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Post by Neutropin Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:02 pm

Which one was the better keeper
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Post by El Gunner Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:08 pm

Casillas
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Post by rwo power Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:38 am

I prefer Manuel Neuer as he offers an extra dimension with his style of play.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:52 am

Neuer ... Never been a fan of Casillas
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Post by rincon Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:14 am

Neuer

Prime Casillas was great but he was all about reflex saves. Neuer is more complete, better placement in the box, better presence with his defense I think.
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:18 am

Casillas in his prime was literally a one man defense. I don't care about Neuer's sweeper-keeper abilities because as far as goalkeeping goes Iker trumps him in everything bar aerial balls. He was less mistake-prone and a far better big game performer, clutch as hell.
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Post by Donuts Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:24 pm

i remember iker being so clutch vs barca.



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Post by rincon Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:27 pm

To clarify I'm not dissing Casillas. Great GK in his prime. One of the best I've seen. I just rate Neuer a bit higher.

Buffon
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Neuer, Casillas
van der Sar, Cech, etc.

something like that
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Post by titosantill Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:52 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Casillas in his prime was literally a one man defense. I don't care about Neuer's sweeper-keeper abilities because as far as goalkeeping goes Iker trumps him in everything bar aerial balls. He was less mistake-prone and a far better big game performer, clutch as hell.


THIS
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:54 pm

Donuts wrote:i remember iker being so clutch vs barca.



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If it weren't for Iker some of the clasicos from the last decade would have ended in double digits
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:02 pm

Who was the explicit Neuer hater again from our Real supporting friends?

It wasnt you Valk iirc, who was the other poster? Name similar to Unique but I can't remember?

Who had a bizarre Neuer hate similarly to free_cat's De Bruyne hate?
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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:09 pm

I never rated Casillas that highly to be honest; I never really understood why he deserved to be mentioned alongside greats like Buffon, van der Saar, Cech, Kahn or, more recently, Neuer.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:35 pm

It is a close call but I am going with Neuer. As it's been mentioned already he has a bit more to his game.

But Casillas must be rated highly. That is obvious...

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Post by Lucifer Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:36 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Who had a bizarre Neuer hate similarly to free_cat's De Bruyne hate?

Free_cats de bruyne hate is unparalleled, unrivaled and other un words. No one can have hate similar to that. Harmonica's Ronaldo hate being distant second.

Edit: futbol's everyone hate being close third.

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Post by Harmonica Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:10 pm

Casillas.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:32 pm


I have great admiration for Casillas, but I wouldn't swap Neuer for prime Casillas, and neither would Real fans swap prime Casillas for Neuer by the sound of it.

Good, then everyone is happy.
Except for Porto fans, probably.
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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:59 pm

Lucifer wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Who had a bizarre Neuer hate similarly to free_cat's De Bruyne hate?

Free_cats de bruyne hate is unparalleled, unrivaled and other un words. No one can have hate similar to that. Harmonica's Ronaldo hate being distant second.

Edit: futbol's everyone hate being close third.


I do hate Pep and Busquets for no clear reason though, this should merit it's own thread!
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:06 pm

Yeah Viva's Pep hate tops the table IMO
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Post by RealGunner Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:35 pm

Gonna go with Casillas
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:15 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:I never rated Casillas that highly to be honest; I never really understood why he deserved to be mentioned alongside greats like Buffon, van der Saar, Cech, Kahn or, more recently, Neuer.


He was amazing but in fairness his amazing level of play probably happened when Madrid were utterly shite Laughing

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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:25 pm

Here's the thing though.. Casillas's best seasons were way back before now.. so comparing the Casillas of the past few years is pretty unfair if you want to talk about primes. For example, the CL we won with zidane's volley.. Casillas was in goal, and he saved our asses lots of times that game
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Post by farfan Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:36 pm

He wasn't even a regular starter that season and was dropped by Del Bosque due to shit form hmm He actually came off the bench in that match after the regular starter got injured iirc .
The best Casillas was the one we saw in that 2006-2010 period imo.
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Post by DeviAngel Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:03 pm

Buffon Very Happy


Casillas for me, we are talking about goalkeeper. Never been a fan of this new trend 'Sweeper Keeper'. The goalkeeper should be defending the goal not create actions or act as 5th defender kind of thing.

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Post by Thimmy Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:22 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
I have great admiration for Casillas, but I wouldn't swap Neuer for prime Casillas, and neither would Real fans swap prime Casillas for Neuer by the sound of it.

Good, then everyone is happy.
Except for Porto fans, probably.


I honestly don't understand how a neutral who watched Casillas perform during his prime, would rate Neuer ahead of him. Valk summed it up well, he was a one-man-defence, and I struggle to think of another goalie who has been more reliable than prime Casillas. So what, if he relied too much on his reflexes, if it allowed him to perform on a higher level than any of his peers?
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Post by Casciavit Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:32 pm

Casillas in his prime was an AMAZING shot stopper. Definitely better than Neuer in that regard. However, Neuer has more to his game. He's better at reading the play and is better with the ball at his feet.
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