The next epic footballing duo.
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The next epic footballing duo.
Messi - Fabregas. It's like they have been playing together all their life.
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yup....I look forward to seeing many years of that partnership
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They did play together for awhile in La Masia

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Re: The next epic footballing duo.
Weirdly enough Fab was the 9 and Messi the 10. One would figure they would both be best in reverse.
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Well, that's the genius of it. Total Surprise.BarrileteCosmico wrote:Weirdly enough Fab was the 9 and Messi the 10. One would figure they would both be best in reverse.
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What an epic gif this is.


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Lionel Messi wrote:They did play together for awhile in La Masia![]()
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Weirdly enough Fab was the 9 and Messi the 10. One would figure they would both be best in reverse.
Yes and no.
Messi was still the false 9, its just to play with a false 9 you cant have a tradional 10. Zonalmarking called it, needing a false 10, which Cesc is. He is like Mole said in a mocking way, Spanish Lampard. Cesc makes runs into the box away from the ball, times them well and can finish. So when Messi is doing his false 9 and dropping deep, Cesc has the ability of a "false 10" and he runs into that space in on goal.
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Messi is false 9 - looks like central foward, but he is G.O.D.
Fabregas is false 10 - looks like attacking midfielder - but he is central foward
Villa is false 11 - looks like winger, but he is left striker
Pedro is false 7 - looks like winger, but he is right striker
Alves is false 2 - looks like right back, but he is winger
Valdes is false 1 - looks like keeper, but he is sweeper
Busquets is false 6 - looks like defensive midfielder, but he is sweeper and playmaker
Pique is false 5 - looks like central back, but he is central foward LOL
etc etc... xD
Fabregas is false 10 - looks like attacking midfielder - but he is central foward
Villa is false 11 - looks like winger, but he is left striker
Pedro is false 7 - looks like winger, but he is right striker
Alves is false 2 - looks like right back, but he is winger
Valdes is false 1 - looks like keeper, but he is sweeper
Busquets is false 6 - looks like defensive midfielder, but he is sweeper and playmaker
Pique is false 5 - looks like central back, but he is central foward LOL
etc etc... xD
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The Franchise wrote:BarrileteCosmico wrote:Weirdly enough Fab was the 9 and Messi the 10. One would figure they would both be best in reverse.
Yes and no.
Messi was still the false 9, its just to play with a false 9 you cant have a tradional 10. Zonalmarking called it, needing a false 10, which Cesc is. He is like Mole said in a mocking way, Spanish Lampard. Cesc makes runs into the box away from the ball, times them well and can finish. So when Messi is doing his false 9 and dropping deep, Cesc has the ability of a "false 10" and he runs into that space in on goal.
Interesting. It seemed to me that Messi made far less runs into the box than he usually does for Barca and that this was mainly due to Cesc's presence in front of him, relegating him to mostly playmaking, so I just assumed a 9 and 10 relationship - reinforced by the comments made by the commentators. But what you're saying makes more sense. Is there a precedent for this "false 10"?
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:The Franchise wrote:BarrileteCosmico wrote:Weirdly enough Fab was the 9 and Messi the 10. One would figure they would both be best in reverse.
Yes and no.
Messi was still the false 9, its just to play with a false 9 you cant have a tradional 10. Zonalmarking called it, needing a false 10, which Cesc is. He is like Mole said in a mocking way, Spanish Lampard. Cesc makes runs into the box away from the ball, times them well and can finish. So when Messi is doing his false 9 and dropping deep, Cesc has the ability of a "false 10" and he runs into that space in on goal.
Interesting. It seemed to me that Messi made far less runs into the box than he usually does for Barca and that this was mainly due to Cesc's presence in front of him, relegating him to mostly playmaking, so I just assumed a 9 and 10 relationship - reinforced by the comments made by the commentators. But what you're saying makes more sense. Is there a precedent for this "false 10"?
Well I think Messi came deep, leaving the space he usually does, Cesc took that space with his runs therefore Messi didnt have to. If Cesc wasnt there, Messi would of played differently.
Precedent for a false 10? I am not sure.
But it was said that, and correctly, for a false 9 to work, the target is to come deep and overload midfield and playmake. For this to happen, of course you cant have a normal number 10 because they would do this job. We have 2 CMs in Xavi and Iniesta who dont play in between the lines permanently like a number 10 and therefore that situation wont occur.
However, to play with 4 mids like we did, the space is taken up so if Messi is to do what he usually does, someone has to play in front of him (in effect making Messi a normal number 10) or behind him and make off balls runs into that space, which Cesc did do.
I dont remember it ever being done before.
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El Pipita wrote:Why are you suprised ? they have Farca DNA
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Messi was still the false 9, its just to play with a false 9 you cant have a tradional 10. Zonalmarking called it, needing a false 10, which Cesc is. He is like Mole said in a mocking way, Spanish Lampard. Cesc makes runs into the box away from the ball, times them well and can finish. So when Messi is doing his false 9 and dropping deep, Cesc has the ability of a "false 10" and he runs into that space in on goal.
Brilliant explanation !!!
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messixaviesta wrote:El Pipita wrote:Why are you suprised ? they have Farca DNA
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This post has been posted when the thread was on general section. i would never insult Barca in their own section. however if you feel disgusted by my post you can ask mods to delete it.
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Yeah, this topic was orignally in the general and was moved here.
That wasnt posted while in this section.
If we want it deleted then I will do it, but I am not personally bothered by it. Waters off a ducks back at this point.
That wasnt posted while in this section.
If we want it deleted then I will do it, but I am not personally bothered by it. Waters off a ducks back at this point.
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The Franchise wrote:Waters off a ducks back.
wow
what does that mean? :?:
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It means he's immune to it - I think.
Edit: confirmed! http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/be+water+off+a+duck%27s+back
Edit: confirmed! http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/be+water+off+a+duck%27s+back
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