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Post by Warrior Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:41 am

Fell asleep during the second half, when it was still 0-0 so before the 60th minute. Let's hope the match in Sardinia will be more exciting !

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Post by salmano9 Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:54 pm

Will Allegri leave? Lot's of reports about that...
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Post by MrSuave Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:37 pm

salmano9 wrote:Will Allegri leave? Lot's of reports about that...


I think it depends on how the season ends. If we win CL and Serie A I think his job here is finished. If we win Serie A and only make it to the CL semi-finals, I think he still has one more year left.
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Post by salmano9 Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:32 pm

Cagliari have been playing well, defending well, but we hit them whe they didn't expect it. Good pass from Marchisio. Its been long time since he gave an assist.

Dybala is playing too much upfront. I think that his older deeper role is much better in creating chances. This game its been cuadrado trying to break through. Maybe it would be better if Pjaca came on for Mandzukic to give fewer reference points to Cagliari
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Post by rincon Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:40 pm

Jammy game. Cagliari did a lot of things right. A great ball for Marchisio and a wonderful finish by Higuain made the difference. Cagliari will feel hard done.

The players lack the fighting edge, I guess its a mix of getting tired and saving strength for the CL.
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Post by rincon Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:54 pm

god damn this team has become so clinical
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Post by salmano9 Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:55 pm

Matri would have missed that 5 years ago Smile
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Post by salmano9 Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:57 pm

Dybala is falling way too much!
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Post by salmano9 Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:12 pm

Guys, don't you notice that it is more like 442 rather than 4231?
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Post by rincon Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:39 pm

Its 100% a 4-4-2. I've been writing it like that too. I think the media just calls it 4-2-3-1 cause it sounds more trendy.

Its an old school 4-4-2 with an SS and a CF. No inside forwards or AMs.
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Post by salmano9 Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:28 pm

rincon wrote:Its 100% a 4-4-2. I've been writing it like that too. I think the media just calls it 4-2-3-1 cause it sounds more trendy.

Its an old school 4-4-2 with an SS and a CF. No inside forwards or AMs.

Yep, that is what I'm feeling too. But as I said before, Dybala should track back more.
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Post by juvealbanian Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:48 pm

With the skills and charatceristics Dybala has I guess he will explode of he's used kinda like Griezmann.
He is ok at doing short passes but he doesn't have that passing genius inside him.

He should either play like I said (which we can't afford cuz we have Higuain) or just play as a RWF to cut inside kinda like Robben and use his terrific left foot.
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Post by salmano9 Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:40 am

juvealbanian wrote:With the skills and charatceristics Dybala has I guess he will explode of he's used kinda like Griezmann.
He is ok at doing short passes but he doesn't have that passing genius inside him.

He should either play like I said (which we can't afford cuz we have Higuain) or just play as a RWF to cut inside kinda like Robben and use his terrific left foot.

He has some really good passes! How come you couldn't see that! Smile

His passes are the main reason Allegri plays him as a trequartista.
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Post by Juveman17 Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:53 am

Hey all, long time no see, hope everyone is doing alright!

Thought I'd pop my head in and say hello Very Happy
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Post by rincon Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:06 am

Dybala just has to adapt to the tactics.

Allegri has asked a lot from him this season, changing his role constantly to help out the team. It took him a couple of games to get great at playing behind the strikers earlier this season. Now it will take him a few games to play in the 4-4-2.

Even when he is not playing his best, he is still playing very well, its just that we have higher expectations for him than for the rest imo. Last game he was better than Cuadrado and offensively much better than Mandzukic.

At Palermo he was the one up front getting fed by Vazquez. With Pogba he was the one capitalizing on through balls and second balls headed down by Mandzukic. Then with Hugain he had to be the one creating the most (specially cause our midfield sucked at first).

Now with the 4-4-2 he is not the go-to man for the final ball/shot. A lot of times we see him drop back a bit, receive the ball from midfield and setup Cuadrado or Mand/Sandro on the wings, who then play it in the box for Higuain. With Pjanic playing and feeding the attack, he can go forward more and latch onto those through balls.

For example, with Pjanic playing
goal against Lazio
goal against Milan
Hit the post against Sassuolo

without Pjanic
no goal against Crotone
assist against Cagliari

Dybala has to be smart in playing between the lines. I think he is doing very well so far and will improve. He has the least positional restrictions out of anyone in our lineup which is cool I'm sure but it also means he has to interpret the game better in when to be a midfielder and when to be a striker.

I like it because I love the classic trequartista Proud In this new role I see a Del Piero, Totti or Baggio.

One of my favorite teams of all time (for obvious reasons Very Happy ) looked a lot like this one.

Toni(Higuain) - Totti(Dybala)

Perotta(Mandz) - Pirlo(Pjanic) - Gattuso(Khedira) - Camoranesi(Cuadrado)

Grosso(Sandro) - Materazzi(Chiellini) - Cannavaro(Bonucci) - Zambrotta(Litch)

Buffon

A lot of similarities with the defensive LM, the tricky pacy RM, the TQ role, etc. Buffon was in goal, Barzagli was on the bench for both teams Laughing
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Post by salmano9 Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:06 pm

Juveman17 wrote:Hey all, long time no see, hope everyone is doing alright!

Thought I'd pop my head in and say hello Very Happy

Oh wow! Long time! Where have you been! You should post every once in a while!

@rincon : 2006 nostalgia with that formation Laughing
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Post by rincon Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:16 pm

We got Palermo tomorrow.

Allegri's tips:
Bonucci and Buffon will start. One of Rugani and Benatia will join in. Mandzukic is suspended so its not sure how we'll play. Pjaca or Sturaro could replace him. Middle 3 or middle 4 unsure.
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Post by salmano9 Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:54 pm

rincon wrote:We got Palermo tomorrow.

Allegri's tips:
Bonucci and Buffon will start. One of Rugani and Benatia will join in. Mandzukic is suspended so its not sure how we'll play. Pjaca or Sturaro could replace him. Middle 3 or middle 4 unsure.

Pjaca according to Allegri should work harder. That is true IMO.
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Post by rincon Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:43 pm

vs Palermo as predicted by tuttojuve

Buffon; Dani Alves, Benatia, Bonucci, Alex Sandro; Khedira, Marchisio; Cuadrado, Dybala, Pjaca; Higuain

4 players rotated and second start for Pjaca.
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Post by rincon Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:07 pm

pjaca Shocked
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Post by Warrior Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:23 pm

u have a decent link Rincon ?

watched the first 20 minutes but i all can find is shitty russian links with 5 pixels in the whole picture :facepalm:
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Post by rincon Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:29 pm

Do you have ace player? if not, then

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/5unujp/1945_gmt_juventus_vs_palermo/
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Post by Warrior Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:31 pm

Thank you and no i only have SopCast Laughing

since 2010 my russian websites seldom let me down but today was one of these days...

i see i missed a goal :facepalm:
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Post by juve_gigi Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:39 pm

Another day, another destruction of a team. Forza Juve!!! cheers cheers
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Post by jibers Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:19 pm

Man Count Max seems to be facing dissent every week. Him and Bonucci got involved in a war of words and Bonnucci told him to go to hell Laughing

Licht, Dymbala now Bonucci
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Post by rincon Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:29 pm

Must have been something about how pissed Max got after conceding that late goal for the 4-1. The other cases clearly I would side with Allegri and believe he is right. Now I see he might have to chill with the yelling and controlling a bit. First time I've ever heard of Bonucci fighting with a manager.
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