Re: Would Benzema be considered world class if he wasn't a Real Madrid player?

by sportsczy Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 0:01

Benz is a Tau imo.

by BarrileteCosmico Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 0:14

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Maybe because Messi plays on the wing

Are we going to ignore the past 5 years? Laughing

by Unique Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 0:15

Mr Nick09 wrote:This is how i go about this, because at the end of the day you can only rate players by what they have achieved and how they perform, and not what could have been

Tier 1- Suarez,
because on top of proving he can be successful in a league campaign, he adapted, and he rekt teams in CL

Tier 2- Benzema, Kun
Kun is great but he plays for a shitty team that wont allow him to progress further in CL. Benzema is very consistent, and eventhough he gets injured in the last month of every season, he plays well in important games (except vs Atletico).

Tier 3 - Ibra, Lewy, Cavani
Ibra is on a declining slope, was always shit in CL, doesnt even care to move nowadays... Lewy needs to finish a little better to move up. Same for Cavani.

Tier 4 - Rooney, Costa, Tevez, Higuain....

anyway, yes, benzema is currently Top 3

rooney

by Myesyats Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 0:17

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Maybe because Messi plays on the wing

This year for the first time since 2009

by McAgger Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 0:18

Cavani being on the same tier as Ibra and Lewa Laughing

by Adit Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 9:07

The difference between him and Suarez,Aguero is an important thing. Benzema has far better link up play than both of them, in fact his main strength is that. While Suarez and Aguero eats him alive in dribbling ability.Benzema has little ability to beat his man completely,which is definitely a important characteristics for a striker. You can see those solo goals scored by Suarez and Aguero, they are unpredictable. I wouldnt fancy Benzema winning a 1 on 1 with a top defender.

by Valkyrja Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 9:40

Suarez, Benzema and Aguero are the best atm. similar level, depends on what you want from a striker. Lewandowski, Ibra and Rooney behind them. Rooney is underrated here tbh

by S Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 9:47

Only Suarez and Agüero are better than him right now.

Which means he's elite standard.

Lewandowski is incredibly overrated by some people here.Top player but I don't consider him as an elite CF as of now.

by Hapless_Hans Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 9:48

how is this thread still not locked?

by S Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 10:02

Pretty garbage list by Nick btw.

What's up with the tier nonsense ?

Costa and Tevez are two tiers below Benzema now ? Seriously that sounds incredibly funny.

You can't distinguish them on the basis of tiers really.There are like 3 or 4 players in the game who perform at a level of their own, then come the next group of players where the difference between them isn't that big but still can perform at a top level.

by rwo power Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 10:25

Hapless_Hans wrote:how is this thread still not locked?

Because I can always merge it with the other Benz thread when I feel like it. Mod power!

by Thimmy Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 16:47

Unique wrote:good player. but has played for a team that dominate and win 90% of its games. that does help.

Are you talking about Real Madrid? After the turn of the year, their average performance level as a team was so poor that I wouldn't have been surprised if they had lost against my local team, Strømsgodset. They may have won the majority of their games, and they may have a tendency to dominate opponent teams in general, but they sure as hell weren't dominant in most of last season's games. Just sayin' Smile

by Curtinho Mon 10 Aug 2015 - 16:52

Mr Nick09 wrote:This is how i go about this, because at the end of the day you can only rate players by what they have achieved and how they perform, and not what could have been

Tier 1- Suarez,

Tier 2- Lewandowski, Kun

Tier 3 - Ibra, Benzema, Cavani

Tier 4 - Rooney, Costa, Tevez, Higuain....

anyway, yes, benzema is currently Top 3

Fixed.

by Hapless_Hans Wed 9 Sep 2015 - 10:28

I won't stand for more obsessive Benzema posting occurring in this forum without my thread getting any of it.

That's why I ask - with the recent NT performances in mind (which I neither saw nor care about) has Benzema regressed from beta to gamma or worse?

Is it genetic? Or does he need to move clubs?

by Hapless_Hans Wed 9 Sep 2015 - 10:30

Hapless_Hans wrote:btw, the player spelt out backwards by the initials of the thread title's letters is more alpha than Dmzema imo

by El Gunner Wed 9 Sep 2015 - 10:31

Curtinho wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:This is how i go about this, because at the end of the day you can only rate players by what they have achieved and how they perform, and not what could have been

Tier 1- Suarez,

Tier 2- Lewandowski, Kun

Tier 3 - Ibra, Benzema, Cavani

Tier 4 - Rooney, Costa, Tevez, Higuain....

anyway, yes, benzema is currently Top 3

Fixed.

Lewa tier 2
Kun not tier 1 with Luiseato rofl

Benz and Cavani on the same tier as Zlatan

by Hapless_Hans Wed 9 Sep 2015 - 10:35

tbh every time I read this 'tier 1', 'tier 3' nonsense, I have that voice from quake 3 arena in my head rofl

"Impressive.. Excellent...HUMILIATION"

by futbol Wed 9 Sep 2015 - 18:15

Hapless_Hans wrote:I won't stand for more obsessive Benzema posting occurring in this forum without my thread getting any of it.

That's why I ask - with the recent NT performances in mind (which I neither saw nor care about) has Benzema regressed from beta to gamma or worse?

Is it genetic? Or does he need to move clubs?

That's what you call a bump? Pls. Watch how real pros do it.

by Hapless_Hans Thu 17 Sep 2015 - 18:07

ffs now even Farfan wants in on the Benzema posting frenzy.

Can't let that happen while watching idly.

by Hapless_Hans Thu 17 Sep 2015 - 18:13

Let's be honest, if Real hadn't snatched him up in his youth he'd now be probably sitting on Chelsea's or City's bench after having scored 14 goals a season for Newcastle.

By now, the only thing making him a 'star' is the radiance of the Real Madrid brand and the global appeal of his teammates.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu 17 Sep 2015 - 18:24

Hans mad that he's better than Lewa tbh.

by farfan Thu 17 Sep 2015 - 18:35

Hapless_Hans wrote:Let's be honest, if Real hadn't snatched him up in his youth he'd now be probably sitting on Chelsea's or City's bench after having scored 14 goals a season for Newcastle.

.

yeah , because Remy and Benzema were somehow equals in Lyon . Laughing

by Hapless_Hans Thu 17 Sep 2015 - 18:43

didn't even know Remy had been at Lyon rofl

Even better.

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