He's shit.

He was magnificent today.

I suggest you watch the re-play of the game.

His best game for us other than Man City

Hit the post, created a lot of space for Downing and Suarez, won 80% of aerial battles, helped out a lot in defense, and made some 50-60 yard passes with great accuracy. Still lacking in confidence, but very very good today

See latest post of the Torres thread.

Dear Angry Torres Mob,

After the dispersion of the Dzeko mob several months ago and given Torres' recent form, I've made the executive decision to permanently relocate our operation towards Andy Carroll effective immediately.

Regards,

jdi

Carroll should've scored in the last minute of the game......I dont know what he was trying to do dancing around players like Ronaldinho, just shoot Andy lol

Messiakanino wrote:Carroll should've scored in the last minute of the game......I dont know what he was trying to do dancing around players like Ronaldinho, just shoot Andy lol

He knew it was last kick of the game, so tried to make it a samba style goal

Still our 3rd best player today after Enrique and Suarez....

and for Gil, English media are already obsessed with him, discussing his life style all the time, I bet none of them have ever been out with him at a night.

as Kenny said: "He is a clever man, and his life style is much better than what you journalists want it to be to sell your papers, get a life"

How Carroll did not score is beyond me. He was fantastic today.

He was all over the pitch with sheer intelligence, made superb passes, was selfless and even it the post.

Was unlucky not to score but the positive is that his confidence is regaining.

Hmmm, since when does playing well stop the relentless attacks from the english media?? torres has been playing well all season and still gets attacked.
Carroll didn't score so he's shit

Disagree Sepi. The media (and Postman Pat) are obsessed with Carroll's private life but aside from that he doesn't get anywhere near the criticism Torres does.

Torres, Anelka and Drogba all score 1 goal in pre-season - Guess who all the media pressure was on. I mean f**king pre-season

Torres given the MOTM award against Stoke - Yeah but it's only Stoke

Torres "We need to pass the ball quicker, Mata brought in to fix it" - Player power blah blah

Torres assists two against Leverkusen - It doesn't count. "We need to see Fernando Torres the goalscorer not the creator"

Torres scores and repeatedly rapes United's defense - Focus on the sitter he missed rather than the performance. "Miss of the century"

Torres scores again and plays a huge part in Chelsea's 2nd goal- The fact that he got sent off will 100% make the backpages

Torres: £16.7m per PL goal. Carroll: £17.5m per PL goal

LOL gil.
Watch the game again .. You need to edit your first post again im afraid.

Just because torres never fails to crack you up, doesn't mean you attack Carroll all the time to remove your insecurity..

Nishank wrote:LOL gil.
Watch the game again .. You need to edit your first post again im afraid.

Just because torres never fails to crack you up, doesn't mean you attack Carroll all the time to remove your insecurity..

Torres doesn't crack anyone up, liverpool does

Meanwhile his old club Newcastle are unbeaten in 4th place one point behind Chelsea in 3rd

On the bench again today.

I don't know why you hate him Gil. It appears you are very insecure about the Torres deal in that you keep attempting to justify it through Carrol's failure.

But, Carrol isn't failing.

He is an exceptional player. Very young, and very, very good.

Poor mans Christian Vieri...That's all there is to him

no liverpool players get any criticism unfairly, they have to really deserve it to get brought up on it
carrolls a wife beating, injury prone, drinking overrated mess of a player. winning arial battles belongs in the stone age

drinking softens the area around the muscles etc, a pro footballer shouldnt be drinking any sort of pint / beer

cyberman wrote:no liverpool players get any criticism unfairly, they have to really deserve it to get brought up on it
carrolls a wife beating, injury prone, drinking overrated mess of a player. winning arial battles belongs in the stone age

drinking softens the area around the muscles etc, a pro footballer shouldnt be drinking any sort of pint / beer

Except that Carroll's gf was a crazy woman who actually attacked him and he responded in self-defense.

drinking? Haven't been following his sobriety in liverpool have you?

And all this talk about a mess of a person? Rooney says hi along with his habits (hell of a player though)

If I'm perfectly honest, I'm a wee bit disappointed in Carroll.

I'm starting to find it a fact that he's not offering us as much as we would need. I hope he manages to turn this around.

And I'm not really blaming him. Blowing £35m on him was simply too much, I think we should have waited until summer before replacing Torres.

Art Morte wrote:If I'm perfectly honest, I'm a wee bit disappointed in Carroll.

I'm starting to find it a fact that he's not offering us as much as we would need. I hope he manages to turn this around.

And I'm not really blaming him. Blowing £35m on him was simply too much, I think we should have waited until summer before replacing Torres.

I agree with you it would have been the smart thing to do, Suarez would have been more than enough......

With that said iam happy you did do what you did, because you have made us alot stronger.....

On the pitch and financially, thanks

Mole you should be forever grateful to Liverpool

Carroll was a desperate signing and I said it a day after they signed him.

They already brought in Suarez that time and they should have never rushed to spend all that money on one certain player who hadnt finish a half season in epl.

Well, he will never live up to expectations. NEVER.

^

Suarez was brought in to play with Torres.

Torres pms'd and left.

We tried to bring in Gomez and Llorente. Both were rejected. Settled with Carroll. And if I'm totally honest, I couldn't care less. There's no denying he's a great player, and once he gets used to system he'll start banging them in. You gotta remember, Drogba only scored like 10 goals in his PL debut season.

Carroll is not Drogba.

I never said Carroll is Drogba.

ynwa wrote:^

Suarez was brought in to play with Torres.

Torres pms'd and left.

We tried to bring in Gomez and Llorente. Both were rejected. Settled with Carroll. And if I'm totally honest, I couldn't care less. There's no denying he's a great player, and once he gets used to system he'll start banging them in. You gotta remember, Drogba only scored like 10 goals in his PL debut season.

The system isnt the issue imo, Carroll would be great in the system the problem is all too often Liverpool try to adapt to Carroll instead of Carroll adapting to Liverpool.....

When i watch you play without Carroll, you play exactly how you should play when Carroll is in the team but for some reason when Carroll plays you play the long ball too often which isnt Carroll's game to bully defenders like it would be for Drogba for example......

Continue your current style and when you get it wide cross it in with quality and you will see a drastic improvement in Carroll's performances....

And yes Messiakanino iam forever grateful