Moggi 'we have found a call that will change everything'

CroInter wrote:

Game that decided the championship, no, refs were not protecting Juve at all.

/thread

yep you want me to find a video or photo from 1950?you kidding me right?i am talking about 2004-2006 the years that we lost our Scudetti.

i already saw this video but i am talking about that damn years.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

CroInter wrote:

Game that decided the championship, no, refs were not protecting Juve at all.

/thread

How is that /thread?

They bumped into eachother

You are saying to me that wasnt a penalty?

Shamal come on, really?

CroInter wrote:And Moratti should be named most intellegent person in the world ever.

For years and years he was being rediculed for being incompetent and loser who cant do anything right, but then Moratti aka Keyzer Soze fckd them all, made angels of Italy aka Juve the biggest villans and send them to Seria B, and now everyone knows he made it all but guess what? No one has any evidence of it

just right he is a loser both him and Inter that the didnt manage to win anything and they had to do Calciopoli and force us to SerieB to start winning.

i saw that Vieri said some things about it some years ago about what you did.

and reply if you are happy about that team that won the Scudetto on papers..

eddy wrote:ok first of all you have to show me something that changed a result not an offside goal when we was winning 3-0.

referees doing mistakes all the time you cant say that all mistakes are on purpose.

also i dont know wich team you support but you think that at 2004-2006 was a better team in Italy than Juve?

also as i said i saw alot more crazy things in Milan games that years.

Inter was best in Italy for years now on paper, but winning titles in last rounds, not always best team wins you know, and apperently Juve needed a push from refs to win.
Why Juve has some many domestic titles but only 2 CL?

eddy wrote:

CroInter wrote:And Moratti should be named most intellegent person in the world ever.

For years and years he was being rediculed for being incompetent and loser who cant do anything right, but then Moratti aka Keyzer Soze fckd them all, made angels of Italy aka Juve the biggest villans and send them to Seria B, and now everyone knows he made it all but guess what? No one has any evidence of it

just right he is a loser both him and Inter that the didnt manage to win anything and they had to do Calciopoli and force us to SerieB to start winning.

i saw that Vieri said some things about it some years ago about what you did.

and reply if you are happy about that team that won the Scudetto on papers..

And i dont even undestand other half of ur post.

Well first of all, Inter and almost every other club involved in Calciopoli needed help from Refs, we were only targeted as we were the best squad overrall. And that is a fact. Funny though, you mention CL, why don't you think of the World Cup? Seeing that the national team is dominated by Juventus players, historically, how have they won those World Cups? By paying Refs? The logic still stands, in that case, Azzurri paid refs as well, with that logic? After Calciopoli, if we had some what the same punishment as Milan did, we could of maybe met them in the finals of 2007? Who knows, all I'm saying, Inter was never better, and because of Calciopoli, you saw this new Inter rise. Without, Inter was nothing.

In 2006

- Buffon = Best Goalkeeper in the World
- Cannavaro = Best Defensemen in the World
- Del Piero = World Class at his Prime

Go to the Past

- Nedved = Ballon D'r
- Zidane says it all

etc...

Refs or no refs, we had the best players at the time. We were jsut that good.

CroInter wrote:

Game that decided the championship, no, refs were not protecting Juve at all.

/thread

Because that's the only major decision that a referee wasn't 100% right in, in the history of football. Inter milan are blatently the only team to have a decision against them right??

About the CL. As you correctly said. The best team does not always win.

2 champions league but how many finals the last years since 1996?

how many times on 8 and 16?

check yourself what Inter did on Europe...

and dont link me this damn picture with this goblin face(Moratti)!

if you are happy about your loser years and you think that referees push Juve i have nothing to say to you.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Well first of all, Inter and almost every other club involved in Calciopoli needed help from Refs, we were only targeted as we were the best squad overrall. And that is a fact. Funny though, you mention CL, why don't you think of the World Cup? Seeing that the national team is dominated by Juventus players, historically, how have they won those World Cups? By paying Refs? The logic still stands, in that case, Azzurri paid refs as well, with that logic? After Calciopoli, if we had some what the same punishment as Milan did, we could of maybe met them in the finals of 2007? Who knows, all I'm saying, Inter was never better, and because of Calciopoli, you saw this new Inter rise. Without, Inter was nothing.

In 2006

- Buffon = Best Goalkeeper in the World
- Cannavaro = Best Defensemen in the World
- Del Piero = World Class at his Prime

Go to the Past

- Nedved = Ballon D'r
- Zidane says it all

etc...

Refs or no refs, we had the best players at the time. We were jsut that good.

+1!exacly!!

eddy wrote:2 champions league but how many finals the last years since 1996?

how many times on 8 and 16?

check yourself what Inter did on Europe...

and dont link me this damn picture with this goblin face(Moratti)!

if you are happy about your loser years and you think that referees push Juve i have nothing to say to you.

How many times in the Finals?

Sure, Cro...

How many times have Italy made into the World Cup finals, once again led mostly by Juventini?

TomJuve wrote:

CroInter wrote:

Game that decided the championship, no, refs were not protecting Juve at all.

/thread

Because that's the only major decision that a referee wasn't 100% right in, in the history of football. Inter milan are blatently the only team to have a decision against them right??

About the CL. As you correctly said. The best team does not always win.

Yes, desicion that if it were correct Inter would get a penalty and Inter with likes of Ronaldo, Recoba, Zamorano, Baggio, Pirlo etc... would win the title.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Well first of all, Inter and almost every other club involved in Calciopoli needed help from Refs, we were only targeted as we were the best squad overrall. And that is a fact. Funny though, you mention CL, why don't you think of the World Cup? Seeing that the national team is dominated by Juventus players, historically, how have they won those World Cups? By paying Refs? The logic still stands, in that case, Azzurri paid refs as well, with that logic? After Calciopoli, if we had some what the same punishment as Milan did, we could of maybe met them in the finals of 2007? Who knows, all I'm saying, Inter was never better, and because of Calciopoli, you saw this new Inter rise. Without, Inter was nothing.

Is that you or Shamal?

Add in the coaches we had... Marcello Lippi regarded one of the best in History. Fabio Cappello a great coach, my oh my, they sure used their sucess by cheating eh? They are all phony.

CroInter wrote:
Is that you or Shamal?

So Cro, has no legit answer then?

The decision could've went either way anyway. It was a collision and couldn't be avoided. What should he have done? Run to the side of Ronaldo and let him through? Probably would've been too late anyway. Infact, I say the ref was almost helping inter milan at the time by not giving juve the free kick anything could've happened. Of course, it worked out in juve's favour due to the amazing team.

And you missed my point. You say Juve were protected by the refs because they never gave a penalty against them for a 50/50. Every team gets good and bad decisions.

For example. Barca being denied an onside goal in the semi-finals against inter that would've put them through.

eddy wrote:2 champions league but how many finals the last years since 1996?

how many times on 8 and 16?

check yourself what Inter did on Europe...

and dont link me this damn picture with this goblin face(Moratti)!

if you are happy about your loser years and you think that referees push Juve i have nothing to say to you.

I dunno i dont remember losers so do tell me how many times have Juve been loser in Cl.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

eddy wrote:2 champions league but how many finals the last years since 1996?

how many times on 8 and 16?

check yourself what Inter did on Europe...

and dont link me this damn picture with this goblin face(Moratti)!

if you are happy about your loser years and you think that referees push Juve i have nothing to say to you.

How many times in the Finals?

Sure, Cro...

How many times have Italy made into the finals, once again led mostly by Juventini?

You keep mentioning NT, so plz do tell me beside 06(where Inter player was most desecive to winning it ) when did Juve dominated in NT and winning something?

How many Scudetti have inter won?

Even including the one which isn't yours.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Add in the coaches we had... Marcello Lippi regarded one of the best in History. Fabio Cappello a great coach, my oh my, they sure used their sucess by cheating eh? They are all phony.

Inter had Lippi too you know. He was so amazing

And i dunno why im even writing with ppl who actually think that penalty in 99 wasnt one

getting bored of inter fans thinking Inter are 100% clean.

im not saying they are fully responsible but atleast aknowledge that Juve were treated abit shitty and the trial and the sentance that was handed to us was unfair and not thought through fully.

Especially after all this other stuff about EVERY team in the league doing the exact same.

But whats more annoying and fishy is, wasnt it inter that gave the 2006 evidence like the phonecalls to the FIGC? because Moratti owns the telephone companys in italy doesnt he? but he only managed to give juve and milan's ect calls but not inters. doesnt that just seem strange?

Just stuff doesnt seem to add up.

You know a few of the juve fans on this forum are easy to get at so you target that rather than give us a logical and fair view of what you think went on.

P.s i have no arguement vs Moggi being fishy with his agency that he owned. so its not like im sticking up for him. Just Juve. what happend to us is unforgivable in my eyes.

Would appriciate a normal decent response without bashing any one or any team, thank you.


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My Reply from CroInter:

As for boi i just glanced at ur post, my reaction:

Inter wiretaped Juve? Inter gave the wiretaps to courts? Moratti owns Telecom?
So Inter wireptapep Juve and Milan and bunch of small clubs, but get this now, Inter wiretapped himself too.
Dude are serious?

My God.


Try and ask a decent question instead of bashing and i get that pile of shit as a reply..

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Well first of all, Inter and almost every other club involved in Calciopoli needed help from Refs, we were only targeted as we were the best squad overrall. And that is a fact. Funny though, you mention CL, why don't you think of the World Cup? Seeing that the national team is dominated by Juventus players, historically, how have they won those World Cups? By paying Refs? The logic still stands, in that case, Azzurri paid refs as well, with that logic? After Calciopoli, if we had some what the same punishment as Milan did, we could of maybe met them in the finals of 2007? Who knows, all I'm saying, Inter was never better, and because of Calciopoli, you saw this new Inter rise. Without, Inter was nothing.

In 2006

- Buffon = Best Goalkeeper in the World
- Cannavaro = Best Defensemen in the World
- Del Piero = World Class at his Prime

Go to the Past

- Nedved = Ballon D'r
- Zidane says it all

etc...

Refs or no refs, we had the best players at the time. We were jsut that good.

lol at meeting Milan in 2007 final, then what lose again??????

1982 = Paolo Rossi, Dino Zoff
1994 = Baggio(Who was a Juventus player at the time)

Juventus historically always dominated with national players



Italy's line up, with eight Juventus players in World Cup 1978. One of them being once again Paolo Rossi.

Marco Tardelli, Antonio Cabrini, Scriea etc...

And the list goes on.

Who did Inter supply?

Giuseppe Meazza? Yes, thanks for providing one player. In which in the 30's you didn't notice that Juventus players were still the ones most called up

How does the NT team Juve any better or inocent, or how did it get in the argument in the first place?

Juve 10 Italians in starting line up. Inter 1
Italy and serie a need juve back up at the top because we can provide so much more at our peak than inter ever will

baresi wrote:

I thought the penalty vs Ronaldo was a 50/50. But watching it in this video now I clearly see...

Ronaldo launched himself into the juventus player and then dived.
I now have alot less respect for him.

1934 FIFA World Cup; Gianpiero Combi, Virginio Rosetta, Luigi Bertolini, Felice Borel IIº, Umberto Caligaris, Giovanni Ferrari, Luis Monti, Raimundo Orsi and Mario Varglien Iº

1938 FIFA World Cup; Alfredo Foni and Pietro Rava

1982 FIFA World Cup; Dino Zoff, Antonio Cabrini, Claudio Gentile, Paolo Rossi, Gaetano Scirea and Marco Tardelli

2006 FIFA World Cup; Fabio Cannavaro, Gianluigi Buffon, Mauro Camoranesi, Alessandro Del Piero and Gianluca Zambrott

baresi wrote:

lol at ibra at 3:30, even he doesnt understand why ref gave a peno.