The 2016/2017 Calcio Saga

Blame him for Sevilla, not for Inter. The players flopped there. Its up to them perform on the pitch and they were nowhere to be found. We fielded a proper starting 11, Inter was just much more in the game. The coach is not always at fault.

Asamoah after his last display should not have been starting, and Pjanic is no DM

Hence today, Allegri reacted by fixing his mistakes. Playing Pjanic in Asamoahs place and Lemina comes in to rest Khedira.


Plus, as I said our best striker was unnecessarily rested against Inter. That is on Allegri, absolutely.

So you would have played Hernanes in the middle against Inter? Or Lemina who you just said was no DM. A bet had to be made and he made a sensible one.

Where was Khedira? Even Bonucci wasn't good. Dybala had an off game.

The whole team let Juve down. Not just Allegri.

Our midfielders cost us the win against Inter, not Mandzukic.

Sadly Inter had a wonderful approach and completely stunned us. They put high pressure in the midfield, like Sevilla did two days before but without parking the bus.

- Pjanic was lost and did *bleep* all
- Asamoah was struggling, could not participate in any dangerous phase of play and made me nervous all game long
- Khedira was the best CM for 20-25 minutes then switched off

I never said it was Just Allegri


But he absolutely undeniably had a lot to answer for. Like I said Asamoah was shit against Sevilla, you don't reward that by starting him

Pjanic is wasted at DM, again this is not hindsight this is nothing new.

Mandzukic has not looked consistently good in a Juve shirt. Higuain was fully fit. We went with Mandzukic. Again a stupid decision.



So let's say (And I disagree with this 100%) Allegri got his team selection spot on against Inter. We got dominated for most of the first half, and most of the 2nd half. When does he make changes? When does Allegri react to the scenario being played out in front of him?

In the *bleep* 75th minute. And then again in the 85th or something. You do not wait that long to make changes when the whole world can see how badly you're performing

What's up with throwing on Cuadrado or Pjaca with 30 minutes to go? Allegri was taking hits in the media and from fans in general, and rightly so. He *bleep* up against Sevilla and he did not recover against Inter.

heffkzar wrote:Our midfielders cost us the win against Inter, not Mandzukic.

Sadly Inter had a wonderful approach and completely stunned us. They put high pressure in the midfield, like Sevilla did two days before but without parking the bus.

- Pjanic was lost and did *bleep* all
- Asamoah was struggling, could not participate in any dangerous phase of play and made me nervous all game long
- Khedira was the best CM for 20-25 minutes then switched off

Asamoah was shit against Sevilla 3 days prior to his game losing mistake against Inter.

Is it not Allegri's job to select the best possible squad for the task at hand? Asamoah does not fall under that bracket. He replicated his bad form two games in a row. Both Asamoah and Allegri's fault.





Having said that, at least Allegri is using the 3-5-2 as it should be tonight. But we still need a plan B when we inevitably struggle again. Swapping Dybala for Pjaca in the 88th minute is not a viable plan B.

No Gabigol lol

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
When does he make changes? When does Allegri react to the scenario being played out in front of him?

In the *bleep* 75th minute. And then again in the 85th or something. You do not wait that long to make changes when the whole world can see how badly you're performing

What's up with throwing on Cuadrado or Pjaca with 30 minutes to go?

To that i agree and this is mind blowing. Either way he's low key crossing his fingers that his initial plan will finally unlock and make him look like a genius... or Cuadrado is shagging his wife and got caught.

That Mandzukic shot

Pjaca with some excellent playmaking.

I don't get the point of slamming Allegri for this. We are 5 games into the season. Except for 1 game week we've been top of table and likely about to go back on top. Yes we drew Sevilla for parking it, there are 5 games to win the group.

Individual mistakes from the players have costed us the most so far. Remember that we conceded the second after scoring. And that we have conceded from set pieces like 4 times so far. These are errors from the players not being focused.

Just chill. Every team is basically groin through this. Barca lost to some scrubs. Madrid lost points. Napoli and Inter dropped points.

Let Allegri and the players figure out how to best do things.

From this kind of talk you'd think that its march and we are about to lose the league and the CL.

We back on top fellas !!!!

Thanks to Genoa

Alex Sandro MOTM. Great game from Lemina too. He's way better as a b2b compared to DM. That seems his natural position.

zigra wrote:De Boer

De Boer talks already Italian language better than Di Natale and Verratti ffs

Icardi for me is in the tier 1 for #9s. He is too damn clinical. he would get 50+ goals if he played for BBR.

Problem is he's not much outside the box

Tomwin Lannister wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Good to see Allegri is hard at work trying different formations and coming up with a plan B for us, also nice to see he's giving plenty of minutes to Cuadrado and Pjaca allowing them to gain form and Pjaca to grow as a player. Great stuff.

Oh shit nope I just wandered off in to an alternate reality where most Italian coaches weren't stubborn as *bleep*


Probably gonna win 3-0 and stick with 3-5-2 for another decade

actually he did more then what the formation tells on paper, Lemina is box to box, Hernanes is back to DM and imo with Marchisio out he is the best option we have. Started Rugani and put him in Barzagli place, Dybala and Higuain rotate same can be said about Sandro up there. Tactical changes all over the place.

Most of that is tactical fixes for his own mess.

I could have told you Lemina is a shit DM and Pjanic is wasted deep

We need a plan B, not a slightly revised 3-5-2.

this small fixes are the progress towards new formation, he'll change he is a smart manager.

It seems as though Napoli wants to give gifts to Juve. Unbelievable.

breva wrote:It seems as though Napoli wants to give gifts to Juve. Unbelievable.

Why can't Napoli just fail to win a tough away game without it having something to do with benefiting Juventus?

We really don't need favours, ya'll have been beating yourselves for several seasons now

jibers wrote:Icardi for me is in the tier 1 for #9s. He is too damn clinical. he would get 50+ goals if he played for BBR.

Are you totaalvoetbal?

Luca wrote:

breva wrote:It seems as though Napoli wants to give gifts to Juve. Unbelievable.

Why can't Napoli just fail to win a tough away game without it having something to do with benefiting Juventus?

We really don't need favours, ya'll have been beating yourselves for several seasons now

1. Because it benefitted Juventus.

2. But you got a favor.

breva wrote:

Luca wrote:

breva wrote:It seems as though Napoli wants to give gifts to Juve. Unbelievable.

Why can't Napoli just fail to win a tough away game without it having something to do with benefiting Juventus?

We really don't need favours, ya'll have been beating yourselves for several seasons now

1. Because it benefitted Juventus.  

2. But you got a favor.

We didn't get any favor, we won our game they drew theirs. Going by that logic we gave them a favoe when we lost from Inter O.o

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Problem is he's not much outside the box

He is stopped being "just" a poacher last season. He grew a lot, now he seems like a threat everywhere. At some point it seems like he started believing the fact that he was captain and started acting the part. After that he got a lot more involved in going deeper to help move the ball up wen Inter kept struggling with service through the season.

Plus his finishing is just too much.

DeviAngel wrote:

breva wrote:

Luca wrote:


Why can't Napoli just fail to win a tough away game without it having something to do with benefiting Juventus?

We really don't need favours, ya'll have been beating yourselves for several seasons now

1. Because it benefitted Juventus.  

2. But you got a favor.

We didn't get any favor, we won our game they drew theirs. Going by that logic we gave them a favoe when we lost from Inter O.o

Inter outplayed Juve. Napoli outplayed Genoa.

Thankfully Chievo did us that favour week 1 when they beat Inter, keeps us on top of the table.

Thanks to Pescara and Genoa for favouring us against Napoli and thank Cagliari for the favour against Roma.

If everyone pitches in, we can all make sure, together, that Juventus remain the champions of Italy. I would like thank everyone, even Milan, for doing their part to ensure a sixth scudetto is clinched as soon as possible, so that our wonderful team can begin plans for number seven.

This message is fully endorsed by the holy church of Hernanes.

This post is more reasonable than yours.

breva wrote:

DeviAngel wrote:

breva wrote:

Luca wrote:


Why can't Napoli just fail to win a tough away game without it having something to do with benefiting Juventus?

We really don't need favours, ya'll have been beating yourselves for several seasons now

1. Because it benefitted Juventus.  

2. But you got a favor.

We didn't get any favor, we won our game they drew theirs. Going by that logic we gave them a favoe when we lost from Inter O.o

Inter outplayed Juve. Napoli outplayed Genoa.

So Genoa should have stopped playing and allow Napoli to score just because they controlled the match? Ok then, I'll remember this post if we draw and dominate some team.