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Post by vivabarca38 Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:08 pm

Totally worth 35 million Is Andy Caroll a bargain? 2859867778
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Post by McAgger Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:11 pm

I like to think of Carroll as a free transfer +15mill.
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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:13 pm

I don't think he's as bad as many on this forum think he is.

Maybe at his current value, he'd be a bargain.
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Post by McAgger Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:21 pm

He's been really unlucky this season, If he gets at least 10 goals at the end the end of the year I'll be happy. He's never going to be a 30-goal-a-season striker, we even knew that when we signed him, but we do expect around 15-18 goals from him per season.
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Post by vivabarca38 Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:28 pm

WhoScored report on Andy Caroll in the Premier league:4 goals and an assist in 31 league games this season.2.1 shots per game,0.9 key passes per game,0.2 dribbles per game,dispossesed 1.1 times per game,Averages 19.3 passes per game and 64.7 % pass accuracy.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:36 pm

Ben Arfa 2m, Ba-Free, Cabaye 4m, Tiote 3.5m, Santon 5m, Cisse 8m, Krul-free

Now those are bargains :coffee:
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Post by vivabarca38 Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:38 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Ben Arfa 2m, Ba-Free, Cabaye 4m, Tiote 3.5m, Santon 5m, Cisse 8m, Krul-free

Now those are bargains Is Andy Caroll a bargain? 2859867778
Shhhhhh Logic is not allowed here.
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Post by The Messiah Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:41 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Ben Arfa 2m, Ba-Free, Cabaye 4m, Tiote 3.5m, Santon 5m, Cisse 8m, Krul-free

Now those are bargains :coffee:

and that's almost half of the money Liverpool gave us for Carrol.

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Post by McAgger Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:44 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Ben Arfa 2m, Ba-Free, Cabaye 4m, Tiote 3.5m, Santon 5m, Cisse 8m, Krul-free

Now those are bargains :coffee:

and that's almost half of the money Liverpool gave us for Carrol.

Newcastle :bow:

Us? Since when did you become as Newcastle die hard?
And If Carroll for free +15mill is not a bargain, I don't know what is.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:47 pm

Since we signed Cisse lol, i feel its my duty to point out that Ben Arfa, Tiote and Krul were bought before we sold Carroll :coffee:

Also Messia makes a good point, Carroll for free plus 15m sounds like the deal of the century hmm
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Post by McAgger Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:56 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Since we signed Cisse lol, i feel its my duty to point out that Ben Arfa, Tiote and Krul were bought before we sold Carroll :coffee:

Also Messia makes a good point, Carroll for free plus 15m sounds like the deal of the century hmm

We can all agree that the loser in this argument is a certain Russian egocentric billionaire that made it all possible. eco smile

Although, we did shoot ourselves in the foot in the summer spending almost 50 mill on Hendo, Adam, and Downing :vagi:
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Post by The Messiah Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:56 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Since we signed Cisse lol, i feel its my duty to point out that Ben Arfa, Tiote and Krul were bought before we sold Carroll :coffee:

Also Messia makes a good point, Carroll for free plus 15m sounds like the deal of the century hmm

But that's not even possible, Carrol for free plus 15m. lulz
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Post by The Messiah Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:57 pm

oh I get the joke, Torres.






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Post by Arquitecto Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:59 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Ben Arfa 2m, Ba-Free, Cabaye 4m, Tiote 3.5m, Santon 5m, Cisse 8m, Krul-free

Now those are bargains :coffee:

and that's almost half of the money Liverpool gave us for Carrol.

Newcastle :bow:

Us? Since when did you become as Newcastle die hard?
And If Carroll for free +15mill is not a bargain, I don't know what is.

Since he took a 180 degree turn on literally all his opinions. Laughing
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Post by McAgger Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:02 pm

If you think of it, the way things are going, had we kept Torres, he would've scored 1 goal less than Carroll for us in that time span, and we wouldn't have that extra 15mill eco smile
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Post by The Messiah Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:06 pm

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:If you think of it, the way things are going, had we kept Torres, he would've scored 1 goal less than Carroll for us in that time span, and we wouldn't have that extra 15mill eco smile

Plus I think Torres receive more wage, good thing you clear that up too.

What a Liability Torres is, but jokes apart, still can't justify Carrol as a big flop, Torres is just a Bigger flop.


Huntelaar has 46 goals in 41 appearance this season, I will love to see him in Liverpool
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Post by McAgger Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:06 pm

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I just realized, had we not had the extra 15 mill, we wouldn't have bought one of Adam or Downing Shocked

We have been trolled :vagi:
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Post by McAgger Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:09 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:If you think of it, the way things are going, had we kept Torres, he would've scored 1 goal less than Carroll for us in that time span, and we wouldn't have that extra 15mill eco smile

Plus I think Torres receive more wage, good thing you clear that up too.

What a Liability Torres is, but jokes apart, still can't justify Carrol as a big flop, Torres is just a Bigger flop.


Huntelaar has 46 goals in 41 appearance this season, I will love to see him in Liverpool

yeah I know, but we can't dwell on something we can't get back. And I'd take Pukki over Huntelaar in the blink of an eye. As much as I like Huntelaar, he's turning 29 soon and will only have 2/3 more years at the most at the highest level.
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Post by The Messiah Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:14 pm

I understand the age thing, but Huntelaar is better than over-rated Podolski, yes Podolski is a good player, but his highly over-rated on this forum
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Post by McAgger Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:18 pm

I beg to differ with that statement. I don't think Podolski is at all overrated, he's playing for the shitties team in Bundesliga and yet he's carrying them like a god. Other than goals Huntelaar doesn't really offer much.

But I want Pukki over both of them.
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Post by JAY-Z Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:45 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Ben Arfa 2m, Ba-Free, Cabaye 4m, Tiote 3.5m, Santon 5m, Cisse 8m, Krul-free

Now those are bargains :coffee:

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Post by justdoit_ Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:46 pm

For a mere 35 million, Liverpool revealed how they need to clean house with new coaches, players, ballboys, etc across the board. Bargain.
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Post by stevieg8 Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:07 am

I think Liverpool fans in general have been more satisfied with Carroll than most... Granted some of that is part of being a fan, but genuinely he's looked good in his games since the beginning of the year. Do we wish that translated to regular goals? Of course. But his hold up play, flick ons and passing have been excellent, and he consistently wins headers in the air. The number of times he's put players in one on one or set them up with good chance from headers has been very high, but he's not the only one with finishing problems and others have failed to take their chances in those situations.

Honestly, while I can accept that he's not worth 35 million, he's a player I'm happy to have on the team now that he's here. Same can't be said about some of our other recent signings.
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Post by shamr9pato Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:39 am

u need master mind like galliani to make bargains.. who would have thought noccerigoat, muntari, yepes, mexes and TS could become such vital signings and that too for just a few millions..
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Post by Forza Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:47 am

Idrisozet wrote:I understand the age thing, but Huntelaar is better than over-rated Podolski, yes Podolski is a good player, but his highly over-rated on this forum
Huntelaar flopped hard at Madrid and Milan although he didn't get much game-time (+ there are various other reasons that I won't go into right now), but my point is that despite all that, the hunter would beast in the EPL as a target man for all those long balls. Think of him as a skilful Peter Crouch.
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