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Post by pasquale22 Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:07 pm

1) Lich needs to improve his crossing if he wants to make his hard work more effective. Krasic as well needs to improve his crossing

2) Vucinic and Del Piero have a good understanding of each other (noticed this in the last few games as well)

3) PDC hasnt had a bad game yet this pre season including today.. lets give this guy some credit, one of my fav's. welcome back Paolo
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Post by DeviAngel Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:14 pm

1) We need to keep Pasquato
2) Chielini is off form
3) Quagliarella needs to be played when we need pace from the CF matri is slower than him
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Post by Yeezus Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:17 pm

Vidal can't make much of a contribution as a LW, as shown today, and in CA against Venezuela. He just doesn't like surging forward..

Ideal spots for him:

-LB, played it well in the WC.
-CDM
-CM
-AM

-And when he's frustrated, best give him the ball..

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Post by DeviAngel Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:19 pm

Andres Iniesta wrote:Vidal can't make much of a contribution as a LW, as shown today, and in CA against Venezuela. He just doesn't like surging forward..

Ideal spots for him:

-LB, played it well in the WC.
-CDM
-CM
-AM

-And when he's frustrated, best give him the ball..

so he can do alla messi Very Happy ?
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Post by Yeezus Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:24 pm

Well, yes if he is playing as AM.

He works miracles when pissed for us (but thats if he's in an advanced role ofc)..

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Post by DeviAngel Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:26 pm

Andres Iniesta wrote:Well, yes if he is playing as AM.

He works miracles when pissed for us (but thats if he's in an advanced role ofc)..

ok than I will tell conte to slap him few times b4 the game and put him as AM lol Very Happy
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Post by zarola Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:46 pm

Only 5 Juventus players defended... your back four and Marchisio.
Pasquato is pretty good.
Krasic is too selfish.
Your team is too new and dont understand each others movements yet.

Btw, was it just me... or was it a really boring game?
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Post by DeviAngel Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:49 pm

zarola wrote:Only 5 Juventus players defended... your back four and Marchisio.
Pasquato is pretty good.
Krasic is too selfish.
Your team is too new and dont understand each others movements yet.

Btw, was it just me... or was it a really boring game?

It was to boring game apart from 2 wonder goals ...nothing else happened ...teams were like ...dunno ...

and the most important thing I've noticed is this team is not gelled yet ...more games more games pls
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Post by Ganso Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:51 pm

milan without pato/ibra/binho=boring.
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Post by Luca Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:52 pm

1) Juventus defends horribly, they have no one leading them, at times they look like headless chickens chasing the ball and a skilled attacker (i.e Cassano) can make them look foolish

2) Pirlo is the engine

3) Vucinic's link up play is brilliant

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Post by DeviAngel Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:56 pm

Luca wrote:1) Juventus defends horribly, they have no one leading them, at times they look like headless chickens chasing the ball and a skilled attacker (i.e Cassano) can make them look foolish

2) Pirlo is the engine

3) Vucinic's link up play is brilliant

I dare to say and I know I am going to be flamed ...but with storari our defense looks more secure ... Buffon is not on his top form again today he missed the dive lol he vided in wrong direction and lich cut off abate I think ...Buffon would never do that in form
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:57 pm

I love gigi but I agree he's looking poor now. The problem is he needs game time to recover.
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Post by Luca Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:00 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Luca wrote:1) Juventus defends horribly, they have no one leading them, at times they look like headless chickens chasing the ball and a skilled attacker (i.e Cassano) can make them look foolish

2) Pirlo is the engine

3) Vucinic's link up play is brilliant

I dare to say and I know I am going to be flamed ...but with storari our defense looks more secure ... Buffon is not on his top form again today he missed the dive lol he vided in wrong direction and lich cut off abate I think ...Buffon would never do that in form

Has nothing to do with the keeper
Juventus as a unit defend extremely poorly
They are not united, they are 4 good individual players but as a defensive line they suck at this point
Flame me but the defensive record in the past 2 years don't lie and the type of goals that Juventus allow is no lie either

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Post by DeviAngel Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:02 pm

Luca wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Luca wrote:1) Juventus defends horribly, they have no one leading them, at times they look like headless chickens chasing the ball and a skilled attacker (i.e Cassano) can make them look foolish

2) Pirlo is the engine

3) Vucinic's link up play is brilliant

I dare to say and I know I am going to be flamed ...but with storari our defense looks more secure ... Buffon is not on his top form again today he missed the dive lol he vided in wrong direction and lich cut off abate I think ...Buffon would never do that in form

Has nothing to do with the keeper
Juventus as a unit defend extremely poorly
They are not united, they are 4 good individual players but as a defensive line they suck at this point
Flame me but the defensive record in the past 2 years don't lie and the type of goals that Juventus allow is no lie either

true

common Olof Melberg,Chielini , Molinaro, grygera was our best defense ...ffs lol that is done when u have experienced team builder like ranieri
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Post by Luca Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:13 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Luca wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Luca wrote:1) Juventus defends horribly, they have no one leading them, at times they look like headless chickens chasing the ball and a skilled attacker (i.e Cassano) can make them look foolish

2) Pirlo is the engine

3) Vucinic's link up play is brilliant

I dare to say and I know I am going to be flamed ...but with storari our defense looks more secure ... Buffon is not on his top form again today he missed the dive lol he vided in wrong direction and lich cut off abate I think ...Buffon would never do that in form

Has nothing to do with the keeper
Juventus as a unit defend extremely poorly
They are not united, they are 4 good individual players but as a defensive line they suck at this point
Flame me but the defensive record in the past 2 years don't lie and the type of goals that Juventus allow is no lie either

true

common Olof Melberg,Chielini , Molinaro, grygera was our best defense ...ffs lol that is done when u have experienced team builder like ranieri

LOL, unfortunately that is true...
However, some of the blame must go to the midfield
Pirlo in a 4-2-4 = thin defensively

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Post by Guest Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:19 pm

1) The midfield is too weak, we can't depend on one CM and one Regista. We need atleast three midfielders in which this case, a 4-2-4 is not the right way to go. In doing so, a 4-3-3 is a must. The midfield at time's were not there, and it seemed that we were 6 vs 4...

2) We need to keep Pasquato, but at the same time it's a must to get at least one more CB and a quality LW, who will be able to track back. A bit more quality is needed. Including a vice for Pirlo.

3) Vidal is a dynamic player, although playing as a defensive winger he's better off playing in CM with both Marchisio and Pirlo. Marchisio sure seems to be the ideal CM Partner for Pirlo and hopefully Vidal will join in. Pirlo is certaintly a God, who just needs more support, but at the same time can't defend, but is in great shape.

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Post by Guest Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:22 pm

zarola wrote:Only 5 Juventus players defended... your back four and Marchisio.
Pasquato is pretty good.
Krasic is too selfish.
Your team is too new and dont understand each others movements yet.

Btw, was it just me... or was it a really boring game?

Thank you for making my point, Vidal in fact was not one of them as he did break up some plays, he was hardly doing it. Marchisio did most of the work in which he did good to be honest.

Pasquato was really good and agreed, did better than Vidal on the wing which is no surprise.

Krasic is not selfish, as he has great runs, but his finishing is poor, though he is lazy when it comes to tracking back and Lichstiener had to do some of his dirty work.

Yes it was a boring game, but it was for the useless trophy...

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Post by Guest Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:23 pm

TomJuve wrote:I love gigi but I agree he's looking poor now. The problem is he needs game time to recover.

The two goals scored on Buffon were not his fault at all. He made a couple of fantastic saves, one of them being at the end when he stopped Cassano's shot. So to claim he is in poor form, is highly false.

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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:08 am

1) A 4-3-3 is no longer an option, it is the only option.

2) A LW is not needed; Pasquato has proven himself in every pre-season game. To deny him a chance would be to kill his motivation and career.

3) Angelo Ogbonna is needed to give competition to Bonucci to make him play well, pressure him to do well.
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