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Post by rwo power Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:48 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:In that time span i can only think of maybe McClaren, Moyes, Coleman and now Neville.... that's about it Laughing
Colin Bell. He even managed to win 2015's Champions League with 1.FFC Frankfurt. :coffee:

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Post by farfan Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:51 pm

rwo power wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:In that time span i can only think of maybe McClaren, Moyes, Coleman and now Neville.... that's about it Laughing
Colin Bell. He even managed to win 2015's Champions League with 1.FFC Frankfurt. :coffee:


In what parallel universe did this event occur ? :coffee:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:57 pm

I'm assuming that's the womens game hmm

Which i don't really follow, so i'm obviously very ignorant on the subject.

Good on him though :bow:
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:00 pm

He's an exception though, as he looks so much like a 90s German lesbian he could just be one.
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Post by iftikhar Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:24 pm

S wrote:Is this for real ?

Wow what's wrong with Spanish teams ? I don't understand their fantasy over British coaches.
This

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post by The Franchise Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:40 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:

The real question now, though, is who Sky will bring in to replace him. hmm


Time to admit their mistake and bring back Keyes and Grey tbh
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Post by Myesyats Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:36 pm

Must be a temporary solution, can't imagine him staying for more than till the end of this season!

@Great Leader Sprucenuce

Have to accept you were right in saying it's a matter of time till Neville effs up
Valencia Laughing I thought he can't do that much damage only as an assistant. Nuno was my favourite coach in Spain for gods sake!!
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Post by rwo power Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:39 pm

farfan wrote:
rwo power wrote:Colin Bell. He even managed to win 2015's Champions League with 1.FFC Frankfurt. :coffee:
In what parallel universe did this event occur ?  :coffee:
Mole was 100% right. Smile

"In Colin Bell, whose sweeper system was key to stifling Paris's attacking thrust, Frankfurt have the first Englishman to coach a winning team in any UEFA Champions League for men or women."
http://www.uefa.com/womenschampionsleague/history/season=2015/index.html

BTW, I just stumbled over the fact that Colin Bell decided to step down as Frankfurt's coach yesterday: http://www.uefa.com/womenschampionsleague/news/newsid=2312905.html#bell+leaves+european+champions+frankfurt o_O
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Post by McAgger Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:55 pm

Wow really surprised by this decision. Hated him as a player but I've grown to like Gary for his punditry. He's better than the rest of the dross pundits in England, however that doesn't necessarily mean he's intelligent or anything.

Should be interesting.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:01 pm

linetty wrote:Must be a temporary solution, can't imagine him staying for more than till the end of this season!

@Great Leader Sprucenuce

Have to accept you were right in saying it's a matter of time till Neville effs up
Valencia Laughing I thought he can't do that much damage only as an assistant. Nuno was my favourite coach in Spain for gods sake!!


Laughing

I have to admit i was saying it because 1. he's a boring POS who knows *bleep* all 2. He was replacing our current assistant Laughing ( although him doing badly for us isn't really his fault)

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Post by The Franchise Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:18 pm

Gary analyses games after the fact very well, that is a tremendous skill in itself and very related to coaching. He will surely be able to figure out what went wrong, where systems are failing, where spaces are appearing, why chances arent being created and so on.

But that is after the fact. You have to deliver the message to the players well and importantly grow your own ideas which fit the team and then have the ways for the players to understand whatever your idea is.

That is a total mystery and we dont know what he is capable of with that aspect. Does he have ideas which fit the players? Can he put together the kind of training methods which teach the players that?

Thats before even getting into the core aspects.

Can he see how a game is wrong in the moment and adjust it then and there?
How well does he know his opponents?

How long will it take him to truly understand the limits and strengths of his players?

How will he adjust to the different standard of officiating?

Will the players respect him and gave their best efforts?

Many more I cant even think of right now.

You have these questions with any coach, but normally you have some previous history to get an idea from.

I will be interesting however long it does last.
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Post by M99 Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:42 pm

This will be interesting to say the least...
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Post by Art Morte Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:00 pm

I heard Fabio Capello will replace him on Sky.

"This team can go forward. All the team, the coaches, their mind is free. We can go forward without fear, without everything."
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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:24 pm

RIP SKY UK : (

Art Morte wrote:I heard Fabio Capello will replace him on Sky.

"This team can go forward. All the team, the coaches, their mind is free. We can go forward without fear, without everything."

RIP AGAIN : (
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:11 pm

Nooooooooooooooooooo who the flying *bleep* will replace him as a regular pundit now he's the only one I can listen to

Can't wait for some absolute premhead pleb who knows nothing unless the conversation is about 4-4-2 to take over and ruin everything.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:35 pm

Interesting and out of the blue. Hoping he does well but we'll see
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:45 pm

At first I thought the article mixed up Phil and Gary Neville
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Post by M99 Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:13 pm

Firenze wrote:smart tbh, I imagine this voids his Sky Sports contract, does this for 5 months, steps down at the end of the season then joins GOAT BT

Neville the tactical genius :bow:


Neville and Owen at BT should be GOAT banter.
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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:59 pm

Capello was on Sky Italy. He is awful. I took away the audio when he was the commentator for la Liga . Good luck.
I believe the worst downgrade since Micheal Schumacher was replaced with Mika Salo.
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Post by Lord Awesome Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:46 am

Well, it's completely out of the blue and risky. Honestly never heard Gary's punditry but really it doesn't matter. What might be intriguing is the idea that British players might be brought in during the winter mercato, as some people call it. Hopefully he brings to tough DM's or CB's.

Bottom Line: Won't judge till' I see.
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Post by Art Morte Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:40 am

Robespierre wrote:Capello was on Sky Italy. He is awful. I took away the audio when he was the commentator for la Liga . Good luck.
I believe the worst downgrade since Micheal Schumacher was replaced with Mika Salo.


I was joking, Robes eco smile
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Post by Robespierre Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:46 am

^ Considering he does exactly this job , but for the Italian Sky, it was really credible.
Good for you and less for me : (
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Post by futbol Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:46 pm

At worst it's a great marketing move for La Liga. Every Manchester United fan will have Valencia as their 2nd club now. Laughing

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Post by RealGunner Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:08 pm

It's Gary Neville, not Eric Cantona.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:12 pm

So now that the news is a day old and a bit settled down, I can't get over the fact what a crazy, reckless and bizarre move that is from Valencia's standpoint.

I mean this is one of Europe's biggest clubs we're talking about Laughing

Hiring a complete newbie that has never managed any club, let alone played or worked in Spain, doesn't speak the language, and again, has never managed anywhere?
Just because the owner did business with him and the brother was (quite obviously unsuccessfully) assistant manager?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:14 pm

RealGunner wrote:It's Gary Neville, not Eric Cantona.


Laughing
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