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Post by MMM Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:58 pm

sciacca wrote:'All' his interviews. You mean two right? Where he claimed him and Conte never saw eye to eye? When Conte made clear that he was a subsitute and not a starter...? I see.


Fine you're right.I don't have all day to argue on it...

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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:09 pm

sciacca wrote:You are all foolish...

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excuse my French and I know you love Italians and all, but PDC has never had any potential, will never have any as well, it is quite well to have people dreaming about the day he will reach Dani Alves'/Abidal's level and what not, but am sorry that day will never appear, Ziegler is and was a better choice than PDC,

Grosso is past it, we will be destroyed this season from the left back side and please remember to refer to this post anyone.....


this is the most outrageous mistake I don't give a f**k whether it was Conte or Marotta's choice, but whichever of them took than decision is and will remain a BIG FOOL!
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Post by MMM Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:11 pm

elmystique wrote:
sciacca wrote:You are all foolish...

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excuse my French and I know you love Italians and all, but PDC has never had any potential, will never have any as well, it is quite well to have people dreaming about the day he will reach Dani Alves' level and what not, but am sorry that day will never appear, Ziegler is and was a better choice than PDC,

Grosso is past it, we will be destroyed this season from the left back side and please remember to refer to this post anyone.....


this is the most outrageous mistake I don't give a f**k whether it was Conte or Marotta's choice, but whichever of them took than decision is and will remain a BIG FOOL!
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Post by Guest Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:12 pm

'Foolish', meaning everyone is being fooled.

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Post by diego28ribas Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:34 am

Arquitecto wrote:Beautiful.

Juve lets go of their most compatent LB and relies on a 5 year past his prime Grosso and PDC who hasn't proven squat to play LB for them.

Absolutely disgusting move.
He wasn't part of Conte's plans, but why don't we have a competent replacement? I mean Grosso? Come on. Freaking unbelievable.
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Post by diego28ribas Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:35 am

elmystique wrote:
sciacca wrote:You are all foolish...

Shocked

excuse my French and I know you love Italians and all, but PDC has never had any potential, will never have any as well, it is quite well to have people dreaming about the day he will reach Dani Alves'/Abidal's level and what not, but am sorry that day will never appear, Ziegler is and was a better choice than PDC,

Grosso is past it, we will be destroyed this season from the left back side and please remember to refer to this post anyone.....


this is the most outrageous mistake I don't give a f**k whether it was Conte or Marotta's choice, but whichever of them took than decision is and will remain a BIG FOOL!
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Post by DeviAngel Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:36 am

estigarribia wil be LWB ...
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Post by Luca Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:45 am

This is why Criscito should have never left.

I think saying that De Ceglie never had any potential is very harsh but he is the most one footed player I've seen and he is made of glass. I don't know if he will be anything better than a solid left back, he won't be world class in my opinion but he can be a good player.

Ziegler is a much, much better option than Grosso can ever be...
Hopefully Esti is the real deal as a LB, God knows he'll be needed.

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Post by S Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:15 am

If not for the freak injury he suffered last season,he would have drawn as much as hype and attention as Abate drew last season...

Not only Estigarrbia ,we also have Vidal if i remember correctly played as a LB for Chile in the world cup so perhaps Conte might have assessed all the available options and then maybe decided to let go of Ziegler Although the move doesnt make much sense...
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:21 am

Niether Esti or Vidal will be used in those positions if not an emergency descion. Esti is an LW, subsitute for Elia, not for PDC. Grosso will get the nod ahead of both Vidal and Esti. In fact, for now... Vidal will be more of an option for CB rather than LB. He's done it twice vs France and Spain and has done a good job at it.


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Post by S Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:27 am

Vidal at leftback might well be an emergency option but i see him having more of a role at CM since in my opinion,he's the ideal partner to Pirlo..

Would be interesting to see what Conte has in mind anyways..
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:33 am

I mean't to say LB, so my mistake, Not LW for Vidal. Of course he will play more as a CM, but he may very well end up in the CB position as well. According to reports and what he has done on the internaitonal level.

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Post by donttreadonred Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:25 pm

elmystique wrote:
sciacca wrote:You are all foolish...

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excuse my French and I know you love Italians and all, but PDC has never had any potential, will never have any as well, it is quite well to have people dreaming about the day he will reach Dani Alves'/Abidal's level and what not, but am sorry that day will never appear, Ziegler is and was a better choice than PDC,

Grosso is past it, we will be destroyed this season from the left back side and please remember to refer to this post anyone.....


this is the most outrageous mistake I don't give a f**k whether it was Conte or Marotta's choice, but whichever of them took than decision is and will remain a BIG FOOL!

Thumbs up Well said. I agree.

The one thing that could make this understandable (notice that I did not say wise/smart/thought-through) is if PDC has seriously impressed during training and preseason. I can't say that I have personally seen this development (this is potentially because I haven't been able to see most of the preseason matches Crying or Very sad ). In any case, relying on Grosso will at best leave the left side of our defense inconsistent from game to game. I don't care whose decision this was; it still seems like a poor managerial move. Only time will tell if Juve's left side will be as weak as we all seem to think it will be.
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Post by pasquale22 Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:43 pm

PDC> Ziegler.

He will have a great season 100% sure of it!!!
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Post by Luca Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:19 pm

You can't be 100% sure of it though, so there is no reason to take your word for it.
That goes double for PDC>Ziegler, although I agree it is not because you used the magic ">" sign....

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