Re: Ricardo Kaka

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:00 pm

Surag wrote:
DiMaria is a headless chicken

You didn't say those words but implied it, saves space on my stupid phone when i cut it short Laughing

Well don't know where people got that from because DiMaria is not a headless chicken, and has never been. he is a constant nuisance to opposition defender/goalies because he knows when to press and when to let it go. When he dribbled last season he was making the wrong decisions however this season he has has had a complete revamp in that department he doesn't dribble unncessarily anymore and passes sideways alot more like everybody wanted him to do, just look at his passing percentage this season think you will struggle to find a game where he has had less than 80/75% last season he was hovering over 50%, think he is improving game by game

A perfect example of a headless chicken is Lass, no destination whatsoever just runs around banging into players sometimes even his own

by Die Borussen Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:00 pm

no im saying thats a major reason to at least not blame mou entirely for not seeing sahin as one of the key players of the team for the time being

obviously it was an answer of mine to classyking cause he said mou failed with sahin, & with me stating that sahin's injury played a significant role..

also surag regarding my statement i dont need to be a trainer to validate it, obviously you didnt understud my point..
not surprised Laughing

by Die Borussen Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:03 pm

di maria is not a headless chicken he is just not mature enough

you only need to look the killer passes he makes and some of his combinations with the team
just cause he "overdoes" it sometimes doesnt mean he is what you describe him to be

by S Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:07 pm

I am not saying Di Maria is totally a 'brainless' player but comes across as one at times..

But i really dont understand how Kaka is a headless chicken..However bad he may be right now thats just utter disrespect to a former Ballon D'or winner.He dint win it by fluke you know ,he used his brains for it obviously.He's a very intelligent player.
Injuries have destroyed his form and confidence over the years but calling him a 'headless chicken' really sounds stupid with all due respect.

by the xcx Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:09 pm

People hatin on Di Maria Laughing

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:12 pm

Kaka is not a headless chicken by any mean, simply because he is so lazy.

However i wouldn't hesitate calling him very selfish, i know he has been out for long and wants a goal but that doesn't mean he should try to get one at the others expense, we have been lucky he has been subbed into games we have already won(bar Barca) and against not the best teams so we haven't had to pay for it. But the guy and his boyfriend Ronaldo should stop making our games become "get Kaka a goal" games. Its no fun having Benz just walking around in the penalty box while Kaka tries to get himself a goal

by Roundsquare Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:14 pm

BREAKING NEWS: MARCELO suffered ankle injury during training and Will Miss Up To Three Months

by Le Samourai Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:15 pm

Well.

He was literally the worst dribbler in La Liga for a couple years. Statistically.. aesthetically...all that. He would go in try the same BS move and either get blocked or win a corner.

He's stopped doing that now so perhaps headless chicken doesn't perfectly encapsulate what Kaka has been for us for a while now.

Perhaps if we delete the "Headless" from the phrase.

We're left with "Chicken"

That seems about right.

by Die Borussen Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:16 pm

wait for it

hala madrid will attack you anytime soon Very Happy

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:20 pm

I think he meant Kaka, or hope so at least

Otherwise Gtfo Josh, Mario Suarez>>>>>Camacho

by S Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:20 pm

Le Samourai wrote:He was literally the worst dribbler in La Liga for a couple years. Statistically.. aesthetically...all that. He would go in try the same BS move and either get blocked or win a corner.

And that is not because he doesnt have any other trick up his sleeve but like Hala said its maybe cuz he's being selfish in those instances(Di Maria on the other hand seems like that kind of a player in my opinion),maybe he is desperate to prove himself at Madrid and do what what he once was famous for,he was trying too hard in other words.Unfortunately it dint work out that way.But really not many would argue that injuries ruined his career at Madrid in turn losing his confidence as well.

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:23 pm

DiMaria has always been in the top 5 dribblers in LaLiga since he came, Last season he was in the top 7 literally until he came back from his injury(not even kidding) and was first in the assist chart until 4 games AFTER he came back, so thats not a suitable description for him tho

by Roundsquare Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:24 pm

Le Samourai wrote:Well.

He was literally the worst dribbler in La Liga for a couple years. Statistically.. aesthetically...all that. He would go in try the same BS move and either get blocked or win a corner.

He's stopped doing that now so perhaps headless chicken doesn't perfectly encapsulate what Kaka has been for us for a while now.

Perhaps if we delete the "Headless" from the phrase.

We're left with "Chicken"

That seems about right.

Are you describing Kaka above? I hope not because that is a clear misrepresentation, both Ozil and Di Maria have made more turn overs than Kaka every season.

by S Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:25 pm

I have seen many a times Di Maria dribbling past defenders but with really no end product so that statement doesnt really mean anything.

by Roundsquare Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:26 pm

KAKa is not a selfish player he is a team player. Are you people smoking something.

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:27 pm

Kaka doesn't play much for us

For example against Bayern last season, i think he had an utter disgrace game losing the ball all the time, and there are other games where he would be afraid to go into 50/50 tackles or just refuse to track back. Thats his problem imho. He is good tho no doubt, but not good enough to start i am afraid

by Roundsquare Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:28 pm

Surag wrote:I have seen many a times Di Maria dribbling past defenders but with really no end product so that statement doesnt really mean anything.

Di Maria as talented as he is can be really brainless he dribbles without purpose too many times

by Le Samourai Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:29 pm

I don't want to criticize him Surag...as a I said...right now he's playing with some heart and I respect that because there's been alot of mutual disrespect between him and the club.

At least he wants to be here.

But don't criticize Di maria who has worked his ass off more than any other player in this team for the last 2 years and been as productive as any other just to prob him up.

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:29 pm

Surag wrote:I have seen many a times Di Maria dribbling past defenders but with really no end product so that statement doesnt really mean anything.

If he had Marcelo assisting him on his side he would actually find someone to pass to smfh, Arbeloa attacks worse than Iker aka not at all

I would praise DiMaria for not complaining of lack of support, he has to do everything on his own on his side, and most of the times there is nobody in the box because benzema likes to drift out.

by S Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:30 pm

Kaka isnt selfish but what we can agree on is he tries too hard at times.He is just desperate to prove himself at Madrid ,he's a player with great self esteem otherwise he would've probably wanted to leave already maybe even 1 or 2 years ago.

by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:32 pm

Surag wrote:Kaka isnt selfish but what we can agree on is he tries too hard at times.He is just desperate to prove himself at Madrid otherwise he would've probably wanted to leave already maybe even 1 or 2 years ago.

Better

I agree, i think he tries too hard to prove himself and he thinks the only way to do that is to score, i mean this season he has provided some goals yet he is still searching for his own, he doesn't really need to do that imho, its harming our attack when he and Ronaldo neglect the other guys to try and get him his goal

by Le Samourai Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:34 pm

Benzema is definitely the most neglected member of our attack Hala. Don't even go down that road.

by Roundsquare Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:36 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Kaka doesn't play much for us

For example against Bayern last season, i think he had an utter disgrace game losing the ball all the time, and there are other games where he would be afraid to go into 50/50 tackles or just refuse to track back. Thats his problem imho. He is good tho no doubt, but not good enough to start i am afraid

Kaka was thrown into the Bayern match after missing 5 matches and was expected to change the game in the dying minutes. That sort of pressure will make any player who has missed a lot of football very nervous causing him to make few poor touches.

Di Maria wasn't any better in those two legs, in fact he played worse than Kaka, turning over possession even in dangerous positions, he was clearly not match fit to play yet Mou trusted him to start ahead of Kaka who 5 matches earlier was on fire, Mou didn't let Kaka build upon his confidence instead he replaced the Brazilian with Di Maria who was returning from an injury at the time.

BY THE WAY MARCELO HAS BEEN INJURED IN TRAINING AND WILL MISS UP TO 3 MONTHS OF FOOTBALL

by Die Borussen Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:39 pm

there you go, coentrao the savior

time for halamadrid to fall in love with cacktraww

by Le Samourai Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:39 pm

Against Bayern.

Here's my problem....you watch Ronaldo miss a penalty...then you come back and take the exact same penalty.

Have you no sense?

Also...Coentrao is injured.

by Die Borussen Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:41 pm

coentrao's injury is temporary he might even play the game against ireland in few days

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