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Post by Firenze Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:51 pm

@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Firenze wrote:anyone get into the ultimate team beta then? I'm trying to find info online but there's a NDA, want to see some player ratings that's all ffs


I'll get on later today and pull up some ratings. There's was a big update the other day (another 30 gigs).

What team/player ratings you looking for? On UT or just Kick Off

new Japanese League, just see if there are any decent looking Golds/Silver, shouldn't be too many

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Post by FalcaoPunch Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:54 pm

There are only 4,765 active transfers on UT. The Japanese league when I search these are the only players I find:

Wellington - Silver - 67 ST
Kim Seung Gyu - Gold - 75 GK
Nakagawa - Bronze - 61 ST (90 pace :bow: )
Fujita - Bronze - 55 CB
Shimura- Bronze - 60 GK

Beta just updated so I'm going to give seasons and pro clubs a try.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:40 pm

You noticed any changes in gameplay?

is purpose pass still there?
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Post by FalcaoPunch Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:57 pm

@RealGunner wrote:You noticed any changes in gameplay?

is purpose pass still there?


There are changes in the gameplay I'm just ass when it comes to explaining them.

The biggest changes that I noticed were mentioned with a video here about penalties and corners. Throw ins have been reworked.

I'm such a filthy casual I tend to notice just the most random shit. Like for whatever reason it's too damn easy to nutmeg players. It's get annoying.

Defending on corners is improved. The players will actually mark their man by not randomly jockeying around them.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:14 pm

In casual terms, do you enjoy playing this so far in comparison to fifa16?
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Post by Casciavit Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:58 pm

So, Messi and Ronaldo's stats came out.

The best passer in the world has 86 passing. rofl

Ronaldo's dribbling is in the 90s. rofl

Ronaldo's passing is in the 80s. rofl
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Post by FennecFox7 Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:04 pm

I can do Ronaldo's passing in the 80s. He's actually a good passer nowadays, he really impressed me in the euros with it. But dribbling should be lower. Ball control 94, dribbling 85 is fair
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Post by CBarca Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:03 pm

Ronaldo is rated higher than Messi Laughing

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Post by Thimmy Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:57 pm

@CBarca wrote:Ronaldo is rated higher than Messi Laughing

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It sort of makes sense, considering the OVR in FIFA is based on overall strengths, and I'd argue that C. Ronaldo beats Messi in that regard considering how the game traditionally rates top players + how certain attributes have more impact in the game than they do in real life. The game favors speed, strength and physicality, which in turns benefits him more than Messi. Consistency, efficiency and overall usefulness aren't really useful attributes in FIFA, which is why a super inconsistent player such as Guti used to be a GOAT playmaker in the game.

C. Ronaldo's speed, agility, FK ability, and several other attributes should've been detracted from his OVR a long time ago, but FIFA are known to be hesitant about downgrading top players, even when they're far past their peak. In other words, FIFA generally favors players of C. Ronaldo's mold, moreso than players like Messi. It may not make sense in real life, but it does make sense based on the mechanics and rating system of the game.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:01 pm

Even if they make Messi 99 on fifa, Ronalo is still going to be better than him in the game. Messi is garbage to play with. In the end i used him as a midfielder as he was better there
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:02 pm

Yeah Messi is crap, best attackers are at least 5'10 (With the odd exception like Aguero) with explosive pace and strength. Look at Bale you can legit tackle him clean and heavily 4 times and he'll just push through and brush it off like it never happened.


Messi for me doesn't even have a great first touch.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:48 pm

TOP 50

https://www.easports.com/fifa/fifa-17-player-ratings-top-50?utm_campaign=fifa17_hd_ww_ic_ic_twt_top-50-tw-29-08-16&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=15514&ts=1472856587491

1) Ronaldo
2) Messi
3) Neymar
4) Suarez
5) Neuer
6) Bale
7) Ibra
Cool Boateng (????)
9) Lewandowski
10) De gea
11) Aguero
12) Ozil

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Post by Firenze Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:12 am

Ibra & De Gea ffs

Pogba a tad overrated at 88 Laughing

ratings in general look inflated this year
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Post by Warrior Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:59 am

http://www.futhead.com/17/players/3118/paulo-dybala/

Dybala Shocked Shocked
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:27 am

He will go to 90 easily with an inform card
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:43 am

Shit he's gonna be tasty as f with Higuain up front ahead of him

Been running 2 up top big man on the left, little man on the right combo for a decade and these two will be perfect for that. On the same team and same nationality as well ffs

Might have to play UT on the reg instead of doing it for 2 weeks winning d1 then quitting
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Post by Warrior Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:05 am

Will be, unfortunately, unaffordable until at least november for most of us Neutral

Juve in general will be OP as hell in Fifa 17
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Post by M99 Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:50 am

Finally Mehsi is of the cover and CR can take his rightful place.
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Post by CBarca Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:05 am

I mean I agree that Ronaldo is a better player than Messi with FIFA. Messi has always been underwhelming with FIFA while Ronaldo has consistently been the best.

That being said I think Messi should still have a better OVR even if Ronaldo has the superior skillset for FIFA. I can't say I care much but I think it's funny just because I believe Messi to be better than Ronaldo. However I'm not really going to get into that debate and I'm probably not even going to buy the game anyway day 1
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Post by Thimmy Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:06 am

@M99 wrote:Finally Mehsi is off the cover and CR can take his rightful place among the rest of the tax payers


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Post by Thimmy Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:20 am

@CBarca wrote:I mean I agree that Ronaldo is a better player than Messi with FIFA. Messi has always been underwhelming with FIFA while Ronaldo has consistently been the best.

That being said I think Messi should still have a better OVR even if Ronaldo has the superior skillset for FIFA. I can't say I care much but I think it's funny just because I believe Messi to be better than Ronaldo. However I'm not really going to get into that debate and I'm probably not even going to buy the game anyway day 1


Typically, physically extraordinary players have been the best players in FIFA. It wasn't that long ago when Zlatan was unplayable and had to be nerfed, as a result of an overwhelming amount of players complaining about him. Like I said before, the game usually refers to peak form (age-wise) when rating top players, and past FIFA games have shown that those stats don't seem to drop substantially, even after those players decline to the point of becoming irrelevant to the majority of fans. Peak C. Ronaldo was fast, strong, could dribble past multiple players relatively consistently, and was in my opinion a reliable freekick taker. All of these attributes have dropped drastically since then, but elite players in FIFA just don't decline much, ever. Carvajal was a better player in FIFA 14 than he his in FIFA 16, largely because they made the mistake of making him 6ft tall in the former iteration of the game. EA just aren't reliable when it comes to rating players realistically.
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Post by CBarca Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:56 am

That's fair
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Post by S Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:05 am

Boateng 90 omg rofl
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:49 pm

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Post by CBarca Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:05 pm

Messi with a 61 PHY is also highly suspect. Can't remember the last time I saw him outmuscled on the ball.
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Post by Kaladin Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:07 pm

@CBarca wrote:Messi with a 61 PHY is also highly suspect. Can't remember the last time I saw him outmuscled on the ball.


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