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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:52 pm

I never claimed to care about it at all, I said quite a few times it was just a preseason semi-friendly, but it seems like it was a bit more to people like Crimson.

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Post by Sushi Master Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:52 pm

Messi shits all over Ronaldo. Even if Ronaldo is a more "complete" player. I don't buy that argument at all, though. He may be more complete on paper, as in heads better, has more muscles and possesses a vagina, but he's missing one key element: teamwork.

Ronaldo may score 50 goals for all I care, but long term the team is what's important. I've never seen him launch those pinpoint passes, crosses or just general team play the way Messi does and just for that Messi's better.
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Post by Doc Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:53 pm

H.A (a poster) pointed this out 2 weeks ago....

goal.com owners are PERFORM, as seen from there about page: goal.com/en/contact/about

When you go to PERFORM's website you can checkout there partners, surprise surprise one of them is barcelona: performgroup.co.uk/FootballCaseStudies

Its there only spanish team partner.

If you ever wondered why they're so biased to them here is your answer. If you check out there other partners you will also see how connected they are, they could force an opinion as a fact if they want.


So that may explain why that article is, well, how it is really...
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Post by izzy Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:54 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:I never claimed to care about it at all, I said quite a few times it was just a preseason semi-friendly, but it seems like it was a bit more to people like Crimson.

your sig and avatar say different.

This game meant the world to you, didn't it? bounce
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:55 pm

izzy26 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:I never claimed to care about it at all, I said quite a few times it was just a preseason semi-friendly, but it seems like it was a bit more to people like Crimson.

your sig and avatar say different.

This game meant the world to you, didn't it? bounce
It sure did tongue

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:56 pm

Sushi Master wrote:Messi shits all over Ronaldo. Even if Ronaldo is a more "complete" player. I don't buy that argument at all, though. He may be more complete on paper, as in heads better, has more muscles and possesses a vagina, but he's missing one key element: teamwork.

Ronaldo may score 50 goals for all I care, but long term the team is what's important. I've never seen him launch those pinpoint passes, crosses or just general team play the way Messi does and just for that Messi's better.
jesus man, be cautious and don't get banned silent

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Post by cyberman Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:05 pm

look at this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxG6OaQUCgI

Only player near the ref is a couldnt give a wes brown...

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Post by Sushi Master Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:06 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:Messi shits all over Ronaldo. Even if Ronaldo is a more "complete" player. I don't buy that argument at all, though. He may be more complete on paper, as in heads better, has more muscles and possesses a vagina, but he's missing one key element: teamwork.

Ronaldo may score 50 goals for all I care, but long term the team is what's important. I've never seen him launch those pinpoint passes, crosses or just general team play the way Messi does and just for that Messi's better.
jesus man, be cautious and don't get banned silent
The irony Very Happy

Seriously, Ronaldo is a cracking player, no doubt. But he needs to learn to put himself aside and work for the team. I'd put Madrid at Barca level if he learned to do that.
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Post by Vibe Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:07 pm

EPL is humble and respectful :coffee:
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:17 pm

Sushi Master wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:Messi shits all over Ronaldo. Even if Ronaldo is a more "complete" player. I don't buy that argument at all, though. He may be more complete on paper, as in heads better, has more muscles and possesses a vagina, but he's missing one key element: teamwork.

Ronaldo may score 50 goals for all I care, but long term the team is what's important. I've never seen him launch those pinpoint passes, crosses or just general team play the way Messi does and just for that Messi's better.
jesus man, be cautious and don't get banned silent
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Seriously, Ronaldo is a cracking player, no doubt. But he needs to learn to put himself aside and work for the team. I'd put Madrid at Barca level if he learned to do that.
Just saying because of your warning level Very Happy

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Post by ToEy Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:19 pm

Crimson wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
Crimson wrote:And yet pple easily forget Villa hitting Ozil for no reason at all and Xavi's tackle on Coentrao.....

Very easy to point fingers and all that......
Ozil stomped on Cesc, Villa stood up for Cesc and gave him what he deserves, a good clean hit to the face.

Sure he did .... :coffee:

Point is Barcelona dish out as much as they get not to mention they dive and cry more than any other club on the planet.

It's funny how many Madrid fans I've seen congratulate Barcelona, but all I've seen from Barcelona fans is cry cry cry

FFS grow up and get a grip, your club is not holier than thou ffs

The most incorrect sentence in this thread...Barca dished out as much as they get? The amount Barca dish out in 6 classicos cannot even match what they get in the Champions League 1st leg...

Lets put it this way, Barca dives more, Madrid injure more people. Diving vs Trying to Injure...choose which is the greater evil, I chose mine

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Post by football_genius Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:20 pm

one incident an all of a sudden c ronaldo is an angel and messi is the bad one. have a thorough look a ronaldo's career on the field. it will show you how much sportsmanship and professionalism he lacks.

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Post by ToEy Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:21 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
sportsczy wrote:Ummm... Benfica are arch-rivals of Porto. You do realize this, correct?
That's why I pointed it out, makes no sense to me.

Doesn't matter, he is portugese, mou and cr7 are portugese, hence his extreme bias.

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Post by ToEy Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:23 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:Mou isn't destroying Spanish Football.

He is however making a laughing stock out of himself and his own club.

Jealousy makes people lose the plot it seems.

I disagree...he is not only destroying Spanish Football, he is destroying football itself. He is trying to change Football into MMA

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Post by Lex Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:24 pm

Lex wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:it was unprofessional and scummy to put your hands on someone like that as a professional
Indeed
harhar11 wrote:Jesus christ! how many times are you going to use that picture?
I've only used it once?

Just for you, here's a more recent example

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I guess Abidal thought RVP was trying to provoke the Barca fans?
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Post by Doc Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:25 pm

1st jealously and now Mourinho coaches the entire world of football with the intention of turning it into a fighting competition. Anymore silly remarks to be added?!
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Post by ToEy Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:25 pm

Whats this move in MMA, pokeaboo and run?

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Post by ToEy Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:26 pm

Doc wrote:1st jealously and now Mourinho coaches the entire world of football with the intention of turning it into a fighting competition. Anymore silly remarks to be added?!

Both counts are true, except he doesn't coach the whole world

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Post by cyberman Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:27 pm

Has Ronaldo ever crowded a ref? Does he bitch about getting kicked
He was standing well away and looking on in disguist at the antics of the players in the so called biggest game in the world.
does Ronaldo exaggerate a fall? not as much these days.
Messi showed more petulance last night than ive seen from CR7 in a long time

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:28 pm

It's different with players, because they're playing a contact sport so while theyre playing there is going to be a certain degree of contact already, but for a man of Mourinho's stature to do that to Tito seemingly unprovoked is just unprofessional and childish. Although I agree I suppose if you're trying to make a point that Abidal shouldn't be putting his hands around someones neck.

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:29 pm

Mourinho is a brilliant manager (probably the best), but a complete a$$hole... how is this statement news? lol.

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Post by guest7 Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:30 pm

He is not jealous. He would have never joined Real Madrid if he even feared them or was jealous of them. In fact, he is kind of brave for even going to a team that hasn't even got to the semis in 7 years. Let's not forget how dominated the team has been by Barca.

He knew what he got in to. The jealous and "fears" Barca myth needs to die
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Post by Lex Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:32 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:It's different with players, because they're playing a contact sport so while theyre playing there is going to be a certain degree of contact already
Right right, so you're allowed to choke out your opponent because it's a contact sport?
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Post by izzy Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:32 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:It's different with players, because they're playing a contact sport so while theyre playing there is going to be a certain degree of contact already, but for a man of Mourinho's stature to do that to Tito seemingly unprovoked is just unprofessional and childish. Although I agree I suppose if you're trying to make a point that Abidal shouldn't be putting his hands around someones neck.

Thanks for the part in red.

Using this in all football arguements. :coffee:
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:33 pm

Mou jealous? That is stupid lol. He's just an a$$hole.

The Classicos are now breathtaking to watch (last two games) as both teams are attacking full board. Regarding the hard fouls: The more Barca dive, the harder Madrid are going to tackle... that's plain and simple. I completely agree with this policy btw. Marcelo went way overboard; but that had nothing to do with Mou.

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Post by ToEy Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:36 pm

sportsczy wrote:Mou jealous? That is stupid lol. He's just an a$$hole.

The Classicos are now breathtaking to watch (last two games) as both teams are attacking full board. Regarding the hard fouls: The more Barca dive, the harder Madrid are going to tackle... that's plain and simple. I completely agree with this policy btw. Marcelo went way overboard; but that had nothing to do with Mou.

Dude it should be the other way round. Take Barca and Real out of the equation 1st.

How would one tackle harder because the other party dives more? Except for getting angry there is no other reason to tackle harder

However, one would dive more because the other party tackle harder, because they can use that as a deterent to prevent those hard tackles

Hence, lesser hard tackles, barca will dive less...simple as that

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