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Post by RealGunner Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:55 pm

Evra is fantastic in terms of positioning. He has never relied on pace. His experience never lets him get embarrassed either even at this age.


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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:59 pm

who knows whether Robben will even play. One more week until the game, plenty of time to get injured.
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Post by dronte Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:40 pm

Who knows whether Evra will play hmm
We are piling up injuries in a faster pace Very Happy

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Post by Valkyrja Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:28 am

What are the expected XIs ?
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Post by Neutropin Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:47 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Neutropin wrote:Juve are a good team I think they stand a better chance that you guys think.


how do you know what we guys think?


was reading some of the recent posts
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Post by rincon Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:45 am

Valkyrja wrote:What are the expected XIs ?

From Juve:

Buffon; Evra, Bonucci, Barzagli, Litchsteiner; Pogba, Marchisio, Khedira; Cuadrado, Dybala, Morata/Zaza

Could very well change though
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Post by Robespierre Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:55 am

It will be a knock-out very balanced,  definitely interesting for a neutral.
Juve at home is a great force,  how many times have they lost in last 50 matches?  Perhaps just that against of Udinese. .
Guardiola teams usually don't give their best in CL away matches  (even tied in Stuttgart or lost in Oporto ) while at the same they destroy at their stadium.
I'd be satisfied if we tie this tbh.
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Post by rincon Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:55 am

Excluding unexpected incidents during the game, I'll be disappointed if we don't win at home. I don't know if we'll win the tie but in Turin we have to. We have 15 in a row and haven't conceded in 8 games. Plus we don't lose in Turin very often.

Bayern is an excellent team but if this isn't the time to be optimistic against them then when is?
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Post by Andrew Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:07 am

rincon wrote:Excluding unexpected incidents during the game, I'll be disappointed if we don't win at home. I don't know if we'll win the tie but in Turin we have to. We have 15 in a row and haven't conceded in 8 games. Plus we don't lose in Turin very often.

Bayern is an excellent team but if this isn't the time to be optimistic against them then when is?

Indeed, unless Bayern scores very early on or like you said something unexpected happens, I expect us to at least even them. We definitely respect Bayern but we are not afraid of them, especially in our home. This isn't the Juventus of 2013, we are way more experienced and flexible now.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:18 am

Neutropin wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Neutropin wrote:Juve are a good team I think they stand a better chance that you guys think.


how do you know what we guys think?


was reading some of the recent posts


the only posts being overly optimistic for Bayern were those of S being a lying jinxing little pussy. Not a word of them was meant seriously.
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Post by Robespierre Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:34 am

So what are Bayern injuries and the expected lineup for the match ?
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Post by Robespierre Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:47 am

Evra would have played  in place of Alex Sandro anyway even if the Brazilian was not injured.
He gives most defensive solidity and it is the reason why Allegri relies on him particularly.
Besides the Evra of last United period looked like finished in Premier League but he gave his best in CL matches.
Basically in  CL the experience is everything.
The only heavy absence for Juve would be Khedira if he doesn ' t get recuperated.
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Post by Neutropin Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:47 pm

Hope Juve take this one cant wait to hear what people have to say about Pep if Bayern get eliminated at this round
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:43 pm

Robespierre wrote:So what are Bayern injuries and the expected lineup for the match ?


a bit too early to tell.
Obvious absences are Boateng, Badstuber, Martinez.

A  couple of people back in training - Benatia, Ribéry.

Of course, Ribéry has played 15 minutes in the last 12 months and Benatia hasn't played a minute since something like November, so it's hard to see them ready for a starting place.

Similarly Tasci, the defender who was brought in as a last straw after Boateng AND Martinez got injured. He has not played a single second for FC Bayern, and he was brought to give relieve in some BL matches.
Can't see him being an option for Juve.

Götze isn't ready to return just yet as far as I know.

I assume the back four will be as it was in previous matches, unless Benatia is thrown in:

Lahm, Kimmich, Alaba, Bernat

Since it's a CL away game, Pep will as usual change his winning formula of fielding 4 strikers with Costa, Lewa, Müller and Robben, in favour of an extra midfielder to slow us down and make us static and vulnerable.

So instead of

Alsonso/Vidal
Robben Müller Thiago Costa
Lewandowski

we'll possibly see
Alonso
Vidal...Thiago
Robben.............Costa
Lewandowski

when it's obvious that the Alonso-Vidal combo is actually painfully sluggish.
Maybe instead of Vidal we'll see Lahm in midfield with Rafinha at RB.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:45 pm

That defense rofl

Juve are definitely favourites IMO.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:55 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:That defense rofl

Juve are definitely favourites IMO.


That's a top class defense right there tbh.
As long as they don't have to defend any such thing like crosses above a certain height, or engage in any sort of defensive challenges.

To put it in jiber's terms, it is a playmaking defense (:
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Post by Robespierre Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:58 pm

Have you really played with this defence in Bundesliga matches ?Laughing
Ready to go on Guardiola bandwagon if Bayern gets this ...
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:04 pm

Robespierre wrote:Have you really played with this defence in Bundesliga matches ?Laughing
Ready to go on Guardiola bandwagon if Bayern gets this ...

We have, and successfully :coffee:

It's not a problem really :coffee:

Not only now, already last August, Martinez and Benatia were injured, Boateng was suspended and Pep played a backline of
Lahm, Alonso, Alaba, Bernat
against Leverkusen. We won 3:0.
Not a problem.
Dante was the only CB fit but Pep didn't play him, instead we sold him to Wolfsburg the next day Laughing :coffee:
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Post by futbol Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:09 pm

Bundesfodder. rofl

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:10 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:That defense rofl

Juve are definitely favourites IMO.


That's a top class defense right there tbh.
As long as they don't have to defend any such thing like crosses above a certain height, or engage in any sort of defensive challenges.

To put it in jiber's terms, it is a playmaking defense (:


So what you are saying is i could play in that back 4 hmm
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:12 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:That defense rofl

Juve are definitely favourites IMO.


That's a top class defense right there tbh.
As long as they don't have to defend any such thing like crosses above a certain height, or engage in any sort of defensive challenges.

To put it in jiber's terms, it is a playmaking defense (:


So what you are saying is i could play in that back 4 hmm


Depends how good you are. Are you a top full back or central midfielder? Then yes.
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Post by Neutropin Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:12 pm


Hapless_Hans wrote:
Robespierre wrote:Have you really played with this defence in Bundesliga matches ?Laughing
Ready to go on Guardiola bandwagon if Bayern gets this ...

We have, and successfully :coffee:

It's not a problem really :coffee:

Not only now, already last August, Martinez and Benatia were injured, Boateng was suspended and Pep played a backline of
Lahm, Alonso, Alaba, Bernat
against Leverkusen. We won 3:0.
Not a problem.
Dante was the only CB fit but Pep didn't play him, instead we sold him to Wolfsburg the next day Laughing :coffee:


The last bayern games I saw were the 2 againts arsenal and you were amazing with possession and passing. I think with the style of play that bayern have you migh be able to  get away with that defence, but if Juve are anywhere near their best I think you will lose this one
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Post by Doc Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:14 pm

Did Bayern really play Alaba as a CB and it has been working...successfully?
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Post by Robespierre Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:14 pm

Even Dzeko scored against Neverkusen , so I don't know if it is credible (:
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:15 pm

Yes, apart from Ingolstadt we haven't met a team of Juve's quality so far this season.

Will be a tough one, and quite possibly the end of the line for us.
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Post by futbol Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:17 pm

Why not? The black ... the ... the ... the Austrian Abidal!

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