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Re: 23/24 UCL Knockout Stage
Barça fans need to get nitpicking decisions and tiny things about a now 15 CL winning team will only be a worse look.
I am by no means a RM fan my stance is just acceptance and obvious respect because their recent record makes the whole golden age Pep era absolutely dwarfed in comparison.
I am by no means a RM fan my stance is just acceptance and obvious respect because their recent record makes the whole golden age Pep era absolutely dwarfed in comparison.
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Re: 23/24 UCL Knockout Stage
farfan wrote:Myesyats wrote:farfan wrote:
TIL the Classico is not a big game
People came at you with very reasonable and level-headed responses that you refused to engage with, preferring instead to focus on marginal takes (Like the Asensio vs Foden comparison )
What even is your criticism? That a 20 year old didn't take over the Champions League semis and final? If that's the standard we're setting for youngsters then no young player should be talked about ever.
I'm not expecting anything of him, i'm just comparing the hype with actual output.
You keep refering to Barca anyway, when I clearly compared him to Foden and specifically within the context of English media, and it is you who keeps focusing on everything else instead.
What is the appropriate level of hype you think the best young English player should be getting from the English media? I'm genuinely struggling to see what's unusual about it. What has Foden done at the same age for some people to feel he's entitled to the same "wunderkind" treatment ? scratch that, what did Foden do this year that matches Bellingham's La Liga campaign?
Treble last season and Premier League POTY this season is not impressive? There really is no way to measure 'hype', unless you have a scale that can do it. It's just a feeling that I have and that many people have following the media narrative, but I wouldnt say I have any overly strong feelings about it. You seem very defensive though, similarly to whenever someone calls out the most objective and uneqivocal fact of all that Vini has a terrible personality The mysterious level-headed takes you are talking about are which? The claim that Gavi and Pedri are good-for-nothing players which you instantly resort to? Now, that is blind hate talking, because homegrown players are a thorn for clubs who only buy the hottest next thing on the shelf.
If you think it is butt hurt, then fine, let us grieve in our way.
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Re: 23/24 UCL Knockout Stage
farfan wrote:Myesyats wrote:farfan wrote:
TIL the Classico is not a big game
People came at you with very reasonable and level-headed responses that you refused to engage with, preferring instead to focus on marginal takes (Like the Asensio vs Foden comparison )
What even is your criticism? That a 20 year old didn't take over the Champions League semis and final? If that's the standard we're setting for youngsters then no young player should be talked about ever.
I'm not expecting anything of him, i'm just comparing the hype with actual output.
You keep refering to Barca anyway, when I clearly compared him to Foden and specifically within the context of English media, and it is you who keeps focusing on everything else instead.
What is the appropriate level of hype you think the best young English player should be getting from the English media? I'm genuinely struggling to see what's unusual about it. What has Foden done at the same age for some people to feel he's entitled to the same "wunderkind" treatment ? scratch that, what did Foden do this year that matches Bellingham's La Liga campaign?
For starters, if we going by FM's version of "wunderkind", Phil is too old to be considered one and at 20, Foden was coming off the bench and definitely had little impact to City's successes. Furthermore, at 24, this is Foden's best season as he finally matched the potential and hype that surrounded him for years.
Jude, on the other hand, at the age of 19, became an essential part of Madrid's attacking line up and for 1 half of a season, was absolutely vital to a lot of our early wins whilst not actually being an attacking midfielder per se. Seriously, unless your name is Raul Gonzalez Blanco, 19 year olds at Madrid do not have this level of impact and influence.
And we, as full adults, questioning why the hype for Jude is greater? Really? Really really?
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Re: 23/24 UCL Knockout Stage
Doc wrote:farfan wrote:Myesyats wrote:
I'm not expecting anything of him, i'm just comparing the hype with actual output.
You keep refering to Barca anyway, when I clearly compared him to Foden and specifically within the context of English media, and it is you who keeps focusing on everything else instead.
What is the appropriate level of hype you think the best young English player should be getting from the English media? I'm genuinely struggling to see what's unusual about it. What has Foden done at the same age for some people to feel he's entitled to the same "wunderkind" treatment ? scratch that, what did Foden do this year that matches Bellingham's La Liga campaign?
For starters, if we going by FM's version of "wunderkind", Phil is too old to be considered one and at 20, Foden was coming off the bench and definitely had little impact to City's successes. Furthermore, at 24, this is Foden's best season as he finally matched the potential and hype that surrounded him for years.
Jude, on the other hand, at the age of 19, became an essential part of Madrid's attacking line up and for 1 half of a season, was absolutely vital to a lot of our early wins whilst not actually being an attacking midfielder per se. Seriously, unless your name is Raul Gonzalez Blanco, 19 year olds at Madrid do not have this level of impact and influence.
And we, as full adults, questioning why the hype for Jude is greater? Really? Really really?
It's truly baffling Jude was already making national headlines at age 16, had his jersey number retired by one of England's most popular clubs at age 17, was starting in the CL and contending for a top 4 league before the age of 18, and had one of the most impactful individual league seasons that we've ever seen at the biggest club in the world at the age of 20.
....and people are seriously asking why he's getting more hype than a 24 year old who had a fairly standard rise to prominence.
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Re: 23/24 UCL Knockout Stage
Not gonna get into this pointless argument cos Real fans always gonna dismiss whatever Man C does Interesting they will actually be linking up for Eng in the Euros, so we'll get to see what happens when they play together too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGDKh-I1C54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGDKh-I1C54
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Re: 23/24 UCL Knockout Stage
Barcelona > PSG > City
Really going for that plastic fan trifecta achievement.
Anyways that fraud club is going down soon.
Really going for that plastic fan trifecta achievement.
Anyways that fraud club is going down soon.
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