Re: The US Politics Thread

[Pedram]

And you wonder why Trump is gonna win? This is turning society on its head. It's like giving a trophy to the losing team.

Is it a win for black people, for women, or for anyone that they get hired only to be a figurehead and a token? Should be embarrassing rather than rewarding. Kamala is only going to get badly found out if they don't replace her

As always you're ignoring the context or deliberately not mentioning why they are talking like that on this video.

what context exactly? That she's the first female VP?

I guess I can understand her excitement in this specific case. But that's not the point. She was chosen to be Biden's running mate to win over the black vote. It was for optics, not necessarily her ability.

IIRC she was polling around 2% in the primary

Decades ago Biden rallied against desegregation because his kids would grow up in a "racial jungle". Kamala was enforced upon him

There were disabled/blind people on that meeting and Kamala was simply being courteous toward them.

Do you even read the comments below a tweet? your answer was literally there but i guess you're so hyper-focused on wokism that you can't see anything else.

[Myesyats]

Not its not only for blind people, she has a habit of doing that...

THROWBACK:

Kamala: "My pronouns are she, her, and hers!”

Chris Cuomo: "Mine too"

*awkward silence* pic.twitter.com/zdnNiUpBLX

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 3, 2024

[Pedram]

Not its not only for blind people, she has a habit of doing that...

THROWBACK:

Kamala: "My pronouns are she, her, and hers!”

Chris Cuomo: "Mine too"

*awkward silence* pic.twitter.com/zdnNiUpBLX

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 3, 2024

Libs of TikTok. of course.

The Elon Musk echo chamber working its magic i guess. i swear these accounts would barely get any traction before his takeover but now they are shoved in your throat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libs_of_TikTok

In case you are not familiar what you are being fed.

[Myesyats]

I'm not being fed libs of tiktok lmfao

I saw this video with Kamala years ago, its just easiest on twitter to find stuff like this

Why does the source matter if the video is not edited anyway?



better now?

[Pedram]

The source matters because something as simple as pronouns shouldn't be obsessed over. why does the right care so much how do people refer or introduce themselves? imagine caring this much about a non issue that has zero impact on your daily life. it's a shame you're falling for these petty and frankly manufactured culture wars Myesyats.

Anyway wasn't the right known for being the party of free speech? so why do they want to police people's words or censor them.

[Myesyats]

The source matters because something as simple as pronouns shouldn't be obsessed over.

Yeah exactly so why is it the first thing she says coming out on stage lmfao? It's funny you don't understand it's not just about pronouns, its just one manifestation of it.

[Pedram]

The source matters because something as simple as pronouns shouldn't be obsessed over.

Yeah exactly so why is it the first thing she says coming out on stage lmfao? It's funny you don't understand it's not just about pronouns, its just one manifestation of it.

Go on then, explain to us what does saying your pronouns first manifests? i'm sure it won't make you sound like a kook or too terminally online when you connect the issue to transgenderism. /s

Like i said you guys are just obsessed with policing people's words. ironic for the so called defenders of the free speech.

[Myesyats]

The source matters because something as simple as pronouns shouldn't be obsessed over.

Yeah exactly so why is it the first thing she says coming out on stage lmfao? It's funny you don't understand it's not just about pronouns, its just one manifestation of it.

Go on then, explain to us what does saying your pronouns first manifests? i'm sure it won't make you sound like a kook or too terminally online when you connect the issue to transgenderism. /s

Like i said you guys are just obsessed with policing people's words. ironic for the so called defenders of the free speech.

Usage of preferred pronouns is slowly getting enforced by law so kinda ironic you use the term "policing"

Dont know who "you guys" are either

[Pedram]

Yeah exactly so why is it the first thing she says coming out on stage lmfao? It's funny you don't understand it's not just about pronouns, its just one manifestation of it.

Go on then, explain to us what does saying your pronouns first manifests? i'm sure it won't make you sound like a kook or too terminally online when you connect the issue to transgenderism. /s

Like i said you guys are just obsessed with policing people's words. ironic for the so called defenders of the free speech.

Usage of preferred pronouns is slowly getting enforced by law so kinda ironic you use the term "policing"

Dont know who "you guys" are either

Avoiding the question Myesyats. once again i'm asking you, do enlighten us what prioritizing your pronouns implies? I'm not really messing around, i truly want to know why it bothers you guys so much.

[Warrior]

Gender issues and pronouns might be the biggest fallacy of our times

Is it that big of a deal no but i find it's a foolish topic

A trojan invented to normalize a mental illness (yes your penis makes you a man, just because social norms of masculinity don't appeal to you it does not make you a woman) make it seem like a transhumanist decoy. So many scandals over the very basics of nature as a proof JK Rowling is somehow cancelled for her common sense.

Would like to know how real transgenders, those who actually got gender dysphoria, feel about the intense LGBTQ activism whose most tangible effect is a rise of exhibited homophobia and transphobia

You want to use inclusive language to help women, or stop micro agressions against visible minorities fair enough. But calling a bearded man "she" or "x" because he wears a dress and takes hormones is an insult to my intelligence. Pandering at a bunch of hysterical misfits who pretend they just want to be accepted but in reality all they do is bully people online, groom children in schools and ruin female sports i will never agree to it. Over my dead body tbh

[McLewis]

"Merit" is a racist dog whistle.

And you wonder why Trump is gonna win? This is turning society on its head. It's like giving a trophy to the losing team.

Is it a win for black people, for women, or for anyone that they get hired only to be a figurehead and a token? Should be embarrassing rather than rewarding. Kamala is only going to get badly found out if they don't replace her

None of that refutes my point. All I see are deflections and distractions from the right. Literally just smoke and mirrors.

Harris is not perfect. She's far from it in my eyes. The bad news for Trump is she doesn't have to be.

Dems have raised over $50m in 24 hours since Biden endorsed her to lead the ticket. And that's not even the wealthy 1%ers. Those are small-money donations from just regular people, of all races, genders, faiths, ethnicities, and economic backgrounds. Milennials and Gen Z voters, many of whom will be first-time voters, are energized by her candidacy in way they never would be for Biden. They're already on the ground going to work for her, knocking on doors, calling people, texting people. Biden's entire campaign staff have shifted to working for her. She's gotten the endorsement of literally every potential rival (Newsome, Whitmer, Shapiro, Buttigieg, Beshear, Warnock, and Kelly) that was considered as a Biden-alternative. They only remaining wrinkles for her are gaining the endorsement of the party elites (The Obamas, Pelosi, Jeffries, Schumer, etc.) and winning back Muslim voters. The former is likely just a matter of when, not if. The latter is trickier, but this is her chance to put real daylight between her and Biden on Gaza. It will help her even more with  younger voters as well.

Essentially, the Democratic Party have pretty much coalesced around her as their candidate. She has all of the momentum going into next month's convention. All Trump and his allies have are racist dog whistles like the one you posted. They've said she's unfit because she's not Black, even though she is. They've said she's unfit because her parents aren't native born, even though she is. They've said she's unfit because she doesn't have children, yet Trump has 5 by 3 different women. They've said she's unfit because she once dated Montel Fucking Williams, yet Trump fucked a pornstar and got convicted trying to cover it up.

The Trump campaign and the Right, in general, are clearly in a tailspin of their own making. Engaging in culture war bullshit is a convenient wool to pull over their eyes to convince themselves otherwise. That appears to have worked on you.

[futbol_bill]

For those of you, saying Pamela Harris is not the right choice, take a look at what has happened in the past 24 hours! And she still isn’t the official candidate. It sure looks like she will increase her advantage in the coming week. The republicans appear to be got off guard with her. IMO she is trump’s worse nightmare, a black woman, a former prosecutor, DA, senator and VP, totally qualified. She will speak about a lot of issues that voters want to hear, totally opposite to what Trump and Republicans are saying or ignoring. Trump and Republicans keep dwelling on what appears to be the MAGA base, while Pamela will speak to not only democrats but the independents and those sitting on the fence. What is happening this week is consolidation of democrats in support of her candidacy. All Trump and company seem to be able to do, is throw out insults which are mostly racial and anti women and their fake news approach, which should be fairly easily debated with facts.

[Myesyats]

The pronoun thing is not a dealbreaker for me (or anything other trans/lgbt related), I would still fundamentally prefer dems to be in power. But the radicalization happens on both sides and sometimes you have to opt for the less-cuckoo option when you a centrist and look what both sides are doing

I don't think Trump is as bad as media try to paint him, and his term wasn't the end of the world as they tried to tell people. His stances are consistent for decades whereas Bidens of this world change as the wind blows and expect me to believe he transitioned to a racial activist from someone who didn't want their children to grow up in a racial jungle (I know people change but not so drastically i doubt that). At least Trump is consistent in his views

Kamala may very well competent enough but she is still polling terribly. The US is a highly militarized country, perpetually conducting military operations somewhere which automatically favors male candidates for president imho. I would like to see her debate Trump

Nothing "works on me". I am as objective as it gets. In fact, I believe Michelle Obama could beat DT and she'd be a much better candidate

[futbol_bill]

I think you are ill informed Mysyats!

As to pools, take a better look at the end of this week.

[Myesyats]

I think you are ill informed Mysyats!

As to pools, take a better look at the end of this week.

#New General Election Poll - Age 18 - 34

Trump 58% (+19)
Harris 39%

Quinnipiac #B - 7/21

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) July 23, 2024

[futbol_bill]

I just saw a poll saying a three point lead for Pamela!

[futbol_bill]

Point is practically dead even. And she isn’t the official candidate and isn’t campaigning against trump yet. She’s gaining momentum almost hourly.

[Myesyats]

Point is practically dead even. And she isn’t the official candidate and isn’t campaigning against trump yet. She’s gaining momentum almost hourly.

Hillary all over again, but even worse!

[Pedram]

I think you are ill informed Mysyats!

As to pools, take a better look at the end of this week.

#New General Election Poll - Age 18 - 34

Trump 58% (+19)
Harris 39%

Quinnipiac #B - 7/21

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) July 23, 2024

BREAKING:

Kamala Harris has pulled ahead of Donald Trump in the latest breaking Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Harris leads Trump 44 - 42%.

This poll was conducted on Monday and Tuesday. pic.twitter.com/esYZmcpL5K

— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) July 23, 2024

[McLewis]

I don't think Trump is as bad as media try to paint him, and his term wasn't the end of the world as they tried to tell people. His stances are consistent for decades whereas Bidens of this world change as the wind blows and expect me to believe he transitioned to a racial activist from someone who didn't want their children to grow up in a racial jungle (I know people change but not so drastically i doubt that). At least Trump is consistent in his views

You're right. He's worse. By the end of his first term, 50% of this country had lost rights they had before he was elected. It's both a sign of privilege and naivety to make such an assertion.

[Myesyats]

I think you are ill informed Mysyats!

As to pools, take a better look at the end of this week.

#New General Election Poll - Age 18 - 34

Trump 58% (+19)
Harris 39%

Quinnipiac #B - 7/21

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) July 23, 2024

BREAKING:

Kamala Harris has pulled ahead of Donald Trump in the latest breaking Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Harris leads Trump 44 - 42%.

This poll was conducted on Monday and Tuesday. pic.twitter.com/esYZmcpL5K

— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) July 23, 2024

I remember when the polls said Hillary Clinton had a 9-point lead over Trump in Pennsylvania in October 2016. And yet Trump won the state. The polls were wrong.https://t.co/mJEoiBZvXI

— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) July 15, 2024

another rude awakening incoming

[Pedram]

#New General Election Poll - Age 18 - 34

Trump 58% (+19)
Harris 39%

Quinnipiac #B - 7/21

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) July 23, 2024

BREAKING:

Kamala Harris has pulled ahead of Donald Trump in the latest breaking Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Harris leads Trump 44 - 42%.

This poll was conducted on Monday and Tuesday. pic.twitter.com/esYZmcpL5K

— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) July 23, 2024

I remember when the polls said Hillary Clinton had a 9-point lead over Trump in Pennsylvania in October 2016. And yet Trump won the state. The polls were wrong.https://t.co/mJEoiBZvXI

— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) July 15, 2024

another rude awakening incoming

Polls are never reliable, at best they give you a estimation which could turn out to be wrong by a wide margin. that Quinnipiac poll does sound like a outlier though, i would rather trust Reuters as they have a better track record. overall most nation-wide polls show Trump and Kamala are close with Trump having a slight lead.

Also one thing you probably did not notice or deliberately not mentioning is that the poll was conducted only on 18 to 34 age bracket, the youth vote which is notorious for not showing up at the ballot box on election days.

[Myesyats]

I did not ignore it, but shouldnt that age bracket favor Dems anyway?

Anyway, even if its close, that probably means Trump is gonna take the swing states

[Myesyats]

[Myesyats]

#New @YouGov General Election Poll

Trump 44% (+3)
Harris 41%

YouGov B+ - 1435 RV - 7/21-23

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) July 24, 2024

[BarcaLearning]

I don't think Trump is as bad as media try to paint him, and his term wasn't the end of the world as they tried to tell people. His stances are consistent for decades whereas Bidens of this world change as the wind blows and expect me to believe he transitioned to a racial activist from someone who didn't want their children to grow up in a racial jungle (I know people change but not so drastically i doubt that). At least Trump is consistent in his views

You're right. He's worse. By the end of his first term, 50% of this country had lost rights they had before he was elected. It's both a sign of privilege and naivety to make such an assertion.

This is scary to know... so u guys mean even if Democrats won, it wouldnt be much better anyway? I just thought the way Trump handled Covid n his daily abusing everyone on Twitter means anything would be better than him?

So whats good points about Trump, can someone pls tell me? Perhaps I wont fear the inevitable as much if I knew hes not as bad as I thought

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