Re: Newcastle United FC

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:42 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:I hear Nolan could be leaving and Barton is not being offered a contract. Is this true Mole?

Nolan has rejected a new contract and Barton wont be offered one. Barton's replacement has already been take care of but Nolan is a worry i dont want our english spine to be completely ripped apart.

So Nolan will probably be offered a better contract?

If he lowers his demands probably but there is noway to know at this moment. It seem's like he wants a 5 year contract and the club are not willing to go that far.

by magpie Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:24 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:I hear Nolan could be leaving and Barton is not being offered a contract. Is this true Mole?

Nolan has rejected a new contract and Barton wont be offered one. Barton's replacement has already been take care of but Nolan is a worry i dont want our english spine to be completely ripped apart.

So Nolan will probably be offered a better contract?

If he lowers his demands probably but there is noway to know at this moment. It seem's like he wants a 5 year contract and the club are not willing to go that far.

Hopefully Nolan and management are smart enough to meet in the middle. I know five years can be long, but he's 28. It is not like he is 35 and asking for five years.

by Guest Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:26 pm

Times says Enrique will stay in Newcastle and leave on a bosman next season

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:37 pm

Sepi wrote:Times says Enrique will stay in Newcastle and leave on a bosman next season

by BeautifulGame Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:58 am

Sepi wrote:Times says Enrique will stay in Newcastle and leave on a bosman next season

Porbably trying putting pressure on Ashley to lower the asking price . I would bet my house that Ashley wont let someone valuable like Enrique leave on free transfer .

by magpie Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:19 pm

BeautifulGame wrote:
Sepi wrote:Times says Enrique will stay in Newcastle and leave on a bosman next season

Porbably trying putting pressure on Ashley to lower the asking price . I would bet my house that Ashley wont let someone valuable like Enrique leave on free transfer .

Probably. Ashley is probably up to no good, and it seems all a decent chunk of our players want to jump ship. I wonder if Pardew has anything with that.

by BeautifulGame Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:35 pm

magpie wrote:
BeautifulGame wrote:
Sepi wrote:Times says Enrique will stay in Newcastle and leave on a bosman next season

Porbably trying putting pressure on Ashley to lower the asking price . I would bet my house that Ashley wont let someone valuable like Enrique leave on free transfer .
Probably. Ashley is probably up to no good, and it seems all a decent chunk of our players want to jump ship. I wonder if Pardew has anything with that.

To be honest from an outsider point of view selling Barton and buying a decent young midfielder like Cabaye makes sense IMO . Particularly if u are not going to buy target man striker like Carroll Barton,s effectiveness is reduced to a large extent .

Nolan i agree shouldnt be let go but Enrique he has no choice .

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:33 pm

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20110610/cabaye-signs-on-at-st-james_2281670_2374676

Finally official on a 5 year deal

GET INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

by TheRedStag Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:57 am

Newcastle reject bid made for Kevin Nolan from West Ham

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:21 pm

MattMcKenzie MattMcKenzie
by MsiDouglas
In tomorrow's Sunday Sun: more exciting #nufc transfer news from @MsiDouglas & excellent feature on the drain of North East players to #LFC

Just tweeted by Matt McKenzie from the Sunday Sun if the excited transfer news is as exciting as he says i will post here aswell as the feature on North East players to LFC.

Someone just posted this on Newcastle-online.org forum

Well for the price of a Henderson, we have got a:

Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba*, Gosling, Best, Simpson, Williamson.

With around £5m left to stick on black.

*If he does sign.

:lol!:

by BeautifulGame Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:57 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:MattMcKenzie MattMcKenzie
by MsiDouglas
In tomorrow's Sunday Sun: more exciting #nufc transfer news from @MsiDouglas & excellent feature on the drain of North East players to #LFC

Just tweeted by Matt McKenzie from the Sunday Sun if the excited transfer news is as exciting as he says i will post here aswell as the feature on North East players to LFC.

Someone just posted this on Newcastle-online.org forum

Well for the price of a Henderson, we have got a:

Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba*, Gosling, Best, Simpson, Williamson.

With around £5m left to stick on black.

*If he does sign.

:lol!:

Enrique to Liverpool bounce

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:00 pm

BeautifulGame wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:MattMcKenzie MattMcKenzie
by MsiDouglas
In tomorrow's Sunday Sun: more exciting #nufc transfer news from @MsiDouglas & excellent feature on the drain of North East players to #LFC

Just tweeted by Matt McKenzie from the Sunday Sun if the excited transfer news is as exciting as he says i will post here aswell as the feature on North East players to LFC.

Someone just posted this on Newcastle-online.org forum

Well for the price of a Henderson, we have got a:

Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Ba*, Gosling, Best, Simpson, Williamson.

With around £5m left to stick on black.

*If he does sign.

:lol!:

Enrique to Liverpool

I think it means he's going to do an editorial type piece on North East players moving to LFC like Carroll , Henderson etc etc but yes it may have some Enrique news aswell.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:46 am

http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/06/12/neil-taylor-will-not-be-jose-enrique-replacement-79310-28862592/

Great news.

http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/06/12/nufc-new-boy-yohan-cabaye-in-plea-to-gervinho-79310-28862590/

GET INNNNNNNNNNNNNN i still dont think we will get him though lol.

http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/06/12/newcastle-plotting-mega-offer-for-top-striker-79310-28862593/

Anyone got any theorys who this top striker could be ? and as the article says it's not Ba or Gervinho who we remain interested in obtaining both.

by iftikhar Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:44 am

Mole & other NUFC fans, hello there.

Guys, do you think your club (owner) has any clear vision!!! The way I see it, a club of your stature (mid-table) can have three directions:

1. Being a selling club. For that you need to buy young talents (in addition to a youth system), keep for few (2-3 years) and sell for a profit. You don't do that.

2. Just survive. Even for that you need to keep upgrading the squad. Some of the teams got young talents who can lift their position. So even without new owners, you can be push down.

3. Gradual rise.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:40 pm

iftikhar wrote:Mole & other NUFC fans, hello there.

Guys, do you think your club (owner) has any clear vision!!! The way I see it, a club of your stature (mid-table) can have three directions:

1. Being a selling club. For that you need to buy young talents (in addition to a youth system), keep for few (2-3 years) and sell for a profit. You don't do that.

2. Just survive. Even for that you need to keep upgrading the squad. Some of the teams got young talents who can lift their position. So even without new owners, you can be push down.

3. Gradual rise.

I would say its a mixture of 1 and 3.

We are doing what number 1 says we are buying young, talented player's from across europe and then selling them on when they get older for a profit.

It's just atm the cycle has just started so none of those young players are really wanted by the big teams or the club is just not being offered the money required for it. There alot of talented quality youngsters coming through the youth system whether they are born and bred geordies or europeans recruited in at a young age with Haris Vuckic being on top of that list.

As for the gradual rise we do have the ambition to get back to where we were under Sir Bobby but it's going to be a very slow process as we dont have the capital or influence to make quick progress.

But iam positive we will make progress, how ever steady it maybe. due to the fact we buy young, talented players now instead of overpaid, over the hill primadonnas and that is due mainly to the scouting network head up Graham Carr which is spread throughout europe we especially have a big network in France, Spain, Holland and Germany.

Due to this we have bought very smartly ever since Ashley took over the club who is a fan of the Arsenal model which is probably a sign of the different the way transfer's are run at the club.

for example if you look at the signings:

Enrique 5M, Ben Arfa 5M, Tiote 3.5M, Cabaye 4.5 just for example with many other players like Gosling, Williamson, Simpson, Best, Gutierrez, Nolan and Barton for next to nothing.

As for this season the owner want's us the use the Carroll cash to springboard our selves to top 8 and a cup run and if the Cabaye signing is a sign of things to come i dont see no reason why that is'nt possible.

by Busby Babe Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:14 pm

Not really Newcastle news, but I guess Shearer news can be classified as Newcastle news.

Looks like he might succeed Dave Jones, as Cardiff boss.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13770272.stm

by BeautifulGame Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:13 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
iftikhar wrote:Mole & other NUFC fans, hello there.

Guys, do you think your club (owner) has any clear vision!!! The way I see it, a club of your stature (mid-table) can have three directions:

1. Being a selling club. For that you need to buy young talents (in addition to a youth system), keep for few (2-3 years) and sell for a profit. You don't do that.

2. Just survive. Even for that you need to keep upgrading the squad. Some of the teams got young talents who can lift their position. So even without new owners, you can be push down.

3. Gradual rise.

I would say its a mixture of 1 and 3.

We are doing what number 1 says we are buying young, talented player's from across europe and then selling them on when they get older for a profit.

It's just atm the cycle has just started so none of those young players are really wanted by the big teams or the club is just not being offered the money required for it. There alot of talented quality youngsters coming through the youth system whether they are born and bred geordies or europeans recruited in at a young age with Haris Vuckic being on top of that list.

As for the gradual rise we do have the ambition to get back to where we were under Sir Bobby but it's going to be a very slow process as we dont have the capital or influence to make quick progress.

But iam positive we will make progress, how ever steady it maybe. due to the fact we buy young, talented players now instead of overpaid, over the hill primadonnas and that is due mainly to the scouting network head up Graham Carr which is spread throughout europe we especially have a big network in France, Spain, Holland and Germany.

Due to this we have bought very smartly ever since Ashley took over the club who is a fan of the Arsenal model which is probably a sign of the different the way transfer's are run at the club.

for example if you look at the signings:

Enrique 5M, Ben Arfa 5M, Tiote 3.5M, Cabaye 4.5 just for example with many other players like Gosling, Williamson, Simpson, Best, Gutierrez, Nolan and Barton for next to nothing.

As for this season the owner want's us the use the Carroll cash to springboard our selves to top 8 and a cup run and if the Cabaye signing is a sign of things to come i dont see no reason why that is'nt possible.

The only doubt i have of that strategy is having Pardew as coach . Do you think he really Pardew capable of implementing that at Newcastle . I am not sure of that .

by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:30 pm

Nolan is having a medical at west ham apparently

surprised at that he was one of your best players

by TheRedStag Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:33 pm

Nolan could be leaving for the Championship

Past relationship with Fat Sam inspiring this move?

by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:34 pm

from joeys twitter

Joey7Barton
Joseph Barton

Great player, leader, captain, person, trainer and mostly a friend for life. Devastated to see him SOLD! #mejoseandjonasnext

by BeautifulGame Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:42 pm

Surely this is madness ? Selling a midfielder who scored 12 goals last .

Newcastle will be in big trouble if all there overseas players dont adopt straightaway . Could easily be dragged into relegation fight .

by TheRedStag Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:16 pm

BeautifulGame wrote:Surely this is madness ? Selling a midfielder who scored 12 goals last .

Newcastle will be in big trouble if all there overseas players dont adopt straightaway . Could easily be dragged into relegation fight .

and according to Barton: Himself, Enrique and Gutierrez are on the way out too.

by Guest Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:05 pm

That Barton tweet is true

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:37 pm

Too angry to give this a dignified response.

by Ali Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:42 pm

BeautifulGame wrote:Surely this is madness ?

by NiallQuinnsdiscoPants Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:23 pm

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fat-cockney-Ashley-sort-Bartons-contract-out-or-we-geordies-r-riotin/176203499100755?sk=wall

the jawdee nation arnt happy

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