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Post by titosantill Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:06 pm

Zidane and Henry over platini for me (I preferred watching those 2). If messi does win the world cup, he should retire. I feel it would enhance him even more (obviously he still has to play out his psg deal). But winning the world cup on ure way out and bowing out is huge. Not that he needs more props anyway

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Post by Casciavit Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:28 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:Agree Cas although I would give the physical edge to zidane. Dude was a damn tank and very powerful despite being somewhat wiry. One of his most underrated attributes


Yeah when I said athleticism I was including physical edge in that description too. Platini was a bit of a twink, but his passing, scoring, IQ, and set pieces were all better than Zidane’s.
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:41 pm

Just watched some footage again of zizou @Cas. Guy had serious physical strength. There’d be times I thought he would lose the ball but he literally muscles the other guy off the ball, and it’s usually big defenders or defensive midfielders
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Post by sportsczy Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:00 pm

Platini is the best French player I've ever seen... and I'm a huge Zidane fan as you all know.

Before him, France NT was non-existent. In fact, no French players were in top teams around Europe (only allowed two foreigners per team as an FYI and no EU).

Went to Juve and won 3 BDOs in a row... and remember that he went there at the age of 25.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:37 am

Equalled last season goals for PSG, 11+13 in 16 games, 22+30 in the first 50 games.

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Post by Casciavit Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:21 pm

Casciavit wrote:I haven't seen much PSG since they lost to Madrid, as Poch's made me lose all faith in this project even though I did enjoy the Messi-Mbappe link up.

Either way, Messi didn't go from the best finisher to the worst just like that. I don't believe he's suddenly forgotten how to shoot the ball. Like yeah, he's been a flop this season as he's heavily underwhelmed relative to expectations, but I don't think it's a simple case of it just being a blatant technical decline.

Once Poch leaves, and they hire a coach who realizes Messi is free at the edge of the box 5-6 times a game, I'm sure his scoring count will increase. His finishing troubles have more to do with confidence and opportunities rather than technique. He went from 6 shots per game to 3 shots per game. Less scoring chances + finishing troubles = a recipe for low confidence and poor form.


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12 goals in his last 10 games. Poch has blood on his hands
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:29 pm

It depends. Galtier is giving Messi freedom at the detriment of Mbapay whereas Poch made Mbapay the focus at the detriment of the other two. Had Mbapay been shafted to n9 last season he'd have joined us on a free. Since he was the absolute focus of that team then he was satisifed with his own role within the team. The bubble is bursting slowly this season.

As usual it will all blow up in their faces when QSG get kicked out of CL by the first serious team they meet
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:55 pm

Goal: Messi
Assist: Ramos

One of those things I never thought to see. Feels dirty.

Anyways, I think these past few months have really put to rest that L1 is super physical and all that crap we heard last season. As it turns out, it was just long covid, and this season he is back to normal dazzling us every weekend.
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Post by Myesyats Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:09 pm

What a banger. Goal of the week surely!
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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:11 pm

Who ever said that Ligue 1 was particularly physical? Was it someone on here?
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Post by Myesyats Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:13 pm

Thimmy wrote:Who ever said that Ligue 1 was particularly physical? Was it someone on here?

If I were to guess I'd say Sportszczy
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Post by Casciavit Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:35 pm

It is a physical league and some of those players are absolute butchers combined with incompetent refs. It’s not a surprise Neymar’s been injured so much since he’s gone there.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:56 pm

It's physical but slow

It's basically what England was like 15 years ago lol.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:25 pm

What I meant was using the physicality as a means to explaining why he wasn't performing up to his usual standards. It's clearly a more physical league than La Liga, but not especially physical compared to South American wc qualifiers.
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Post by Harmonica Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:09 pm

38 - Since 17-18 Messi has scored 38 league goals from outside the box, twice as many as the second best De Bruyne (19).

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Ligue 1 physicality being problem for Messi was bs. The reason for mediocre season were almost career ending injury with no pre-season, long-covid and Poch trifecta. Messi has never had problems in SA, and those games are more physical and far more brutal than Ligue.
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Post by Lucifer Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:12 pm

Did @harmonica just accepted Messi had a mediocre season?
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Post by Myesyats Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:27 pm

That's an oopsie right there 🤭
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Post by neuro11 Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:06 pm

Lucifer wrote:Did @harmonica just accepted Messi had a mediocre season?
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That's a great finding...hahah

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Post by Harmonica Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:17 pm

By his standards, i.e. whoscored #3.  Rolling Eyes
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How did I miss this, two years prior at the same net from the same spot.

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Post by Harmonica Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:34 am

GA per game excluding penaldos

1,58 22-23 (16+14@19)
1,57 11-12 (67+41@69 15pk)

hmm
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:02 pm

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Post by Harmonica Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:40 pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/ykbwsb/lionel_messis_speech_before_the_copa_america/ :bow:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:05 pm

Bruh look above
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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:22 am

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Post by Myesyats Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:30 pm

Man needs his own category lmao
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:43 pm

What does xT represent? Expected tackles?
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