Re: The Official Video Assistant Referee Thread

by Doc Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:02 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Worst thing to happen to Football

You know, if it weren't for VAR, Al Jazira has a 2-0 lead and we'll be discussing Zidane's inevitable departure. Because you know very well that goal was gonna stand in La Liga and UCL. They actually got the right call.

by halamadrid2 Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:03 pm

Or we'd be 1-0 up and cruising to a inevitable win hmm

The ref flipflopped 3 times, boy jusr couldn't make his mind up. Took a whole 4 minutes to finally come to a decision he wouldn't change his mind on. Awful piece of equipment that'll just cause more headache

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:36 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Worst thing to happen to Football

Yes it s better to have offside goal and fake goal

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:37 pm

Anyway VAR is used better than in Al Jazira - Real , calma
It hasn't to do with VAR , but with ref's incompetence

by Robespierre Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:44 pm

@Hans what do you think about VAR ? Never read a your opinion about it .
I wonder because just Serie A and Bundesliga have -for me the privilege- this.
I lead the Pro VAR wagon on Serie A thread, totally I love it and I can't still believe I' ve followed football without VAr for years.. Warrior leads the opposite faction

by Luca Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:53 pm

The issue isn't the technology, its the referees who aren't trained to utilize it properly, yet

If anything, it is going to lead to a new and better generation of refereeing in my opinion

by Doc Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:49 pm

I like it, wish it was implemented in La Liga but then again, considering refereeing in La Liga is dog poo, Spanish clubs would just have dog poo refs in the VAR room and on the field.

Still though, I like it. The ref in our match in the CWC showed the bad and the good side of it though...

by Robespierre Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:55 pm

VAR decisive on Liverpool WBA in FA Cup, correcting mistakes and taking justice.
Intervened 4 times yet not taked time for it

Waited 2018 for it ffs

Another beautiful spot for us #Varers

by Luca Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:58 pm

#WeAreAllVAR

by Harmonica Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:36 pm

Portugal makes waves for VAR. :bow:

https://cf-e2.streamablevideo.com/video/mp4/phm4x.mp4?token=1518005915-SLiMuAfjCyTVOJp1GfXTagOo9daH1bow6Sh86x2BZXI%3D

rofl

by CBarca Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:36 pm

Ruled out via VAR

I thought it was for clear and obvious mistakes?

Anybody who saw the game today (well I only saw half, but what a half it was) will know VAR did not cover itself in glory.

I like it for offside, but I'm very on the fence about use of VAR otherwise. People can disregard the whole "it sucks the life out of the game" point, but it's a valid point, and it's one that I think can only be counteracted if it can be shown that VAR consistently comes up with the right decisions.

It reflects what I always felt about technology in football. Use it for the things that can be done quickly and efficiently. Offside and goal line decisions, brilliant. So much else of football are shades of grey though, not black and white, and you have no guarantee that after 2-4 minutes of VAR, that the right decision will be made. VAR was used between 5 and 8 times that first half. It's absolutely ridiculous. Refereeing wise, there was nothing to like about the refs or VAR that half.

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:02 am

The only possible explanation is that they're trying to take down VAR by making it seem incompetent. WTF.

If it was disallowed by a foul on Llorente shouldn't it have been a pen?

by CBarca Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:47 am

This is just a snapshot too. Honestly you'd have to watch the game to get the full extent of how badly implemented VAR was.

Hopefully this game is the anomaly as far as VAR goes. Today's game in a vacuum would have any football fan sworn off of VAR forever. Truly horrid.

by InteristAli Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:23 am

Is it just me that thinks that was the right call? Now I didnt see the game or how the VAR was implemented in it, but for that video it's clear to me that llorente was pulling the other guy and stopping him from getting to the ball thus allowing lamela to get it to score

by Myesyats Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:01 pm

Yeah, clear foul by Llorente. IDK what are you on about.

by Warrior Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:03 pm

Entirely agreed with CBarca, another bs call by VAR

Wasn't an obvious foul at all, with Blue #6 either diving or losing his balance Laughing

by rincon Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:44 pm

It was a foul by Llorente, he grabs the guy and pulls the shirt.

by Myesyats Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:49 pm

rincon wrote:It was a foul by Llorente, he grabs the guy and pulls the shirt.

Exactly.

Great work by the refs with the help of VAR.

by CBarca Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:59 pm

Incredible. You guys gonna ignore that both players are fouling? You guys gonna ignore that Llorente is pulled first? Llorente hardly pulls him at all, but AT BEST, both players are pulling on each other.

Is every corner going to be a penalty or a free kick for the defensive team now?

You guys have to be kidding me if you honestly think that there is a call to be made here.

These have to be some of the more perplexing comments I've ever read on this site.

by Myesyats Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:26 pm

Wow what a drama queen you are. They both fight for possession but Llorente pulls his opponent down to the ground.

Realistically, it could have been whistled either way. I personally respect and understand ref's decision here.

Nonetheless, you are blowing this way out of proportion. Calm your tittys

by rincon Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:58 pm

CBarca

Why do you make me agree with Myesyats ffs

by Luca Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:22 pm

Don't worry guys, as usual, Juve and the Juve lads have to carry the fate of the universe

Juventus plan to send Pavel Nedved back through time to stop VAR

https://highpressnews.com/juventus-plan-send-pavel-nedved-back-time-stop-var/

Nedved's got this

by CBarca Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:32 pm

"It could have been whistled either way" is not a good excuse though. VAR is used to make the clear and correct decision. This was not. Rochdale defenders didn't appeal or think it shouldn't have stood, both Llorente and a defender are tugging at each other so at best it evens out. If it can go either way the goal is supposed to stand.

In any case, when has a little contact in the box ever been called? "it can go either way" is me granting some leeway here. It is unequivocally the wrong call, and this is the first time I've seen anyone claim it's the correct call. I have a feeling people want to make excuses for VAR here.

The referee gave the decision that it's a goal, and the use of VAR ruled out a legitimate goal. This is the system that is supposed to be correcting decisions. That's why I think it is a big deal. VAR was a lot more than just this call though. The entirety of both teams, the commentators, and the fans in the stadium were upset with the use of VAR on multiple occasions throughout the half. It completely ruined the game.

by rincon Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:54 pm

Is that you Harmonica?

by Myesyats Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:06 pm

CBarca wrote:"It could have been whistled either way" is not a good excuse though. VAR is used to make the clear and correct decision.

LOL

But still 'VAR' itself doesnt make a decision. It's still regular people who make the decision and many situations are hard to judge even if you have several replays.

I'm not gonna waste my time on you, ffs.

by Doc Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:21 pm

Yeah, viewed that goal way too many times than I ever would have and I too think it's a clear foul on Llorente. Big man literally pulled him back and #6 fell. Sure, they both did the usual tugging players do but Llorente went a lil extra and the ref called it.

Just checked the score, Spurs won 6-1. This level of extraness from cSpurs really is a bit odd.

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