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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:02 am

Injuries galore

Kroos out precaution
Marcelo out with grade 2 tear of hamstring 3-4 weeks
Theo dislocated shoulder 2 weeks
Kovacic 4 weeks
Benzema started light training
Vallejo lost cause

We are down to our bare skin here. Line up sort of picks itself

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:10 am

injuries galore but still more than enough to crush alaves, no excuses
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:12 am

rofl honestly the balls of this guy. I feel it's going to be very beneficial in the long run

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Post by Freeza Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:36 am

Not really ballsy. Only Modric would make it on this team on ability.

Can't see who else on the bench would improve the line-up. First time Zidane picks a line-up on ability. That's the good thing about the rotation.
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Post by titosantill Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:48 am

we need to score early and not panic. i wasn't at all happy with isco's comment that the team panics when they don't score early, that's not good at all, and shouldn't have been said in public. i need to see more from carvajal, he's been pretty foolish of late. this should be a routine win, but leave it to us to make this more interesting than it should be
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:20 am

I'd say this is another potential banana peel, but I think we will win this one. I'm hoping Mayoral has a good game.

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Post by Freeza Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:28 am

I should def be a coach. Benching Bale and starting Ceballos would be something I would've done long ago. Brilliant move.
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Post by Freeza Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:49 am

I have no idea why the Mallenco even bothers to take the whistle out of his mouth.
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Post by Freeza Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:56 am

Ramos is so bad.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:06 am

Lol Mallenco. He has been whistling every other second. Half of it not even close to being a foul. Surprised he didn't call foul for our goal Rolling Eyes

Ceballos, Casemiro and Isco have been very good. Asensio not involved enough. Lucas needs to put in some crosses. He hasn't been taking on players enough for me.

Not the best game but we are getting things done
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:24 am

Lucas is below average

Still love him though
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Post by Freeza Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:40 am

That is freaking disgusting... Straight red right there
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Post by Freeza Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:48 am

Good god... Ramos.... What the actual f....
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:12 am

rofl our finishing this season. God almighty......

Alaves players on the ground. Spent more this game than they have in previous two season combined. Try working this hard against the cules huh

If we ever get a penalty from being manhandled on corners/freekicks I am going to be very surprised. Those are only given against us not for us

Alaves should've played with 2 plwyers down the thugs. If we did what other teams do to us we wouldn't have any players left
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:25 am

not to different from what we were seeing last season and criticizing, except that we are not scoring. classic zidane performance to me
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:35 am

I think it's very similar to last season but unlike then there aren't any last minute goals and we create infinitely more chances now than last season. We are just getting used to the new players and formations imo. Once we get our shit together we'll see the difference. I am was scared we'd peaked too early after the Uefa/Spanish super cups. Glad we didn't, hopefully we are following similar trajectory as last season and peak when it matters
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:06 pm

I took a lot of positives from this game.

Sure we are having problems, most of it being team adjusting to new players, formations, etc. Ronaldo is showing early season rust. There have been defensive lapses from Carvajal and a blunder by Navas, but mostly it has been the lack of goal scorers, mostly from Benz and Bale. But we have been consistently creating and getting lots of chances. Once the team gels, most of our problems will disappear.

the positives

1. Team selection. Looks like maybe Zidane is recognizing the main issues (BB). Him benching Bale is a very positive sign IMO.

2. Ronaldo playing the pure 9 position and actually looking comfortable there, although there is still rust showing thru.

3. Ceballos impressive. I like what Zidane is doing with the new young talents. Like Asensio last year, he is trying to ease their introduction into team and slowly develop them. We've already seen Theo show well and today now Ceballos. Still to see are Llorente and Vallejo (with the later I hope he isn't another Illarra, where nerves and early injury basically screwed his career at Madrid.) However, there is no doubt in my mind that both of these guys have the talent. Llorente has looked too timid thus far IMO, although there have been some good moments, particularly last time he was out there. I don't include Mayoral nor Achraf, as they are only there to fill vacant roster spots and have not thus far showed the talent the other kids have. It remains to be seen if they can cut it here or if they will end up playing for Alaves which is essentially a team of Castilla alumni.

4. Isco, absolutely MOM again. Where is Chad!!!

5. That Asensio is being considered a consistent starter.

6. the energy and game Lucas brings to the table. He and Nacho are our very good bench players.

7. I like the partnership that Ramos and Varane are developing. A lot has been made about Pepe leaving, but it really has allowed Varane to step into that consistent starter mode and Nacho has emerged as a good #3 (in addition to his role as #5 defender capably able to provide cover for all 4 defensive positions.

8. Our midfield is consistently probably the best out there and they are doing it with 7 or 8 different players. If they aren't the best out there, at least we have the strongest midfield bench out there.

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Post by Doc Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:06 pm

Watching highlights, that should have been a blowout for Madrid. Like easily, the sheer amount of clear cut chances. Glad to see we won though, kinda bet that we would have dropped points.
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Post by Turok_TTZ Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:24 pm

early in the season, we always start slow.

I would ignore us missing chances for the moment. that will come with time. plus this is the season where we should be most complacent. I have no concerns of this team going forward. Bill highlighted most of the positives that need to be said so I won't be repeating anything.
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Post by Adit Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:23 pm

Our front line is very average this season. Teams don't fear our forward line at all. The midfield though is creating and scoring to compensate. We really should've invested in a forward last summer.
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