Juventus Match Hub 2016-17

Warrior wrote:Pjanic is a world-class player. I don't remember who said he still has the Roma mentality, but this person was right all the way.

Sometimes he switches off for a 5-10 minutes time range. At Juve you cannot do that, but i think in general speaking he is adapting well to our team.

I did

well i stand too much critical on playmakers,

as i expect them be more than just a good player, i expect them be excellent

but pjanic? if you check the stats his game is excelent so far, with goals, assists, all he needs is a little more understanding with the team, i guess and will do even better

Basically, yes.

My point is just, i would not give him a 10/10 from what i saw of him so far. More like a 8/10, but of course he will improve. For the first two months his partners were a tired Khedira and an out-of-position Lemina, this requires indulgency when rating him

yeah but why not 10/10?

goals , assists are not missing

maybe he can do a little better on intiating the attack
we are used with pirlo long balls, with pogba dribbling so it kinda feels something is missing?

but i think that we have good players on the back like sandro, marchisio who can lead the ball forwards , and dont really need pjanic to take all the responsibility like pirlo was doing, pirlo was like, give me the ball i do this...

but pjanic is excellent when it comes to final third, his crossing is excellent, his shots are excellent, i really like his game

He clearly hasn't been a 10/10

When he doesn't score or assist he tends to go invisible. Way to passive in his play. Doesn't take enough responsibility.

idk if you check whoscored com they have rated him really good, most of the games, and these guys simply follow stats i believe

lucianomoggi wrote:idk if you check whoscored com they have rated him really good, most of the games, and these guys simply follow stats i believe

You're correct, all they follow is stats from what I know but sometimes that doesn't tell everything about how a player played in a particular game.

I think everyone is just wanting more from Pjanic, we want to see him dominate a game like Pirlo did when he arrived at Juventus but he's not Pirlo.

He actually reminds me of Pogba, Pogba wasn't a dominant player through 90 minutes, he had very few MOTM performances on a whole but had those moments when he was incredibly decisive and broke the game open with a goal, an assist or a piece of skill/play that led to one or the other.

Pjanic had an absolute amazing free kick today and won us 3 points so for that alone, I think this was one of his better, if not best games. There is still a lot of room for improvement in my opinion and that goes for the whole team.

I'm very happy Cuadrado is back at Juventus, he is such a great player.

Luca wrote:

lucianomoggi wrote:idk if you check whoscored com they have rated him really good, most of the games, and these guys simply follow stats i believe

You're correct, all they follow is stats from what I know but sometimes that doesn't tell everything about how a player played in a particular game.

I think everyone is just wanting more from Pjanic, we want to see him dominate a game like Pirlo did when he arrived at Juventus but he's not Pirlo.

He actually reminds me of  Pogba, Pogba wasn't a dominant player through 90 minutes, he had very few MOTM performances on a whole but had those moments when he was incredibly decisive and broke the game open with a goal, an assist or a piece of skill/play that led to one or the other.

Pjanic had an absolute amazing free kick today and won us 3 points so for that alone, I think this was one of his better, if not best games. There is still a lot of room for improvement in my opinion and that goes for the whole team.

I'm very happy Cuadrado is back at Juventus, he is such a great player.

Thats the problem everyone expects from Pjanic to be a Pirlo or a Pogba. He ain't and he'll never be, especially Pogba.

Pjanic is great at releasing the ball with one touch, one touch passing and sending long passes and playing one touch football and playing in a team with attacking style. This tactics is not for him that's why today after we conceded he and he was so good along with Cuadrado, he needs fast players and great runners along side him (Sturaro today) so he can have one/two CM's covering for him like they did for Pirlo.

Higuain also, he is not accustomed to this kind of football.

yeah, we want more from pjanic to lead the team forwards but is that necessary?

we have guys like bbc, sandro, marchisio, alves, cuadrado, evra, khedira,

these guys not only have talents they have experience and leadership qualities i dont think they are desperate for pjanic to drop deep and do everything on his own with dribbling or long balls, i dont think that is necessary, he can focus to play more advanced and do something more decisive like dybala


its pjanic and dybala tandem, two #10 players looking for something decisive and leave the rest to deal with defensive third problems

lucianomoggi wrote:yeah, we want more from pjanic to lead the team forwards but is that necessary?

we have guys like bbc, sandro, marchisio, alves, cuadrado, evra, khedira,

these guys not only have talents they have experience and leadership qualities i dont think they are desperate for pjanic to drop deep and do everything on his own with dribbling or long balls, i dont think that is necessary, he can focus to play more advanced and do something more decisive like dybala


its pjanic and dybala tandem, two #10 players looking for something decisive and leave the rest to deal with defensive third problems

We want because we boguht him to be advanced playmaker or AM so he has to, he is the one who needs to link the midfield with the attack.

internationals + injuries + sevilla on the horizon

so an experimental team seems certain, the latest from the media is


The defense is almost confirmed (Chiellini is still not 100% and Benatia is not in the squad after a knock. Khedira is confirmed as is the attack. Litch and Sandro almost sure as well. Hernanes is edging Marchisio and Asamoah could go for Pjanic.

The team would be so good with a better midfield

Its hard to write Khedira - Hernanes - Asamoah after years of MVPP

I honestly miss Pereyra.

rincon wrote:The team would be so good with a better midfield

Its hard to write Khedira - Hernanes - Asamoah after years of MVPP

I honestly miss Pereyra.

Don't worry soon you'll see Witsel

btw I dont know if you guys watched Italy-Germany but Rugani was the best CB for Italy. Outstanding.

Oooh, thats great, I haven't watched the game haha. I am not too bothered about international games, apart from some qualifiers. I love the fact that we are playing him this game! Forza Rugani! Pjaca would have definitely started this game if he did not have an injury... Do you guys know when he could be back?

Pereyra scored an outstanding goal today btw

Why change Licht so early?

Seems like every time we play Asamoah we are sending a message out there that we can win with 10 men

Shitty half..

salmano9 wrote:Why change Licht so early?

Mandzukic was subbed if I'm not mistaking.

EDIT: My mistake, Licht is injured.

DeviAngel wrote:

salmano9 wrote:Why change Licht so early?

Mandzukic was subbed if I'm not mistaking.

EDIT: My mistake, Licht is injured.

Is he? It didn't seem like it.

As for Asamoah, he is fine, doing just a 6.0 rating kind og job.

Asamoah is not even a midfielder. Should be Sandro's back-up and that's about it imo.

SIMONE PEPE LA LA LALA LAA SIMONE PEPE LALALAALLA!!!!

AT LAST HERNANES A SCREAMER! We've been waiting for this for 2 years now!

C'mon Moise time!

Pretty much our full B team while still easily winning. Good performance if you ask me, Pescara had 1 chance in the whole match so far.

MOISEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE