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Post by Myesyats Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:08 pm

14 g/a in 4 years, one beer belly, zero fucks given, legendary.

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Post by Firenze Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:21 pm

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Post by BarcaLearning Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:11 pm

Firenze wrote:PL watchers that weren't casuals called this exact scenario...though even I who thought it would be a terrible move didn't imagine it would be this forgettable


Interesting... why though? He seemed to boss it at Chelsea n NT for quite a period... small skillful dribbling type player, pretty typical of the Spanish type... really strange that he dipped that quickly n never recovered...
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Post by Myesyats Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:25 am

i've got goosebumps

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Post by farfan Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:26 am

Firenze wrote:PL watchers that weren't casuals called this exact scenario...though even I who thought it would be a terrible move didn't imagine it would be this forgettable


You called a series of crippling injuries that derailed his career? Laughing It turned out to be a failed transfer but not for the reasons his haters fixated on (Sideways dribbling or whatever nonsense you guys were on)
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Post by titosantill Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:57 pm

Real Madrid's 5 biggest busts of all time.
1. Hazard (by a mile)
2. Kaka
3. Anelka
4. James
5. Woodgate
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Post by sportsczy Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:30 pm

@tito... how about Drenthe? Cannavaro? although not a bust, i thought Bekham was very underwhelming too. Michael Owen was kind of a bust too mainly because we didn't play him...nothing he did.
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Post by titosantill Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:47 pm

you can make an argument for everyone on that list (except becks) but i dont think they're worse than my 5. when you take into account fees, expectation and performance. Woodgate may not have the 3 but he just has to be there, for a while he was the poster boy for what a flop looked like. becks imo wasnt a flop. didn't have a successful stint at madrid, but i thought dude always played his ass off. and i hate to put kaka on that list, but we have to call it like it is.
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:50 pm

Beckham was a bust until he announced he was going to LA. Once Capello realized he needed him and added him to lineup, he played very well in his last half of that season.

I agree with Tito's list and re Owen, Drenthe but not Cannavaro. He wasn't as good as in Italy, but he did contribute unlike others in this list.
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Post by titosantill Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:18 pm

i liked becks at madrid. there was never a time where i felt he should be on the bench. he tried his best for us.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:12 pm

My issue with bekham has nothing to do with him... we sold prime makelele to get bekham... that's my beef lol.

I think First Era of Flo as president should be mentioned as a flop now that I think about it.

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Post by futbol_bill Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:32 pm

Well you can certainly say Flo’s first term was not successful, but I wouldn’t call it a flop. They had star players and played very enjoyable futbol. Compare that era with the in between era. Gravenson as their lead player for example!

As to Beckham, yes the issue was where should he play with Figo and Zidane, but to me he only played making an impact in his last half season after Capello realized he needed him.
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Post by Firenze Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:58 am

officially retired

one of the most overrated players of my lifetime, great on his day which tended to be 5-10 games a season outside of one or two years
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Post by farfan Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:02 pm

He was properly rated and has proved me all of you wrong in 2016-2019 Laughing His impact was undeniable and both the eye test and the stats back this up.

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Post by Vibe Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:04 pm

I agree, properly rated. Not a proper ending though, Real Madrid should have been the height of his career, instead...

Will never forget his ass, a very fun player to watch.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:05 pm

The worst player in our history both in terms of transfer fee and impact.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:12 pm

Firenze wrote:officially retired

one of the most overrated players of my lifetime, great on his day which tended to be 5-10 games a season outside of one or two years

yup beyond overrated even at Chelsea
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Post by Vibe Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:20 pm

El Gunner wrote:
Firenze wrote:officially retired

one of the most overrated players of my lifetime, great on his day which tended to be 5-10 games a season outside of one or two years

yup beyond overrated even at Chelsea




I see this one still hurts
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Post by Davis Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:07 pm

Signing for Real Madrid was the biggest mistake he ever made. His career went downhill from there.


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Post by sportsczy Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:04 pm

Even at Lille, he was widely known to not train well at all. He relied entirely on his talent and just did the minimum in terms of physical fitness. That caught up to him of course. But even when he knew that he needed to change his habits, he didn't.

Footballers aren't extending their careers past the age of 30 these days by miracle. Diet, fitness, lifestyle and medicine have all evolved... but besides medicine, the rest is up to the player in terms of taking advantage. Hazard did not. So he had the career length of someone who played in the 80s and 90s as a result.

He was basically a Brazilian who mostly all end up like this.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:28 pm

Vibe wrote:
El Gunner wrote:
Firenze wrote:officially retired

one of the most overrated players of my lifetime, great on his day which tended to be 5-10 games a season outside of one or two years

yup beyond overrated even at Chelsea




I see this one still hurts

even Giroud has scored some nice goals in his life Thumbs up
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Post by Blue Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:29 am

Matt Law on Hazard: "There was a funny story which was never denied by the club. After training, there was a Burger van outside Stamford Bridge, the club basically had to tell people around it to stop selling Burgers to Eden Hazard on his way home from Stamford Bridge." 😂
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Post by Blue Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:35 am

Hazard was definitely not overrated, his teammates and players that have played against him certainly don't think he was overrated.

Hazard flopped at Madrid due to combination of injuries, work ethic, and age.

It is really not a surprise to be honest; lack of taking care of your bodies year round will show up at that age and in combination with injuries.

It is no different to Ronaldinho toward end of his Barca days.

Kinda why i have huge respect for Arjen Robben, ability to overcome injuries time after time. Speaks a lot about how he much he took care of his body mentally and physically.
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:15 am

Can anyone explain how Hazard is overrated?

Or are we throwing out that term lazily bc we cannot find a better superlative.

Hazard in terms of raw talent was mind-numbingly talented, to the point its endless ceiling was his own downfall because that's literally all he relied on. There was nothing he didn't have in his arsenal.

He lit up Europe when in Lille and had a brilliant career in Chelsea. I'll never forget how often he terrorised LFC and single-handedly. Why would we call him overrated given his discipline was awful, was injury prone and prone to lapses?

The word isn't overrated the word is an idiot. He was fantastic for Belgium, a generation that failed as a whole for the country but living short of his expectations does not take away from a successful career. Easily the most talented of this golden Belgian generation. Get real.
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Post by Clutch Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:26 am

English media would overrate him from my memory. I never viewed him in my top 5 nearly at any point but that's what I kept on hearing from the PL. Tremendous talent though

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