A staggering fact: no EPL club in UCL qf

It goes with us as well

I have no problem supporting Newcastle in EL for example

inb4 they are our rivals for midtable

they are your rivals for midtable tho

I don't think you'd even find media in spain supporting both barca/madrid in europe but thats probably because there are three or so major news outlets based in the region where these archrivals play. I think they are in different to other laliga teams so am I tbh

I just dont want to see those midgets guts anywhere near the latter stage of the European cup

If it was like Valencia/Sevilla/Atletico, then yeh, it'd kinda make sense to support them in Europe.

However Barca, nah, they are our biggest rivals in the World. We compete with them mainly and if they're winning things, then that means we need to improve.

Too many English teams play like its a PL game and not a CL game.... the difference between the too is massive in the way the game is played not necessarily the quality but the tactical level.

I know its the EL and its Anzhi and not Real Madrid lol but i found this quote quite telling.

Anzhi on NUFC "Newcastle actually didn't play a Premier League game, they played a European game."

Only really Man Utd understood that this season its not that surprising.

Its ok we will dominate EL stead

epl is crap.

take away the foreign owners, players, and managers and that league is a joke. perhaps a level about the SPL but nothing more.

Rossonero23 wrote:epl is crap.

take away the foreign owners, players, and managers and that league is a joke. perhaps a level about the SPL but nothing more.

Take away the players and managers? i think your find no league would exist without players and managers mate

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Rossonero23 wrote:epl is crap.

take away the foreign owners, players, and managers and that league is a joke. perhaps a level about the SPL but nothing more.

Take away the players and managers? i think your find no league would exist without players and managers mate

Touche.

I was only joking. EPL is fine, just a off year.

Brazil, mole :tea:

I'd be interested to see how leagues would fare if this were the case.

Messi would certainly score more than Pele in the Argentinian league

Rossonero23 wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Rossonero23 wrote:epl is crap.

take away the foreign owners, players, and managers and that league is a joke. perhaps a level about the SPL but nothing more.

Take away the players and managers? i think your find no league would exist without players and managers mate

Touche.

I was only joking. EPL is fine, just a off year.

I think its more than that tbf there is a tactical problem when it comes to the European stage.

Also my bad, my lack of sleep is hindering my joke/sarcasm radar

There's nothing wrong with English sides.

City is too inexperienced and their manager is useless in Europe.
United were favourites to beat Madrid but Nani's sending off switched the favour.
Can't explain Chelsea.
Arsenal is Arsenal. They play for the money - they don't play to win. Although, they were unfortunate getting Bayern.

ynwa wrote:There's nothing wrong with English sides.

ynwa wrote:City is too inexperienced and their manager is useless in Europe.
United were favourites to beat Madrid but Nani's sending off switched the favour.
Can't explain Chelsea.
Arsenal is Arsenal. They play for the money - they don't play to win. Although, they were unfortunate getting Bayern.

When you're giving the reasons as to why they're failing in Europe there has to be something wrong then.You seem rather confused yourself with this post of yours.

And Arsenal werent 'unfortunate' by any means to draw Bayern.Its their fault for finishing 2nd in the group and i'd also go ahead and say they would've struggled to get past any of the sides they could've drawn in the Round of 16.(Maybe Malaga is probably the easiest side they could've drawn but the rest of them would've been tough to get past too).

Chelsea and Man City's groups group had 2 top teams.Juventus and Shakhtar and Real madrid and Dortmund.These weren't exactly patchwork amateur teams from the Faroe Islands

But lets face it,EPL's golden patch in the CL was tainted with Calciopoli

Stormer77 wrote:Chelsea and Man City's groups group had 2 top teams.Juventus and Shakhtar and Real madrid and Dortmund.These weren't exactly patchwork amateur teams from the Faroe Islands

Dortmund's group had even three top teams in it (I won't consider Ajax as scrubs). So what?

Milan's group had to 2 great teams, Malaga and Zenit :I'munoriginal:

Stormer77 wrote:Chelsea and Man City's groups group had 2 top teams.Juventus and Shakhtar and Real madrid and Dortmund.These weren't exactly patchwork amateur teams from the Faroe Islands

City couldn't even win against Ajax. I wonder whether they are considered a top team now

Even when LFC,MUFC,Arsenal and Chelsea where constantly making the last 16 of the CL and in further,at the same time,the likes of Everton,Villa,Spurs,Bolton,Blackburn,Man City where failing hopelessly in the UEFA Cup.Outside of the old big 4,none of the other EPL clubs have consistantly done anything of note in Europe

Middlesborough made the UEFA cup final in 2006. Fulham made the Uefa Cup Final in 2008...

RealGunner wrote:Middlesborough made the UEFA cup final in 2006. Fulham made the Uefa Cup Final in 2008...

once off flash in the pans

RG, take the same advice you gave Dani the other day, this dude is must have a few screws loose (at the very least).

Obviously we can't disagree with your opinion

RG gave TWO examples and you called a (and I quote you) "once off flash in the pans." How do you expect me (or anyone, for that matter) to take your opinion seriously?

They where.

Sevilla won the UEFA Cup in 2006 and did it in 2007.They've made 2 CL round of 16 appearances and won a UEFA Super Cup.Not some flash in the pan!!

This topic is about the English Premier league in general, no?

Well its "failures",yes