Who is the best player in the world today for both club and country?
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Re: Who is the best player in the world today for both club and country?
Alves doesn't suck for Brazil though.
Except in the friendly against Germany. He got that penalty nicely, from Lahm of all people, but besides that he got owned a bit. But in other matches he is actually as good for Brazil as he is for Barca, so he's a good shout imho.
Except in the friendly against Germany. He got that penalty nicely, from Lahm of all people, but besides that he got owned a bit. But in other matches he is actually as good for Brazil as he is for Barca, so he's a good shout imho.
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Alvez has been pretty poor for Brazil as of late though Viva.
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So? Messi got 10 assists in last 7 matches. but what they win? baltters ass. if you count friendlies messi made headlines against brazil france spain portugal
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Zealous wrote:Alvez has been pretty poor for Brazil as of late though Viva.
The Brazil NT has been pretty poor for Brazil as of late, though, no?
Awww, here I go again: they should've kept Dunga.
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Hey hey now, Blatter's ass is actually a very coveted prize you know.
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halamadrid2 wrote:jibers wrote:I'm sorry, how does Xavi not win this hands down? Fulcrum for spain in the Euros, fulcrum for Barca the last 3 seasons, WC team built around him and Spain plays around him. No competition tbh. Maybe Villa, he was Spains main attacking threat in EUros and dragged them through WC with his goals and jkust became all time leading scorer. but Xavi is numero uno. Ozil? loooooooooooool. What a joke, Fabregas has done more than him ffs.
xavi was crap for large chunks of last season apart from maybe the CL final and other handful of games, this season it doesnt exactly look like he is improving lol, btw xabi alonso is spains second top scorer under VDB
villa second...... *not sure if serious*
and ozil for the NT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other midfielder around the world
Really? Bias aside do you really think Ozil is better for club and country then Xavi in the last 3 years??? Comon man I know your a Madrid fan and you hate Xavi but give credit where it's due!
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Probably Xavi or Ozil.
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Xavi is regista, Oezil something else. Of course, Xavi influences a game in many more ways than Oezil. Still, both of them perform for club and country. Messi is the real victim, he can't influence anything at all without midfielders, not his job but makes him look very bad.white_star wrote:halamadrid2 wrote:jibers wrote:I'm sorry, how does Xavi not win this hands down? Fulcrum for spain in the Euros, fulcrum for Barca the last 3 seasons, WC team built around him and Spain plays around him. No competition tbh. Maybe Villa, he was Spains main attacking threat in EUros and dragged them through WC with his goals and jkust became all time leading scorer. but Xavi is numero uno. Ozil? loooooooooooool. What a joke, Fabregas has done more than him ffs.
xavi was crap for large chunks of last season apart from maybe the CL final and other handful of games, this season it doesnt exactly look like he is improving lol, btw xabi alonso is spains second top scorer under VDB
villa second...... *not sure if serious*
and ozil for the NT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other midfielder around the world
Really? Bias aside do you really think Ozil is better for club and country then Xavi in the last 3 years??? Comon man I know your a Madrid fan and you hate Xavi but give credit where it's due!
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Your IQ is below avarage. without midfielders? or without midfielders, defenders and goalkeeper? without a team would be better sentence. nobody would perform better than messi if he played for argentina instead of messi. but instead messi would perform better than anyone if he played for the teams that you mentionedDivine Intervention wrote:Xavi is regista, Oezil something else. Of course, Xavi influences a game in many more ways than Oezil. Still, both of them perform for club and country. Messi is the real victim, he can't influence anything at all without midfielders, not his job but makes him look very bad.white_star wrote:halamadrid2 wrote:jibers wrote:I'm sorry, how does Xavi not win this hands down? Fulcrum for spain in the Euros, fulcrum for Barca the last 3 seasons, WC team built around him and Spain plays around him. No competition tbh. Maybe Villa, he was Spains main attacking threat in EUros and dragged them through WC with his goals and jkust became all time leading scorer. but Xavi is numero uno. Ozil? loooooooooooool. What a joke, Fabregas has done more than him ffs.
xavi was crap for large chunks of last season apart from maybe the CL final and other handful of games, this season it doesnt exactly look like he is improving lol, btw xabi alonso is spains second top scorer under VDB
villa second...... *not sure if serious*
and ozil for the NT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other midfielder around the world
Really? Bias aside do you really think Ozil is better for club and country then Xavi in the last 3 years??? Comon man I know your a Madrid fan and you hate Xavi but give credit where it's due!
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You should test your IQ level first,you know the part about reading comprehension.I wrote Messi is the victim, what's so hard to understand?billionmillion wrote:Your IQ is below avarage. without midfielders? or without midfielders, defenders and goalkeeper? without a team would be better sentence. nobody would perform better than messi if he played for argentina instead of messi. but instead messi would perform better than anyone if he played for the teams that you mentionedDivine Intervention wrote:Xavi is regista, Oezil something else. Of course, Xavi influences a game in many more ways than Oezil. Still, both of them perform for club and country. Messi is the real victim, he can't influence anything at all without midfielders, not his job but makes him look very bad.white_star wrote:halamadrid2 wrote:jibers wrote:I'm sorry, how does Xavi not win this hands down? Fulcrum for spain in the Euros, fulcrum for Barca the last 3 seasons, WC team built around him and Spain plays around him. No competition tbh. Maybe Villa, he was Spains main attacking threat in EUros and dragged them through WC with his goals and jkust became all time leading scorer. but Xavi is numero uno. Ozil? loooooooooooool. What a joke, Fabregas has done more than him ffs.
xavi was crap for large chunks of last season apart from maybe the CL final and other handful of games, this season it doesnt exactly look like he is improving lol, btw xabi alonso is spains second top scorer under VDB
villa second...... *not sure if serious*
and ozil for the NT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other midfielder around the world
Really? Bias aside do you really think Ozil is better for club and country then Xavi in the last 3 years??? Comon man I know your a Madrid fan and you hate Xavi but give credit where it's due!
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he cant influence anything at all is not a right word. wasnt he main influence in WC 2010? 80% of teams goals came from him. seems you dont watch him play, you just read goal.com headlines
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billionmillion wrote:
Your IQ is below avarage. without midfielders? or without midfielders, defenders and goalkeeper? without a team would be better sentence. nobody would perform better than messi if he played for argentina instead of messi. but instead messi would perform better than anyone if he played for the teams that you mentioned
Who cares about midfielders, defenders or goalkeeper? Messi should be able to win the game by himself, else he's trash. Who cares if the defense is bad? If Argentina loses, it's his fault. Isn't that what you said about Ronaldo yesterday? Why is it any different now?
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Leo Messi and Xavi Hernandez hands down. Is there even any question?
I've never seen two players perform so consistently at a high level for both club and country.
A lot of you will obviously say that Messi doesn't perform for country, but that's just because you don't know anything.
I've never seen two players perform so consistently at a high level for both club and country.
A lot of you will obviously say that Messi doesn't perform for country, but that's just because you don't know anything.
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Iniesta for Spain and Özil for Germany. maybe Cassano for Italy too but he's inconsistent.
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_LMG_10_ wrote:Leo Messi and Xavi Hernandez hands down. Is there even any question?
I've never seen two players perform so consistently at a high level for both club and country.
A lot of you will obviously say that Messi doesn't perform for country, but that's just because you don't know anything.
lmfao
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italy doesnt face a lot of big teams and cassano is very inconsistent for usEl Pipita wrote:Iniesta for Spain and Özil for Germany. maybe Cassano for Italy too but he's inconsistent.
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Ganso wrote:italy doesnt face a lot of big teams and cassano is very inconsistent for usEl Pipita wrote:Iniesta for Spain and Özil for Germany. maybe Cassano for Italy too but he's inconsistent.
id say ddr for Italy more so than Cassano
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looool. Ozil is ot even in Xavi's postcode, don't mention them in the same breadth. Xavi was poor last season? He tore both our teams apart last season. (5-0) and (3-1). By his standards, maybe, but hwe was still above evry other cm in the world. Ozil? Haha, where was Ozil when Xavi dominated Germany? hwere was Ozile when Barca won 5-0 and 2-0, where was ozil? Don't call that dudes name. Come back to me when he is the fulcrum of a team that wins the cl, euros and WC. I'm not even a fan of xavi, but this is just ridiculous tbh.
i knew you were gonna mention 5-0, wait a sec we made jeffren look like world class ffs, how about mentioning any of the other games we had against them, seriously i bet you dont even watch him play just ride on his rep from 2-3 years ago, its been know for a while xavi is on a DECLINE
was xavi really that good in the 2-0 game, seriously??? dont embarrass yourself ffs
btw ozil vs barca second league meeting???, ozil vs barca copa final??, ozil vs barca first leg super copa??? what do you call those, where was xavi then??? wait it cant be one offs anymore can they smfh.....go figure he had better performance than most of those divers
mate ozil is already the fulcrum for both madrid and germany, while germany looks like a proper united team, spain look soo disjointed and rely on individuals to score
also ozils first season, we reached the semi-final, he had most asissts in the CL, second most asissts in the league, and has got most asissts as of now for the qualifiers
come back to me after youve done some background research on ozil....thnk you
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Pirlo, Xavi, Ozil, Schweinsteiger, David Villa, Arjen Robben, Cavani
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Ozil has been amazing for both.
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I forgot to add David Silva to my list. Always admired his play, and won't forget that screamer he scored against Chelsea when he still played at Valencia
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