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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:57 pm

@Tomwin Lannister wrote:rofl


Hans is probably right, but I need a 2nd opinion on the matter from Dr Moal


Hans analysis is incomplete IMO, after further investigation it tells us that Whoscored.com is a cyber dating service used to bring Messi's stats and his lovers together.


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Post by jibers Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:06 pm

Despite Messi being the best player in 2014 WC and Zidane doing nothing for France apparently in WC 98, People will remember Zidane scoring 2 World cup final goals and Messi missing a one on one with Neuer and most importantly, being a NT flop.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:25 pm

I'm not even kidding.

Everytime someone is overly emphasizing 'rationality', a psychoanalytical approach is a good shout, as according to psychoanalysis obsessive rationalism or objectivism as a worldview is basically nothing but a form of male hysteria.

Obviously we need to dig deeper. Has to do something with his parents too, the fixation on Messi and stats.

Maybe his father was of short growth and got a hard time from his local pub football teammates for it.
Maybe a big fuzz was made in his early childhood whether little baby harmonica did a 'number one' or 'number two' in his pampers, and how many times a day he managed which number.

And of course, since he veritably fetishizes stats, we could use a Freudian theory of the fetish.
Here the fixation of the fetish occurs in the moment of surprise and shock of seeing one's mother's genitals, and then quickly having to look away.
The fetishized object then would be constituted by where the kid's gaze wanders next, AFTER seeing his mother's bush.
If the kid looks down, it's a foot fetish.
If the mother is wearing nylon stockings, voila there you go.

In harmonica's case, I'd say his mother had an affair with the children's opthalmologist.
He once got tired of being left alone in the waiting room and started to search for his mother, found her naked already in the practise room, and then looked away to the wall onto one of those big tables with those different sized numbers hmm
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Post by jibers Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:52 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:I'm not even kidding.

Everytime someone is overly emphasizing 'rationality', a psychoanalytical approach is a good shout, as according to psychoanalysis obsessive rationalism or objectivism as a worldview is basically nothing but a form of male hysteria.

Obviously we need to dig deeper. Has to do something with his parents too, the fixation on Messi and stats.

Maybe his father was of short growth and got a hard time from his local pub football teammates for it.
Maybe a big fuzz was made in his early childhood whether little baby harmonica did a 'number one' or 'number two' in his pampers, and how many times a day he managed which number.

And of course, since he veritably fetishizes stats, we could use a Freudian theory of the fetish.
Here the fixation of the fetish occurs in the moment of surprise and shock of seeing one's mother's genitals, and then quickly having to look away.
The fetishized object then would be constituted by where the kid's gaze wanders next, AFTER seeing his mother's bush.
If the kid looks down, it's a foot fetish.
If the mother is wearing nylon stockings, voila there you go.

In harmonica's case, I'd say his mother had an affair with the children's opthalmologist.
He once got tired of being left alone in the waiting room and started to search for his mother, found her naked already in the practise room, and then looked away to the wall onto one of those big tables with those different sized numbers hmm


Harmonica Hans just called your mother a slut and your father a cuckold. You going to take that?

Pls respawn.
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Post by Kaladin Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:55 pm

I doubt Messi cares tbh
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:58 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:I doubt Messi cares tbh


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Post by Harmonica Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:27 pm

@M99 wrote:So according to you Sammer was not important at all for Germany? Why don't you add tackles/balls won so it's fair for players who contributed to defence?
That's exactly why I left them out, because he was important in defending.
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Post by jibers Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:54 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
@M99 wrote:So according to you Sammer was not important at all for Germany? Why don't you add tackles/balls won so it's fair for players who contributed to defence?
That's exactly why I left them out, because he was important in defending.


Harmonica won't you respond to Hans insulting your parents?
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Post by Harmonica Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:06 pm

@jibers wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@M99 wrote:So according to you Sammer was not important at all for Germany? Why don't you add tackles/balls won so it's fair for players who contributed to defence?
That's exactly why I left them out, because he was important in defending.


Harmonica won't you respond to Hans insulting your parents?
A lion doesn't concern himself with the opinion of a sheep.
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Post by izzy Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:15 pm

Oh boy..... this is some sad stuff.

Wow. How did we get here?
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Post by Curtinho Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:30 pm

I really don't think it's necessary to stoop to personal insults on the time. This forum is pretty bad for them.
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Post by jibers Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:32 pm

Harmonica serious question. Do you Thiago Messi has Messi's potential?
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Post by Ganso Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:10 pm

this thread is killing me rofl
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:58 pm

El Cujo wrote:I really don't think it's necessary to stoop to personal insults on the time. This forum is pretty bad for them.


There's not a single personal insult in this thread tbf
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Post by Bankz Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:36 pm

Ronaldo = MVP, TWO TIME Top scorer (5 goals each), 10 goals in 2 competitons, 5 assists, scored in all finals and big games, (including some of the best football final ever from a CA player), and most importantly, he's  A TWO TIME CA CHAMPION. Infact by the age of 23 in 99 ronaldo basically decided to stop participating in the CA and confederations cup. Razz
Adriano = CHAMPION, top scorer, MVP
Robinho = CHAMPION, top scorer, MVP
Suarez = CHAMPION
Rivaldo = CHAMPION
francescoli = CHAMPION
goycochea = CHAMPION
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Chokessi meanwhile......
Zilch goals in CA knock out stages,
2 goals in 17 CA games, (1 goal every 8 games)
Zilch medals in 3 trys,
Zilch goals in 2 finals,
Zilch goals from open play in the last 13 CA games
Zilch success Proud
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Post by Harmonica Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:06 pm

Added Riquelme and Messi CA07.

Copa America non-MVP

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CA07 Riquelme (arg) 13 (5 + 3 + 5) out of 16 team goals = 81% importance, runner-up
CA07 Messi (arg) 8 (2 + 3 + 3) out of 16 team goals = 50% importance, runner-up (Best Young Player)
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Post by Kaladin Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:35 pm

This meme never gets old lmao

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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:35 pm

Added Van Basten Euro88 and Platini Euro84.

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Euro88 Van Basten (ned) 7 (5 + 2 + 0) out of 8 team goals = 88% importance, champion
Euro84 Platini (fra) 11 (9 + 1 + 1) out of 14 team goals =  79% importance, champion
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:50 pm

Messi's CA better than Platini's Euro. 100% importance > 79% importance.
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Post by titosantill Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:05 pm

its also better than van basten's forget that goal in the final....it doesn't add up to more than 88% "importance" (whatever that means). i know its individual, but it also trumps the overall team effort of the greeks in 04...100%"importance" (whatever that means) > winning
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Post by Harmonica Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:51 am

Added G.Müller Euro72. I'm thinking if qualifying should be added before the format change, but I don't think it's viable because the level of the teams involved. Maybe do it separately if there's enough material.

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Euro72 G.Müller (ger) 4 (4 + 0 + 0) out of 5 team goals = 80% importance, champion
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Post by Harmonica Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:11 pm

Added Bonhof and D.Müller Euro76. Didn't find standout player from Czechoslovakia.

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Euro76 Bonhof 4 (0 + 4 + 0) out of 6 team goals = 67% importance (+1 SO goal), runner-up
Euro76 D.Müller 4 (4 + 0 + 0) out of 6 team goals = 67% importance, runner-up
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Post by Perucho21 Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:37 pm

Here's another good stat

Teofilo Cubillas- 1 copa America
Lionel Messi- 0 copa americas

hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:27 am

Add Schmeichel and Larsen Euro92, they were the highest rated players of Denmark, possibly also B.Laudrup.

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Euro92 Schmeichel (den) goalie, champions
Euro92 Larsen (den) 3 (3 + 0 + 0) out of 6 team goals = 50% importance (+1 SO goal), champions
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:39 am

@Harmonica wrote:Add Schmeichel and Larsen Euro92, they were the highest rated players of Denmark, possibly also B.Laudrup.

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Euro92 Schmeichel (den) goalie, champions
Euro92 Larsen (den) 3 (3 + 0 + 0) out of 6 team goals = 50% importance (+1 SO goal), champions


Brian was by far Denmark's best attacking player Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:12 am

@Valkyrja wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Add Schmeichel and Larsen Euro92, they were the highest rated players of Denmark, possibly also B.Laudrup.

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)

Euro92 Schmeichel (den) goalie, champions
Euro92 Larsen (den) 3 (3 + 0 + 0) out of 6 team goals = 50% importance (+1 SO goal), champions


Brian was by far Denmark's best attacking player Laughing
Why?
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