Since we're at it

!st Stolen Title
Date 10th May 1981, Juve leading Serie A by two points faces Roma second in Turin, 2 more games remaing, so basically the winner wins it all, it's the 80th min, Juve down to 10, Roma scores the winner they start celebrating, not too fast goal cancelled offside goal. Juve goes on to win its 19th league title by 2 points difference.



2nd Tilte:
2005-2006 I cant understand why Juve are insisting on regaining this title, it was proved that they had a part in it (major or minor) not my point, they are claiming Inter has played a part in it, if proven correct then the title has to go to Roma, they were given the 2nd position after the scandal, so if it goes from inter Inter it should head to Roma.

More to follow......

First of all... Not even close to the same situation.

Second... Why does anyone even still care about this?

Also... I thought it was the 05 one they want back because there is no 05 winner. It was stripped with no alternate champion. 06 was awarded to Inter by the courts.

wtf you can't be serious

Roma has right in the 80-81 title as much as Juve have in the 2005-2006, and seiously I dont know why they are insisting on the one with Inter?

Crimson wrote:wtf you can't be serious

Why not? AS Roma where not involved what so ever in the calciopoli, so Inter are guilty and the title stripped from them, why should it go to Juve who where also guilty, why not go to the runnerup that was'nt guilty?

Like I said.. 2 completely different situations. Plus I think you have your facts wrong on the title they actually want back which makes your argument look even more ridiculous.

nicholasmenger wrote:Like I said.. 2 completely different situations. Plus I think you have your facts wrong on the title they actually want back which makes your argument look even more ridiculous.

please move on, if you dont have something better/else to say.

Last I checked, Roma didn't want ANY titles back.

We prefer to actually win our titles with our football.

I honestly do not see the point of this thread.

Since we are at it, pool should go after 85 CL from Juve, just look at what kind of non existant not in box penalty Juve got to win the thing

Oh not to mention 98 title to Inter, with most obvious and famous "ref mistakes" in Juve v Inter which won them the title.

P.S Roma is not clean as you think.

http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_a/juventus/calciopoli/2011/09/17-144783/Calciopoli%2C+la+Roma+organizzava+pranzi+per+salvarsi+

Is this the new standard way to win tittles in serie A?

Milan should give back the 2006/2007 Cl as originally they should not have been in that competition due to their part in the scandal.

McLewis wrote:Last I checked, Roma didn't want ANY titles back.

We prefer to actually win our titles with our football.

I honestly do not see the point of this thread.

Juventus won those titles on the pitch as we had the best squad at the time and nobody can't deny that. We were superior to everyone, the point is... everyone cheated.

Oh and for you Milanisti, I got a video a clip that may interest you. Crudeli admitting to Zuliani that Juventus do deserve their Scudetto's back.

Why do we even play football anymore?

Lets just vote on who wins starting in like august...vote once a month narrowing the field down a couple teams at a time
















voter fraud everyone lawyer up

CroInter wrote:P.S Roma is not clean as you think.

http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/serie_a/juventus/calciopoli/2011/09/17-144783/Calciopoli%2C+la+Roma+organizzava+pranzi+per+salvarsi+

Tuttosport

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

McLewis wrote:Last I checked, Roma didn't want ANY titles back.

We prefer to actually win our titles with our football.

I honestly do not see the point of this thread.

Juventus won those titles on the pitch as we had the best squad at the time and nobody can't deny that. We were superior to everyone, the point is... everyone cheated.

Everyone cheated and yet Juve are the only ones asking for something in return.

Why is that?

McLewis wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

McLewis wrote:Last I checked, Roma didn't want ANY titles back.

We prefer to actually win our titles with our football.

I honestly do not see the point of this thread.

Juventus won those titles on the pitch as we had the best squad at the time and nobody can't deny that. We were superior to everyone, the point is... everyone cheated.

Everyone cheated and yet Juve are the only ones asking for something in return.

Why is that?

Because Juventus was punished more harshly than all other clubs combined?
Not to mention the actual facts of the case are questionable at best...

I don't know, I think there is a reason that calciopoli stuff keeps on re-surfacing every year.

Neal, I'm shocked. You out of all people should know the answer. Yes I know your a Romanista, but being an Italian football fan, the answer is pretty self explanatory. Luca perfectly said, we got title revoked from us when the punishement should never of been that. The judge who banned Moggi and the judge who demoted Juventus to Serie B admitted that if those audio tapes of Inter were used during that trial, the case would of gone completely around. Those titles were never won becuase of cheating, we won because we were the best as the time, having 9 out of 11 players starting for the national team. We were that good.

Luca wrote:

McLewis wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

McLewis wrote:Last I checked, Roma didn't want ANY titles back.

We prefer to actually win our titles with our football.

I honestly do not see the point of this thread.

Juventus won those titles on the pitch as we had the best squad at the time and nobody can't deny that. We were superior to everyone, the point is... everyone cheated.

Everyone cheated and yet Juve are the only ones asking for something in return.

Why is that?

Because Juventus was punished more harshly than all other clubs combined?
Not to mention the actual facts of the case are questionable at best...

I don't know, I think there is a reason that calciopoli stuff keeps on re-surfacing every year.

So because Juve were punished more harshly than the others....they somehow should get both of their scudetti back? By what logic does that make any sense?

Everyone's hand got caught in the cookie jar. Juve's hand got smacked the hardest and now they want the biggest handout for it? I'm having quite the time wrapping my head around that one.

Simple, the trial was completely unfair. Due to our unfair punishement, we should of never lost those titles in the first place and because of all of this, we've lost 250m through out that time, so not only do we demand our titles back, but also compensation. If it wasn't for Calciopoli, Inter would never of had this sucess, and having the proof now showing that Inter were just as guilty if anything worst than Juventus, then we should get our Scudetto back as we deserved it always, we won it once again on the pitch as we were the best squad.

McLewis wrote:

Luca wrote:

McLewis wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

McLewis wrote:Last I checked, Roma didn't want ANY titles back.

We prefer to actually win our titles with our football.

I honestly do not see the point of this thread.

Juventus won those titles on the pitch as we had the best squad at the time and nobody can't deny that. We were superior to everyone, the point is... everyone cheated.

Everyone cheated and yet Juve are the only ones asking for something in return.

Why is that?

Because Juventus was punished more harshly than all other clubs combined?
Not to mention the actual facts of the case are questionable at best...

I don't know, I think there is a reason that calciopoli stuff keeps on re-surfacing every year.

So because Juve were punished more harshly than the others....they somehow should get both of their scudetti back? By what logic does that make any sense?

Everyone's hand got caught in the cookie jar. Juve's hand got smacked the hardest and now they want the biggest handout for it? I'm having quite the time wrapping my head around that one.

Either restore Juventus or punish every club involved from then and when new evidence surfaces now as harshly as Juventus
Either way it certainly isn't fair

This is all based on new evidence surfacing
Biggest handout is a couple returned titles? If only that were the only things lost in the scandal...

baresi !!!!

Seriously though, we don't want those meaningless titles. We want our victories on the pitch. But I will admit that I was hoping for Roma to be assigned the 06 title, not because I think we deserve it, but just for the lulz. I would have actually fell off my chair if we, the 5th placed team, got the title (and if Chievo finished 3rd for that matter).

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Simple, the trial was completely unfair. Due to our unfair punishement, we should of never lost those titles in the first place and because of all of this, we've lost 250m through out that time, so not only do we demand our titles back, but also compensation. If it wasn't for Calciopoli, Inter would never of had this sucess, and having the proof now showing that Inter were just as guilty if anything worst than Juventus, then we should get our Scudetto back as we deserved it always, we won it once again on the pitch as we were the best squad.

Have they been cleared of those accusations? If so, I haven't read as much. That's the only time we should be talking about compensation and the return of those revoked titles. I would love it if every team involved got the same punishment as what you guys went through, but the fact remains. No one has been exonerated. Thus, I see no reason for those revoked scudetti to go back to Juventus at this point nor should they stay with Inter. Both should be unassigned.

If Juventus were truly the best squad on the pitch, then why were they involved in this whole fiasco at all? Why would they, or any other team claiming the same thing you're claiming, need influence from the officials? It's all rather contradictory.

Luca wrote:

McLewis wrote:

Luca wrote:

McLewis wrote:

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

McLewis wrote:Last I checked, Roma didn't want ANY titles back.

We prefer to actually win our titles with our football.

I honestly do not see the point of this thread.

Juventus won those titles on the pitch as we had the best squad at the time and nobody can't deny that. We were superior to everyone, the point is... everyone cheated.

Everyone cheated and yet Juve are the only ones asking for something in return.

Why is that?

Because Juventus was punished more harshly than all other clubs combined?
Not to mention the actual facts of the case are questionable at best...

I don't know, I think there is a reason that calciopoli stuff keeps on re-surfacing every year.

So because Juve were punished more harshly than the others....they somehow should get both of their scudetti back? By what logic does that make any sense?

Everyone's hand got caught in the cookie jar. Juve's hand got smacked the hardest and now they want the biggest handout for it? I'm having quite the time wrapping my head around that one.

Either restore Juventus or punish every club involved from then and when new evidence surfaces now as harshly as Juventus
Either way it certainly isn't fair

This is all based on new evidence surfacing
Biggest handout is a couple returned titles? If only that were the only things lost in the scandal...

Of course it's unfair. I understand that part of this whole thing. There's obviously Inter-bias here, but Juve are not completely angelic either.

I certainly hope this new evidence helps right the wrongs, but Juve have a long way to go to reclaiming those lost titles.

As I said before, unless they are fully exonerated and cleared of any wrongdoing, I don't think they deserve to have those two title returned to them.