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Post by windkick Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:01 am

I decided to make a little tracker of players that came out of la Masia, or atleast played 1 season for the B or Infantil teams that were hyped up in one way or another to be solid/great players. This list basically keeps track of which players lived up to the hype ir not once they left la Blaugrana. Am I forgetting anyone? Should anyone be moved around?

F.C. Barcelona Masia

Top class
Maruo Icardi (Inter Milan/PSG)
Thiago (Bayern Munich)
Cesc Fabregas (Monaco)
Pedro (Chelsea)
Pepe Reina (Milan)

Middle Class/Average
Andre Onana (Ajax)
Keita Balde (Monaco)
Grimaldo (Benefica)
Deulofeu (Watford)
Oriol Romeu (Southampton)
Marc Bartra (Real Betis)
Cristian Tello (Real Betis)
Jonathan Soriano (Girona)
Nolito (Sevilla)
Héctor Bellerín (Arsenal)
'Manu' Trigueros (Villarreal)
Luis Alberto (Lazio)
Sergi Gómez (Sevilla)
Adama (Wolves)
Dani Olmo (RB Leipzig)

Below Average
Antonio Sanabria (Real Betis)
Martin Montoya (Brighton & Hove Albion)
Andreu Fontas (Sporting Kansas City)
Patric (Lazio)
Marlon (Sassuolo)
Sergi Palencia (AS Saint-Étienne)
Munir (Sevilla)
Jordi Masip (Real Valladolid)
Wilfrid Kaptoum (Real Betis)
Marc Muniesa (Girona)
Jona Dos Santos (LA Galaxy)
Gio Dos Santos (Club America)
Marc Cucurella (Getafe)
Denis Suarez (Celta de Vigo)

Duds
Fabrice Ondoa (KV Oostende)
Bojan (Montreal Impact)
Jose Suarez (Girona)
Dongou (CD Lugo)
Jon Toral (Hull City)
Isaac Cuenca (Sagan Tosu)
Gai Assulin (FC Kairat)
Dani Pacheco (Malaga)
Edgar le (Trabzonspor)
Alen Halilovic (AC Milan)
Pol Calvet (Retired)
Seung-Ho Paik (Girona)
Seung-Woo Lee (Hellas Verona)
Xavi Quintillà (Villarreal)
Javier Espinosa (FC Twente)
Aitor (FC Twente)
Julio Pleguezuelo (FC Twente)
Sergio Araujo (AEK Athens)
Sergi Samper (Vissel Kobe)
Sandro (Real Valladolid)
Carles Pérez (Roma)
Moussa Wagué (OGC Nice)
Abel Ruiz (SC Braga)
Josep Martínez (RB Leipzig)
Alex Blanco (Valencia)
Eric Montes (Cultural y Deportiva Leonesa)

Too young to tell (20 or below)
Sergio Gomez (Dortmund)
Mateu Morey (Dortmund)
Eric Garcia (Manchester City)
Adrià Bernabé (Manchester City)
Jordi Mboula (Monaco)
Robert Navarro (Monaco)
Takefusa Kubo (Real Madrid)
Kun Temenuzhkov (Leeds)
Joel López (Arsenal)
Pablo Moreno (Juventus)
Alejandro Marqués (Juventus)
Ricard Sanchez (Atletico Madrid)
Kais Ruiz (PSG)
Xavi Simmons (PSG)
Jean-Clair Todibo (Schalke 04)
Louie Barry (Aston Villa)


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Post by Myesyats Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:49 pm

Does anyone know how is Halilovic doing? He reminds me so much of Messi but I haven't heard about him since forever it feels like.

And Lee Seung-woo? Goddamn, he's 20 already. I remember watching his highlights back when was 16.....

He's so small lol


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Post by rincon Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:17 pm

Verona has a terrible team and Lee can barely get any minutes for them. Just 100 minutes or so in Serie A. Not going well for him.
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Post by CM Pep Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:36 pm

I remember those days when Graham Hunter hyped Dongou to be better than Messi. Damn.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:35 pm

@rincon wrote:Verona has a terrible team and Lee can barely get any minutes for them. Just 100 minutes or so in Serie A. Not going well for him.

He doesn't look like anything special though. He's got speed and agility but thats not enough really

@CM Pep wrote:I remember those days when Graham Hunter hyped Dongou to be better than Messi. Damn.

what

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Post by El Gunner Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:11 pm

Isn't Bellerin from La Mas'
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Post by CM Pep Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:16 am

@Myesyats wrote:
@rincon wrote:Verona has a terrible team and Lee can barely get any minutes for them. Just 100 minutes or so in Serie A. Not going well for him.

He doesn't look like anything special though. He's got speed and agility but thats not enough really

@CM Pep wrote:I remember those days when Graham Hunter hyped Dongou to be better than Messi. Damn.

what


http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/for-defenders-its-going-to-get-messier-20120316-1vatz.html

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:45 am

@CM Pep wrote:I remember those days when Graham Hunter hyped Dongou to be better than Messi. Damn.
LMAOOO yes I remember this as well

Have to say I completely forgot about half of these:

Duds
Fabrice Ondoa (Sevilla B)
Wilfrid Kaptoum (Real Betis)
Jose Suarez (Girona)
Sergi Samper (Las Palmas – on loan from Barcelona)
Dongou (Gymnastic)
Jon Toral (Hull City)
Isaac Cuenca (Hapoel Sheva FC)
Gai Assulin (Free Agent)
Dani Pacheco (Getafe)
Edgar le (Lillie)
Alen Halilovic (Las Palmas)
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Post by CM Pep Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:10 am

Wait, is that Toral (Hull) the one who went to Arsenal?

I remember rustling of feathers when Arsenal broke the coveted Toral-Samper partnership.

Looks like he was a scrub. What about Samper? Not up to the mark too?
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Post by windkick Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:22 am

@El Gunner wrote:Isn't Bellerin from La Mas'


Good catch! Not sure how I missed him.

Samper can’t seem to go a full few months without getting injured. He can still move up to a better category but he’s gotta earn it
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Post by windkick Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:30 am

Also forgot to add Pol Calvet to the list. He was supposed to be special, now look at him
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Post by windkick Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:42 pm

Might have to add another name to that list soon.

Reports suggest Masia stalet Bernebe has agreed to join City in the summer.
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Post by Myesyats Sun May 13, 2018 8:44 am

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/143158/Fixtures/Munir-El-Haddadi

12 goals and 6 assists for Munir at Alaves this season. He seems to have made some progress but unfortunately I'm afraid we don't have a place for him, especially if Griezz comes in.

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Post by danyjr Mon May 28, 2018 12:07 pm

Barcelona B relegated to segunda B.

So much for the legendary La Masia Laughing
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Post by windkick Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:26 pm

Updated the Opening Post due to transfers and added new kids to the Under 20 list.
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Post by windkick Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:56 pm

Marlon has been putting in some solid work for Sassuolo.


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Post by windkick Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:41 pm

The stoppage is planned over the case of Isaac Cuenca. LaLiga have refused to register him at Reus, on the grounds they don't believe he will only earn 77,000 euros.

The Association of Spanish Footballers (AFE) are considering calling for a strike over the case of Isaac Cuenca. LaLiga is refusing to allow Reus to register the player on the grounds the league authorities don’t believe he will only be earning 77,000 euros, the minimum Segunda División salary. The strike, if it went ahead, would be scheduled for 29 and 30 September, matchday 7 of LaLiga, with the Real Madrid - Atlético Madrid derby on the line-up.

Salary cap problems at Reus
LaLiga also refused to register three other players at Reus, Yoda, Vitor and Tito due to the salary cap applied by LaLiga to Reus. These players are under contract to Reus, meaning that in order to play they need to rip up their contract with the club and move elsewhere. If they stay at Reus without being able to play they won’t be able to until the January market.

LaLiga don't believe Cuenca's salary
Isaac Cuenca’s case is different as he is a free agent. Cuenca left his existing deal with Hapoel Be’er Sheva in Israel to return to Spain. While hopeful of receiving an offer from a first division club that never materialised, he had been training with his hometown club Reus. He then agreed to form part of the squad at Reus, earning the minimum salary. However when the club sent the documentation to LaLiga, the authorities rejected it on the grounds that in their opinion there was no way the player have accepted that amount of money, with the suspicion that Cuenca had agreed that as his official salary to avoid the salary cap, while the club would find other ways to inflate his remuneration.

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https://en.as.com/en/2018/09/03/football/1535989830_835727.html
https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/ex-barcelona-star-cuenca-blocked-from-joining-reus-what-s-going-on-here-4247046

He explained to AS: "LaLiga does not allow me to register because it does not believe that I will only collect that salary (€77,000, the minimum wage in the Segunda).

"If a club arrives and says they pay me half a million, they would believe it and let me play. It is a monumental incoherence.

"They told the club that they could register other players but not Cuenca. Act in plan: 'Do not play because I say so and period'. Let's see, gentlemen, show something! Why do they not let me play soccer? I am living an unreal situation. I dont understand it. I hope that an agreement is reached."


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Post by windkick Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:00 pm

Former La Masia winger Dani Olmo (Dinamo Zagreb) nominated for the Golden Boy award. He was the player included in a swap deal for Alen Halilovic. In hindsight it was a horrible deal for Barcelona.

According to recent reports, he will join Liverpool this January.
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Post by alexjanosik Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:35 am

@windkick wrote:Marlon has been putting in some solid work for Sassuolo.


He should probably have been kept. We have 3 left footed CB's and just 1 right footed CB. Would have made sense to let Vermaelen go and keep Marlon.

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Post by windkick Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:52 pm

@alexjanosik wrote:
@windkick wrote:Marlon has been putting in some solid work for Sassuolo.


He should probably have been kept. We have 3 left footed CB's and just 1 right footed CB. Would have made sense to let Vermaelen go and keep Marlon.


Never understood the decision to keep the always injured, ageing Vermalean over him to be honest. Just more of an upside to Marlon at this point, especially now that we are struggling with a injury crisis in the CB area.
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Post by alexjanosik Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:14 am

Heard Cucurella had a blinder against Madrid, though as a LM. We need a backup and eventually replacement for Alba. Can he make it? Not convinced by Miranda. Although, it seems Eibar have a buy option on him.

All the players who left this summer seem to be doing really well. Cucu, Palencia, Paco, Gomes, Mina.

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Post by windkick Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:23 am

Yeah, the thing is apparently EV never saw Cucu play at the B team and judged him on like 2 halves he played during the preseason and shushed him off. Cucu had either the assist or pre assist in all games today, really impressive. When you think about the conventional role a Barca full back plays, its not crazy to call it a LM role. Sort of like Alba at Valencia (remember Matheiu was their LB with Alba playing up front of him).

I did read we are scouting both Grimaldo and Onana about the possibility of coming back
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Post by windkick Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:57 pm

Nice article on why players leave la Masia.

http://global.espn.com/soccer/club/barcelona/83/blog/post/3740601/barcelonas-la-masia-produced-messi-iniesta-busquets-where-are-the-next-big-stars
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Post by free_cat Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:45 pm

Luis Alberto is at Lazio and was doing very well.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:59 pm

Were you in jail?
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