Italian. How is that not racist?
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:53 am

zarola wrote:Devi is not a real fan because he's not Italian. How is that not racist?

Zarola, Im speaking about the squad, I said the fanbase was not part of what I said. :facepalm:
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Post by Luca Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:32 am

zarola wrote:Devi is not a real fan because he's not Italian. How is that not racist?

That isn't relevant to what we were discussing but I'll answer this anyways.
I can't speak for Dejan but I know I don't support Juventus to impress anyone, knowing the type of person that Devi is I can promise he is the same- so comments against the merit of a fan here or anywhere will not be taken seriously as it just doesn't matter.
As a fan you are only bound to the club, who cares what someone on the internet thinks about you?

Thats how I feel anyways

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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:28 am

Zarola, I never said that. If I did, I would never speak to Kwame nor value his opinion, yet I do, and he can testify to that.

That is just an individual example, but I cited it because him and I speak on Skype almost everyday, and we go above and beyond just a mutual love for Juventus.
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