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Post by Guest Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:19 am

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11838_7223008,00.html

Atletico Madrid have apologised after fans chanted about deceased Sevilla midfielder Antonio Puerta during a match between the two Primera Liga clubs.

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Post by Potential Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:22 am

What as a club can Athletico Madrid do? it's their fans (not all) that are moral-less .
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Post by Art Morte Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:29 am

Yeah, there are bad apples in every club's fans.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:23 pm

Art Morte wrote:Yeah, there are bad apples in every club's fans.

It's like the 5th incident in 2011 of their fans doing such things, it's on the club to make sure it doesn't happen at all

They apologise to save face and do nothing to stop it from happening again, disgraceful imo


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Post by Potential Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:25 pm

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Art Morte wrote:Yeah, there are bad apples in every club's fans.

It's like the 5th incident in 2011 of their fans doing such things, it's on the club to make sure it doesn't happen at all

They apologise to save face and do nothing to stop it from happening again, disgraceful imo


What do you suggest?
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:46 pm

Potential wrote:
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Art Morte wrote:Yeah, there are bad apples in every club's fans.

It's like the 5th incident in 2011 of their fans doing such things, it's on the club to make sure it doesn't happen at all

They apologise to save face and do nothing to stop it from happening again, disgraceful imo


What do you suggest?

How about during the game get those fans, evict them and ban them from future matches, don't see how it's so difficult considering it's something every other club in the world does.

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Post by nicholasmenger Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:31 pm

Do club officials physically view these individuals saying these things? Or do they just hear about it afterwards? How do you punish a guy for something you didn't see or have any evidence of?
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Post by gunner1987 Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:56 pm

I work part time as a Guest Relations member for a professional sports team in the states... We each have our own section of the stadium and it is our job to monitor the section, actively walk around and listen for foul/abusive language from ANY fans, home or away. It's really not hard to pick people out that are being disrespectful and swearing. We give them a warning, and if after that they continue they get ejected from the game. Honestly, if this continues to happen then it is quite obvious that Madrid either A) doesnt have the adequate staff to stop the chanting/abusive behavior (we have about 300 game day only staff at every single home game, most dedicated to this very purpose) or B) they just don't care.... Hard to say....

Although I really cannot imagine that it would be THAT hard to pinpoint an entire group doing abusive chants...

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Post by Adit Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:08 pm

Not really clubs fault.

Though they have a history of these type of incidents (very bad ultras) so they should have prevented it from happening almost every matches.
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Post by nicholasmenger Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:14 pm

gunner1987 wrote:I work part time as a Guest Relations member for a professional sports team in the states... We each have our own section of the stadium and it is our job to monitor the section, actively walk around and listen for foul/abusive language from ANY fans, home or away. It's really not hard to pick people out that are being disrespectful and swearing. We give them a warning, and if after that they continue they get ejected from the game. Honestly, if this continues to happen then it is quite obvious that Madrid either A) doesnt have the adequate staff to stop the chanting/abusive behavior (we have about 300 game day only staff at every single home game, most dedicated to this very purpose) or B) they just don't care.... Hard to say....

Although I really cannot imagine that it would be THAT hard to pinpoint an entire group doing abusive chants...

You can eject them for swearing? That sounds crazy.
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Post by windkick Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:25 pm

People in Madrid....

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:30 pm

nicholasmenger wrote:
gunner1987 wrote:I work part time as a Guest Relations member for a professional sports team in the states... We each have our own section of the stadium and it is our job to monitor the section, actively walk around and listen for foul/abusive language from ANY fans, home or away. It's really not hard to pick people out that are being disrespectful and swearing. We give them a warning, and if after that they continue they get ejected from the game. Honestly, if this continues to happen then it is quite obvious that Madrid either A) doesnt have the adequate staff to stop the chanting/abusive behavior (we have about 300 game day only staff at every single home game, most dedicated to this very purpose) or B) they just don't care.... Hard to say....

Although I really cannot imagine that it would be THAT hard to pinpoint an entire group doing abusive chants...

You can eject them for swearing? That sounds crazy.

Happens at any sporting venue here in Melbourne now, you can even report it via sms and have the ushers come and escort the people out near you.

The fact is Atletico often have racists chants almost every home game and reported incidents at least once a month, they should be doing more about it, but they don't.

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Post by JAY-Z Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:52 pm

Not good at all.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:43 pm

Today or a few daus earlier a similar story happened, Spurs fans on twitter told Wilshere they hope his new born son dies of desease. DISGUSTING.

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Post by windkick Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:59 pm

What were they chanting towards Adebayor at the Spurs game? I keep reading that the fans were disrespectful but I havnt read what they were chanting
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Post by Sushi Master Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:05 pm

Liverpool fans have a similar chant on the Munich crash when they play United... really, there are assholes everywhere.
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Post by StevieRayVaughan Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:57 pm

Just by the replies I can tell that most of you have actually NOT gone to a game in Spain, let alone in Madrid. Its very easy to read the news and get on your high horses. The racist chants underlines the problem in the culture of the whole nation. I have been to many games around Spain, unfortunately you can inevitably hear certain sections of the crowd making racist remarks. I have been to the Bernabeu, depending on where you sit, you will definitely hear racists remarks towards players who are black etc. In fact out of the stadiums that I have been to, the most problematic ones are Camp Nou (only been there thrice) and Sanchez Pizjuan (been there about 5/6 times).

I dont endorse such chants, but it is part of the cuture in Spain, so stop picking on Atleti as the only culprit.

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Post by gunner1987 Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:08 pm

nicholasmenger wrote:
gunner1987 wrote:I work part time as a Guest Relations member for a professional sports team in the states... We each have our own section of the stadium and it is our job to monitor the section, actively walk around and listen for foul/abusive language from ANY fans, home or away. It's really not hard to pick people out that are being disrespectful and swearing. We give them a warning, and if after that they continue they get ejected from the game. Honestly, if this continues to happen then it is quite obvious that Madrid either A) doesnt have the adequate staff to stop the chanting/abusive behavior (we have about 300 game day only staff at every single home game, most dedicated to this very purpose) or B) they just don't care.... Hard to say....

Although I really cannot imagine that it would be THAT hard to pinpoint an entire group doing abusive chants...

You can eject them for swearing? That sounds crazy.


this is decided by whoever is working a particular section. No ones going to get kicked out for dropping a few swear words... but if it is excessive, after every single play, or directed towards other fans then yes, they are subject to ejection. It is really aimed at preventing negative abuse towards opposing fans who may be sitting nearby, and the overly drunk people who drop F-Bombs every other word. No one really wants to hear that.

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Post by Zealous Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:47 pm

Arsenal fans singing "It should have been you in Angola" to Adebayor is just as bad IMO.

Pathetico and Shitvilla are scum clubs with scum fans. I'd suggest to ban both supporters from all of their games but seeing as how their stadium's are half empty anyway it would be redundant.
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Post by julias Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:22 pm

people who got to football matches for a top level club will know that it is not hard to catch these sort of people

from the Arsenal matches I have been to anyway there is an usher or security person everywhere

so really if disgusting incidents are happening all the time its simply down to the fact that they dont care all that much
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Post by fatman123 Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:53 pm

gunner1987 wrote:I work part time as a Guest Relations member for a professional sports team in the states... We each have our own section of the stadium and it is our job to monitor the section, actively walk around and listen for foul/abusive language from ANY fans, home or away. It's really not hard to pick people out that are being disrespectful and swearing. We give them a warning, and if after that they continue they get ejected from the game. Honestly, if this continues to happen then it is quite obvious that Madrid either A) doesnt have the adequate staff to stop the chanting/abusive behavior (we have about 300 game day only staff at every single home game, most dedicated to this very purpose) or B) they just don't care.... Hard to say....

Although I really cannot imagine that it would be THAT hard to pinpoint an entire group doing abusive chants...

Do you work at the MCG or AAMI park?
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Post by mr-r34 Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:50 pm

fatman123 wrote:
gunner1987 wrote:I work part time as a Guest Relations member for a professional sports team in the states... We each have our own section of the stadium and it is our job to monitor the section, actively walk around and listen for foul/abusive language from ANY fans, home or away. It's really not hard to pick people out that are being disrespectful and swearing. We give them a warning, and if after that they continue they get ejected from the game. Honestly, if this continues to happen then it is quite obvious that Madrid either A) doesnt have the adequate staff to stop the chanting/abusive behavior (we have about 300 game day only staff at every single home game, most dedicated to this very purpose) or B) they just don't care.... Hard to say....

Although I really cannot imagine that it would be THAT hard to pinpoint an entire group doing abusive chants...

Do you work at the MCG or AAMI park?

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Post by RED Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:15 am

Every club has scumbags amongst it's support. Never judge a club or an entire fanbase by the actions of a small group of mentally challenged individuals.
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Post by gunner1987 Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:40 am

[quote="mr-r34"]
fatman123 wrote:
gunner1987 wrote:I work part time as a Guest Relations member for a professional sports team in the states... We each have our own section of the stadium and it is our job to monitor the section, actively walk around and listen for foul/abusive language from ANY fans, home or away. It's really not hard to pick people out that are being disrespectful and swearing. We give them a warning, and if after that they continue they get ejected from the game. Honestly, if this continues to happen then it is quite obvious that Madrid either A) doesnt have the adequate staff to stop the chanting/abusive behavior (we have about 300 game day only staff at every single home game, most dedicated to this very purpose) or B) they just don't care.... Hard to say....

Although I really cannot imagine that it would be THAT hard to pinpoint an entire group doing abusive chants...

Do you work at the MCG or AAMI park?


haha. yes, thought it was clear when I said the states that it didn't mean Australia.

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