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Post by leemhuis Mon 03 Oct 2011, 03:09

The Madrid One wrote:henry
walcott
fabregas
cole
wilshere

on and on and on

Fabregas was well develop by Barca when he go to Arsenal.

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon 03 Oct 2011, 03:17

highburied wrote:@english_jewel

He can turn you into WC footballer but there's a catch, you need a bigger brain.

Adios.

Ah what's wrong? Couldn't answer my question? Laughing

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The Madrid One wrote:henry
walcott
fabregas
cole
wilshere

on and on and on

Fabregas was well develop by Barca when he go to Arsenal.

Well developed at 16?

The Madrid One wrote:henry
walcott
fabregas
cole
wilshere

on and on and on

Walcott world class? Serious?

And who's the "on and on"? And if you're going to stretch this back to the Henry era then that would take us back like 10+ years and based on the only four players you listed during that time period, I can't see how he's one of the best.

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Post by Grande_Milano Mon 03 Oct 2011, 03:50

Gotta be Wenger, or all these PSV/Ajax/Feyenoord coaches.

Just look PSV squad-future Sneijders/Robbens, exaggerating))

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Post by BiasedMilanFan3 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 03:51

Whoever coaches Ajax :coffee:
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Post by Grande_Milano Mon 03 Oct 2011, 04:07

Ajax has a shyte squad now though))
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Post by BiasedMilanFan3 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 04:27

Grande_Milano wrote:Ajax has a shyte squad now though))

Just Ajax in general then
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Post by The Madrid One Mon 03 Oct 2011, 04:36

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:who are the on and on? that's why i asked.

and walcott? he isnt established, although he is decent
walcott is established in his own right by starting for arsenal and being a regular, hes an established pro at a "top" club

there fore established imo doesnt mean just world class

@ english jewel

when was the word world class ever mentioned? established players is what we are naming
some others are
Anelka
Clichy
Song
Schezny
bendtner


point being, he gives alot of opportunity to youngsters that go on to become established players, with ok to great and even better reputations.

arsene wnger is up there.
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Post by Guest Mon 03 Oct 2011, 05:19

Luis Molowny deserves a mention

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Post by rwo power Mon 03 Oct 2011, 05:36

zarola wrote:Löw.?
Löw doesn't develop the youngsters, he uses players that are developed by the coaches of their clubs (Van Gaal, Tiger Gerland, Heynckes, Kloppo...). Kudos to Löw for actually playing them in the NT, though.
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Post by jibers Mon 03 Oct 2011, 05:45

leemhuis wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:henry
walcott
fabregas
cole
wilshere

on and on and on

Fabregas was well develop by Barca when he go to Arsenal.

is this dude high? Fab went to arsenal at like the age of 13 ffs. He is arsenals youth product ffs.
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Post by jibers Mon 03 Oct 2011, 05:47

Fergie, no question. Scholes, beckham, nevilles, fletcher, cleverley, welbeck, ronaldo, john o shea, wes brown etc
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Post by B-Mac Mon 03 Oct 2011, 06:02

jibers wrote:Fergie, no question. Scholes, beckham, nevilles, fletcher, cleverley, welbeck, ronaldo, john o shea, wes brown etc

how could you forget Giggsy

also soon to be Smalling, da silva twins...and Pogba in soon time :coffee:


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Post by B-Mac Mon 03 Oct 2011, 06:06

counter-attack wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Can you beat SAF at anything nowadays?
SAF is overrated.Manu were nowhere to be seen until he started spending big. His money ran out, see his team get worse again. 2 CL titles in 20 years, I don't think more proof is needed.


lmao let's see another manager keep rebuilding a champion over 20 years....totally overrated :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post by Guest Mon 03 Oct 2011, 06:12

Guess no ones heard of Luis Molowny, all well.....

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Post by The Madrid One Mon 03 Oct 2011, 06:15

Crimson wrote:Guess no ones heard of Luis Molowny, all well.....
real madrid player Smile Twisted Evil
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Post by StevieRayVaughan Mon 03 Oct 2011, 06:52

B-Mac MUFC wrote:
counter-attack wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Can you beat SAF at anything nowadays?
SAF is overrated.Manu were nowhere to be seen until he started spending big. His money ran out, see his team get worse again. 2 CL titles in 20 years, I don't think more proof is needed.


lmao let's see another manager keep rebuilding a champion over 20 years....totally overrated :facepalm: :facepalm:

I wouldn't call SAF the best manager ever or something, but by no way is that guy overrated. He deserves all the respect that he gets. I do agree that he could have done better with his CL tally, but CL is definitely the hardest competition to win. The fact that in recent times, no team has won back-to-back CLs will tell you how much luck/hardwork/skill is needed to win one.

I think Wenger is definitely up there, and so is Fergie.

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Post by Vyey Mon 03 Oct 2011, 08:29

counter-attack wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Can you beat SAF at anything nowadays?
SAF is overrated.Manu were nowhere to be seen until he started spending big. His money ran out, see his team get worse again. 2 CL titles in 20 years, I don't think more proof is needed.


LOL WHAT?! xDDDDDDDD

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Post by Giovanni10 Mon 03 Oct 2011, 09:00

Probably not the winner, but a shout out for Hiddink's PSV in the early 21st century.

lol at Cosmico for his ulterior motive of trying to get everyone to say Pep Guardiola. OP=backfire
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Post by VivaStPauli Mon 03 Oct 2011, 12:54

Van Gaal, Wenger, Heynckes, Kloppo, Tuchel - Pep could rotate more, but I get why he's tempted not to...
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