Premier League 17-18 Discussion Part 9 - The End

Real are certainly very good, but I would consider this Real team like best of all time or anything close to that, thats definitely a no. They do have weaknesses, and luck has been a big factor on many occasions. What they have though is a lot of other strengths combined thats helped them overall to be able to do so well in the CL.

Still when u look at their CLs but the fact that they cant even win their own league except once in a long while, one cant really rate them that highly in terms of best teams in history, even if they win 3 CLs in a row.

leave this spanish talk out of the brexit thread please

This is about how lloris is the only reason Spurs are ahead this half. Dembele and Dier playing some of the most shocking balls through the middle of the park I've ever seen. I really hope Kane is playing injured because if not the guy has become a Berbatov like lazy striker all too often, offering absolutely nothing up front right now.

Would like to see Dier and Dembele both off the field at half, it's incredible to see midfielders pass with such disregard.

Spurs playing tonight? Wow

Forgot about it too, only tuned in at 30 mins

Thank you GL jinx, Kane scores for 2-0

Tottenham have very easy remaining games, I think they will win all and finish above us. That Chelsea v Liverpool is huge, if we don't finish in the top-4 that will be disastrous.

Art Morte wrote:Tottenham have very easy remaining games, I think they will win all and finish above us. That Chelsea v Liverpool is huge, if we don't finish in the top-4 that will be disastrous.

if we can get through the roma tie intact then we can go all out to get something from the chelsea game to wrap up 4th. then rest players for the brighton game to be fresh for the final. i know thats a lot of ifs and buts

For EPL fans ( soon me too so ) , what do you think about Safe standings ?
Do you want back too or not ?



Just seen this by Crystal Palace fans

Discuss

p.s. is there anyone to go at stadium here or all streaming-addicted ?

Standing should be back, there's literally no reason for it not to happen.

People are apprehensive due to Hillsborough but that's a different world stadiums wise.

I suppose it is a better country too, considering  Thatcher is on the  deepest levels of hell now. Speaking of Hillsborough....

There has been a lot of progress since Hillsborough and it's a different time entirely, as Mole pointed out. Hillsborough was a tragedy, to be sure, and everyone should learn from it, but we don't stop flying planes just because they malfunction every once in a while.

I don't really know much about it, but I imagine safe standing can be brought back and done with in a safe and responsible fashion.

The basic idea behind safe standing is that it's, in theory, cheaper than sitting and would allow more noise-generating fans to come together and produce a better atmosphere. Kind of like the ultra sections in Europe.

The issue at the moment is that several groups are conducting surveys and a consensus on whether people actually want this or not hasn't been reached. One survey suggests that fans don't want to stand for 90 mins, another suggests they do, etc. The Sports Minister is against it, the Premier League want "more evidence", and so on. So it's a battle at the moment rather than a progressive discussion.

Personally, I'm all for it. Technology has improved since the 80s, how we manage crowds has improved since the 80s and we sadly have plenty of historical examples of what not to do. When you go to games, you see that most fans end up standing anyway. Every away section has fans standing all game. Every time noise is generated it's because the fans are on their feet (nobody in the Kop for example ever sits). But doing this continuously is a constant struggle because the rules state that every fans has to be seated and the stewards are doing their jobs enforcing those rules. So up and down the country stadiums go through short periods of noise but are mostly just quiet during games, unless it's a truly big occasion.

just saw a crazy stat. since 2014 liverpool have a net spent of £18mil and in the same time city have a net spent of £496 mil.

just saw another crazy stat, Loserpool have won 1 (pleb) trophy in the last 11 years

and obviously the reason for that is that you're a selling club, always selling your best players and then reinvesting the money on mediocre players for inflated fees

Firenze wrote:just saw another crazy stat, Loserpool have won 1 (pleb) trophy in the last 11 years

and obviously the reason for that is that you're a selling club, always selling your best players and then reinvesting the money on mediocre players for inflated fees

and another crazy stat is you have a net spent of £417mil and you are as close to city as liverpool and you got twatted by savilla.

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:just saw another crazy stat, Loserpool have won 1 (pleb) trophy in the last 11 years

and obviously the reason for that is that you're a selling club, always selling your best players and then reinvesting the money on mediocre players for inflated fees

and another crazy stat is you have a net spent of £417mil and you are as close to city as liverpool and you got twatted by savilla.

Well, we're 5 points above you with a game in hand so that math doesn't work out. And we have the most trophies in the league in the post Ferguson era, so I'm going to have to call you being an absolute numpty on that one bud.

Firenze wrote:just saw another crazy stat, Loserpool have won 1 (pleb) trophy in the last 11 years

and obviously the reason for that is that you're a selling club, always selling your best players and then reinvesting the money on mediocre players for inflated fees

that cant be true can it. if that were true we would have a net spend of £417 and have scrubs like lukaku and jogba starting for us like you lot.

Firenze wrote:

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:just saw another crazy stat, Loserpool have won 1 (pleb) trophy in the last 11 years

and obviously the reason for that is that you're a selling club, always selling your best players and then reinvesting the money on mediocre players for inflated fees

and another crazy stat is you have a net spent of £417mil and you are as close to city as liverpool and you got twatted by savilla.

Well, we're 5 points above you with a game in hand so that math doesn't work out. And we have the most trophies in the league in the post Ferguson era, so I'm going to have to call you being an absolute numpty on that one bud.

you still pussy out on that bet though

Unique wrote:just saw a crazy stat. since 2014 liverpool have a net spent of £18mil and in the same time city have a net spent of £496 mil.

What's Leicester's? They've actually won a title so I'm guessing theirs would even more crazier than just crazy.

chemicalboy99 wrote:

Unique wrote:just saw a crazy stat. since 2014 liverpool have a net spent of £18mil and in the same time city have a net spent of £496 mil.

What's Leicester's? They've actually won a title so I'm guessing theirs would even more crazier than just crazy.

£113 mil so not bad really.

also klopp has made a profit on transfers since he came to liverpool. liverpool owners need to get the check book out ffs.

Found this on City forum. Records in red are possible record that can be broken this weekend against Huddersfield.

Fully updated for All-Time records...
(all historical results converted to 3 points for a win)

Biggest title winning points margin
Currently: 16
Premier League Record: 18 (Man Utd 1999/2000) [-2] Note: The points difference between Utd and Arsenal is 18 points NOT 16.
Old Division one Record: 19 (Aston Villa 1896/97) [-3]
All-Time Top-Flight Record: 19 (Aston Villa 1896/97)
-> City need Utd to drop between 2 and 4 points on us to equal or surpass these records.

Most points in a season
Currently: 93 (9 to play for)
Premier League Record: 95 (Chelsea 2004/05) [-2]
Old Division One Record: 98 (Liverpool 1978/79) [-5]
All-Time Top-Flight Record: 98 (Liverpool 1978/79)
-> City need 3 points to surpass Chelsea for the PL record and 6 points to surpass Liverpool for the all time record.

Most away points in a season
Currently: 47 (3 to play for)
Premier League Record: 48 (Chelsea 2004/05)
Old Division One Record: 49 (Spurs 1960/61)
All-Time Top-Flight Record: 49 (Spurs 1960/61)
-> Draw and we equal the Chelsea PL record, Win we bag the all time record as well!

Most goals in a season in all competitions
Currently: 139
Premier League Record: 156 (Manchester City 2013/14) [-17]
Old Division One Record: 147 (Arsenal: 1930/31) [-8]
All-Time Top-Flight Record: 156 (Manchester City 2013/14)
-> 17 goals to beat our own 2013/14 season all-time record (@+5.66 goals a game on average) to surpass our own 2013/14 season record.

Most goals in a league season
Currently: 102
Premier League Record: 103 (Chelsea 2009/10) [-1]
Old Division One Record: 128 (Aston Villa 1930/31 - who were runners up!) [-26]
All-Time Top-Flight Record: 128 (Aston Villa 1930/31)
-> 2 goals required to break the Premier League record.
-> 27 goals to beat Aston Villa's all-time Record - Highly unlikely.

Most home goals in a league season
Currently: 58
Premier League Record: 68 (Chelsea 2009/10) [-10]
Old Division One Record: 86 (Aston Villa 1930/31 - who were runners up!) [-30]
All-Time Top-Flight Record: 86 (Aston Villa 1930/31)
-> 11 goals to break the Premier League record.
-> 31 goals to break Aston Villa's all time record (highly unlikely).

Most away goals in a league season
Currently: 44
Premier League Record: 48 (Liverpool 2013/14) [-4]
Old Division One Record: 60 (Arsenal 1930/31) [-16]
All-Time Top-Flight Record: (Arsenal 1930/31)
-> 5 goals to break Liverpool's 2013/14 Premier League record.
-> 17 goals to break Arsenal's all-time record @5.25 goals a game.-

Most wins in a league season
Currently: 30 (3 to play)
Premier League Record: 30 (Chelsea 2016/17)
Old Division One Record: 31 (Spurs 1960/61)
All-Time Top-Flight Record: 31 (Spurs 1960/61)
-> 2 wins to take the all time record and 1 to take the Premier League record.

Most away wins in a league season
Currently: 15 (1 to play)
Premier League Record: 15 (Chelsea 2004/05)
Old Division One Record: 16 (Spurs 1960/61)
-> 1 wins to take the Chelsea Premier League record and equal the all-time record.

Most assists (stats only collected from 1990s)
Currently: 15 (Kevin De Bruyne)
Record: 20 (Thierry Henry, 2002/03)

Already Broken or Equaled

Consecutive Premier League Wins
City Total: 18
Previous Record: 13 (Chelsea 2016/17)

Best Goal Difference (Could still grow)
Currently: +76
Record: +71 (Chelsea 2009/10)

Games to Play with Title Won (Equaled Not Broken)
City Total: 5
Previous Record: 5 (Manchester United 2000/01)

Liverpool assistant manager Zeljko Buvac has emerged as a shock contender to replace Arsene Wenger as Arsenal manager after ending his 17-year association with Jurgen Klopp.

Buvac, who has been dubbed Jurgen Klopp's 'brain', walked away from Anfield on Monday for what has been described by Liverpool as 'personal reasons'.
However, Klopp's trusted assistant has been linked with the managerial vacancy at the Emirates Stadium with sources close to the 56-year-old suggesting the move is on.

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:

Unique wrote: and another crazy stat is you have a net spent of £417mil and you are as close to city as liverpool and you got twatted by savilla.

Well, we're 5 points above you with a game in hand so that math doesn't work out. And we have the most trophies in the league in the post Ferguson era, so I'm going to have to call you being an absolute numpty on that one bud.

you still pussy out on that bet though

You've already looked like a massive muppet this season, why the hell would I want to continue indulging in your nonsense? Remind me of those kids that lose and then say double or nothing etc. talking about we are the second best team in england since like December and have been 3rd and 4th the entire time, probably gonna miss out on CL football too

Firenze wrote:

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:

Well, we're 5 points above you with a game in hand so that math doesn't work out. And we have the most trophies in the league in the post Ferguson era, so I'm going to have to call you being an absolute numpty on that one bud.

you still pussy out on that bet though

You've already looked like a massive muppet this season, why the hell would I want to continue indulging in your nonsense? Remind me of those kids that  lose and then say double or nothing etc. talking about we are the second best team in england since like December and have been 3rd and 4th the entire time, probably gonna miss out on CL football too

i would slap some sense into you but i dont want to get pussy on my hand

Those stats are impressive and all Nasir but the average non-City fan will never know about them. 2 seasons from now unless this City side keeps up the dominance nobody will remember it like they do the Arsenal invincibles or Fergie's United sides. At least that's what I think. You don't have the media fawning over this City like those teams at the time. It's hard to argue objectively that this City team isn't among the best PL teams ever, looking at those stats however.

Being annihilated by Pool in the CL will have done no favours though for City though, in terms of legacy, compared to if it had been a foreign team.