China Detaining Millions of Muslims in Internment camps.

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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:07 pm


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Post by iftikhar Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:20 am

Myesyats wrote:China makes criticizing CPP rule in Hong Kong illegal worldwide

https://www.axios.com/china-hong-kong-law-global-activism-ff1ea6d1-0589-4a71-a462-eda5bea3f78f.html


lmao watch out guys, you social score points will be deducted
No, but your social media accounts as well as other online assets can be hacked.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:05 pm

I dont use any social media or buy chinese products anymore whenever possible China Detaining Millions of Muslims in Internment camps.  - Page 2 Dpn-DNHWU8-AANgfo4444


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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:03 pm

I try to avoid any products from problematic countries, but it can be fucking tough. Using a computer while boycotting China is tough, for now there's Taiwan so there's a chance, but it might soon be no dice. Too many American and European developers have their factories in China, making yet more money for them and stabilizing the dictatorship. A no-win situation by now.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:37 am

https://gfycat.com/welldocumentedgrizzledafricanwilddog

Chilling footage from 2018
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:56 pm

British Jews Board of Deputies compares China’s treatment of Uighur Muslims to Nazi Germany

https://jewishjournal.com/news/worldwide/319301/british-jews-board-of-deputies-compares-chinas-treatment-of-uighur-muslims-to-nazi-germany/

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/hwbhtv/british_jews_board_of_deputies_compares_chinas/

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Post by Arquitecto Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:51 pm

In some ways even worse.

Of course our Kaz is rather quiet on this thread but more importantly what's worse is how quiet the American or British media is on this from CNN to the NBA etc and the more insightful ones will know why.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:04 pm

Well, the world is kind of pre-occupied with corona. How can you stop it? We can talk about it but China is even more powerful than Nazi Germany and it still took an all-out war to stop the nazis.

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Post by Arquitecto Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:11 pm

Im speaking of before this epidemic Mye given this has gone longer than when this began.

You must admit it is surprising the main media countries have not given more attention let alone action. But at the same time it should not be surprising.


America is quite fearful of China and the CCP that has come to light often even if it sounds like a bogus claim.
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Post by Babun Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:55 pm

The self proclaimed leaders of the islamic religion, Saudi Arabia, hails the efforts overtaken by China to solve its internal issues Laughing
The cowards leave the condemnation job to the jews :facepalm:
With this kind of "leaders" no wonder islamic countries haven't made any notable progress since 13th century.
@jews organization
Deep respect on the behalf of the humanity you guys say what the deal is. We know what follows concentration camps, history repeats itself.
Myesyats wrote:Well, the world is kind of pre-occupied with corona. How can you stop it? We can talk about it but China is even more powerful than Nazi Germany and it still took an all-out war to stop the nazis.

China isn't more powerful than Nazi Germany back then. They are culturally inferior, same in science, cannot start an all out war because of the nuclear weapons, never succeeded in a proper war. They were always on the losing side, just like Italy after the fall of the Roman Empire.
Cooperated financial isolation is enough to bring China to their knees. Honestly, Xi Jinping is their worst leader to date. He is actively damaging the Chinese image and the economy. Hongkong is the most important financial hub for the Chinese companies to venture into western world. With the new decrees, countries all around the world will regard Hongkong as China, it will lose all of its financial privileges, bad for China. Skirmish vs India will lead to less Chinese products consumed by the second largest population in the world while gaining virtually nothing from a conflict. Directly threatening countries...
It won't end up well. The sad thing is the ones to suffer will be regular Chinese citizens.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:16 pm

China isn't more powerful than Nazi Germany back then. They are culturally inferior, same in science, cannot start an all out war because of the nuclear weapons, never succeeded in a proper war. They were always on the losing side, just like Italy after the fall of the Roman Empire.
Poor attempt at a troll to conveniently forget about WW1.

I agree with Arq that the current news push related to this seems political. This has been going on since 2017 yet I've read more about it in MSM in the past 6 months than in the previous 3 years
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Post by CBarca Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:14 pm

Culturally inferior?

Sorry, culturally inferior to the Nazis? I heard that right?
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:11 pm

Surely he means Germanic peoples in general

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Post by Babun Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:18 pm

CBarca wrote:Culturally inferior?

Sorry, culturally inferior to the Nazis? I heard that right?

It's common nowadays to reduce the meaning of culture to the ethics department.
Excellent organization, precise execution and top scientists like the nazi Germany had were also part of the devious culture during that era. It took allied forces to bring them down, there was a reason for that.
It doesn't mean Nazis or current Chinese CPP are being compared in ethics department. They're beyond hope. The difference is Nazis got to wreck the world, China is about to do that.
Myesyats wrote:Surely he means Germanic peoples in general

Nope, I mean the culture.
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China isn't more powerful than Nazi Germany back then. They are culturally inferior, same in science, cannot start an all out war because of the nuclear weapons, never succeeded in a proper war. They were always on the losing side, just like Italy after the fall of the Roman Empire.
Poor attempt at a troll to conveniently forget about WW1.

I agree with Arq that the current news push related to this seems political. This has been going on since 2017 yet I've read more about it in MSM in the past 6 months than in the previous 3 years

WW1 isn't the whole story of that region. The French, Normans, Germans, Langobards, Spaniards  and many others wrecked the region we call Italy nowadays multiple times over centuries after the fall of the Roman Empire.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:43 pm

Babun looking at the world like a game of civilization and comparing each country's culture, science and military rankings
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Post by Babun Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:55 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Babun looking at the world like a game of civilization and comparing each country's culture, science and military rankings

The warfare nowadays is more on the economic side. Piss off enough countries and your exports will plummet. CCP is more vulnerable than people think. The easiest way would be to strengthen India by relocating production over there. Then you'll have a rival who'll take care of the Chinese expansion by itself, weakens it economically and no blood will be shed on either side.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:43 pm

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/09/china-ai-surveillance/614197/

this is very interesting, it's not about the Uighurs in concentration camps but about those allowed to live their daily lives. The amount of surveillance they are under is ridiculous. They're monitored in group chats, have to install apps for tracking on their phones, endure pregnancy checks (and sometimes forced abortions), the government is notified when they cross certain checkpoints. Really worth a read.
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Post by rincon Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:07 pm

There was a protest about this in the center of Brussels. Saw it on the way to work the other day. Two hundred people maybe when I passed.
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Post by iftikhar Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:40 pm

Western governments are always very tolerant about any regime prosecuting an ethnic group, unless it suited their agenda.

Palestine, Rohingya, apartheid in South Africa. Hell, they did shit even when three million Bangladeshis were massacred in just nine months.

It's normal.
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Post by Babun Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:16 am

iftikhar wrote:Western governments are always very tolerant about any regime prosecuting an ethnic group, unless it suited their agenda.

Palestine, Rohingya, apartheid in South Africa. Hell, they did shit even when three million Bangladeshis were massacred in just nine months.

It's normal.

Replace western with all gouvernments and you'll have it. Saudi Arabia doesn't give two shits about Syrian refugees. Most of the African nations couldn't care less about the situation in the neighbouring African nations, same in South America. They care only when the situation hurts their interests.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:42 pm

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/07/15/uighur-genocide-xinjiang-china-surveillance-sterilization/

Good source that puts a lot of the recent info in 1 place, it's quite damning

Patagonia and other brands have found that the Uighur concentration camps are so intertwined with Xinjiang supply chains that the only way to prevent it is to pull out from the province altogether.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:08 pm

They really are disgusting, aren't they.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:52 pm

Disgusting doesn't even come close

Between 2015 and 2018, population growth rates in the Uighur heartland plummeted by 84 percent. Conversely, official documents show that sterilization rates skyrocketed in Xinjiang while plunging throughout the rest of China, and the funding for these programs is only increasing. Between 2017 and 2018, in one district, the percentage of women who were infertile or widowed increased by 124 percent and 117 percent, respectively. In 2018, 80 percent of all IUD placements in China were performed in Xinjiang despite accounting for a mere 1.8 percent of China’s population. These IUDs can be removed only by state-approved surgery—or else prison terms will follow. In Kashgar, only about 3 percent of married women of childbearing age gave birth in 2019. The latest annual reports from some of these regions have begun omitting birth rate information altogether to conceal the scale of destruction. The government has shut down its entire online platform after these revelations. The scale and scope of these measures are clearly designed to halt Uighur births.

This is so beyond fucked
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:45 am

iftikhar wrote:Western governments are always very tolerant about any regime prosecuting an ethnic group, unless it suited their agenda.

Palestine, Rohingya, apartheid in South Africa. Hell, they did shit even when three million Bangladeshis were massacred in just nine months.

It's normal.

Totally agree.
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:12 am

Not one peep about this from NBA, NHL, NFL or any corporate media, franchise or of that sort from American commercial media sources. Surprise
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